An author, a psychotherapist, and an entrepreneur walked into a bar. What came out is Dead Frog in the Driveway, a podcast that celebrates our potential as creative beings. No matter who you are. No matter what you might believe. No matter what you’ve been told. If you’ve ever wrestled with a blank page, a stuck idea, or a shifting sense of purpose, we hope you’ll find some inspiration from this podcast.
Our show is co-hosted by Joni B. Cole (www.jonibcole.com (https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jonibcole.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7CHelmut.W.Baer%40dartmouth.edu%7Cd72907d82335470b639808dddc5c9c05%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638909012502835655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ysRy4Ce0g9eZx0uPXLxtspgWaBgLv7IDtVaxAjIMneM%3D&reserved=0)); Pat Williams, and Drew Rockwell, who still believes his Dead Frog in the Driveway story deserved a much better grade.
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Producer: Helmut Baer
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We find out what really happened, discuss giving and receiving feedback, and how it fuels the creative process.
27 Jul 2026
Episode 11 - The Magic of Revision
The revision process. It's a thing of beauty, but also agony, if we don't know how to approach this multifaceted task in a palatable and productive manner. In this episode our hosts offer insights into how to overcome the overwhelm of revision, draft by draft by draft...
13 Jul 2026
Episode 10 - The Art of Staying Curious
In this episode, Joni, Drew and Pat dive into curiosity as the engine behind creativity. They explore how asking “what if?” and “I wonder why?” can deepen character, spark new ideas, and help us move through creative blocks — while also looking at how fear, perfectionism, and the need for certainty can shut curiosity down. Their discussion includes personal experience and practical ways to stay open, curious, and creatively alive.
29 Jun 2026
Fearless and Funny--Behind the Curtain with Comic Storyteller Cindy Pierce
Joni chats one-to-one with comic storyteller extraordinaire Cindy Pierce, whose solo shows find the humor and humanity in life's rawest (and sometimes raunchiest) circumstances. Known for her fearless solo performances, Cindy shares her thoughts on how we all can practice and grow our creative courage on paper, on the stage, and in life. https://cindypierce.squarespace.com/
15 Jun 2026
Episode 9 - The Hidden Aspects of Creativity
Pat, Joni and Drew shine a light on less visible aspects of creativity and appreciate how central they are to the process!
1 Jun 2026
Episode 8 - "I'm no good at plotting."
Of all the insecurities writers confront, this is one of the most vexing. But is it true? Or are these writers looking at plotting the wrong way? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni offer insights into how plotting can (and should) be a process of discovery; how your characters can help you figure out what happens next; and how there comes a time when it is critical you impose structure on your story...but maybe that time is later than you think.
18 May 2026
Episode 7 - Why now? In times of angst, what is the role of creativity?
What happens when fear hijacks our creative flow? In this episode, Joni, Drew, and Pat unpack how our nervous system shapes creativity—from openness to shutdown—and how perfectionism can be a body’s way of staying safe. With insights from Polyvagal Theory and simple tools like breath, movement, and community, they explore how awareness can turn fear from a block into fuel for making art.
4 May 2026
Can creativity help you know yourself better? - Ed Romanoff Interview
In this episode, Pat goes one-on-one with Ed Romanoff, an award-winning singer-songwriter, corporate storyteller, and the founder of PineRock, a global brand communications company based in New York City. Listen in as they discuss creative timetables, the risks creators face, and how sometimes our stories tell us things we didn’t even know about ourselves. https://www.edromanoff.com/
20 Apr 2026
Episode 6 - Do People Age out of Creativity?
Rumor has it, the older we get, the less creative we become? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni challenge this cultural narrative with plenty of stories and experiences that prove otherwise. They also offer insights into how best to tap into your creativity, whether you’re going on nine or ninety.
6 Apr 2026
Episode 5 - Getting unstuck. What to do when your creativity has left the building?
Who hasn't? Drew, Pat, and Joni unpack what it means to be stuck, why it happens, and offer navigation tips for those moments when the creative police come knocking. Discover why moving plants found its way into the conversation, and find other hacks to help us all keep going.
23 Mar 2026
Episode 4 - Why craft vis-à-vis the creative process can be so vexing.
Pat, Drew, and Joni talk about one of Joni’s favorite topics…craft. What role does craft play in the creative process? When does knowing and applying craft serve? When does it get in the way? Here’s hoping this episode will have you looking at narrative craft (or the craft of any creative pursuit) in a whole new (and inviting) way.
9 Mar 2026
Marek Bennett - Moving between the moments
Drew is joined by New Hampshire-based cartoonist, musician, and educator Marek Bennett. They explore the creative process, narrative arc, Kindergarteners, and the power of a simple question: "What's next?"
23 Feb 2026
Episode 3 - Why creativity now?
Because creating—especially when it feels hardest—is how we embrace hope and resist despair. Drew, Pat, and Joni reflect on art as protest, play, and the quiet work of staying alive to the world.
9 Feb 2026
Episode 2 - Aren’t we supposed to be suffering artists?
Find out what happens when Pat is confronted with a do-it-yourself dresser with 4000 pieces. Pat, Drew, and Joni explore the tortured artist, moments of frustration, and discover dependable joy in practice or process.
26 Jan 2026
Episode 1 - So you think you’re not creative. Think again.
Why do so many people deny their creativity? Drew, Pat, and Joni try to tease out this mystery. Plus, they take themselves by surprise by their own answers to the question: What is one of the most creative things you’ve ever done?
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