Bee Heller and Debbie Martin love all things people and culture. Join them as they lean into their nerdy nature and go on a journey of discovery through the academic research that sits behind the work they do everyday. We hope you learn as much listening to the podcast as they did making it.
For the first time ever we invite GUESTS into our curious conversation. Sarah Murray, Founder Director at edge Urban Design, and Alice Todd, Cofounder & Managing Director at SwimQuest Swimming Holidays, join us for our final episode in this series on the human side of change. They share their real life experience of leading their teams through periods of change – both externally and internally driven. We loved discussing their practical wisdom and the lessons they've learned along the way.
29 Oct 2026
When individual and group change collide
Debbie talks us through her research on the mechanics of individual change – habits, triggers, motivation. Bee contrasts this with what she's read about changing group behaviour – social norms, reaching a tipping point, peer influence, network effects. And together they reflect on the interplay between the two approaches and key takeaways for people trying to drive change in organisations – where to start and how to navigate the complexity.
22 Oct 2026
When change keeps coming
Continuous disruption, managing change fatigue, building adaptability as a skill rather than managing discrete change events... in this conversation we try to move on from doom mongering to exploring the skills we can build and rely on to thrive in a world of constant change.
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