Car dealers know how to work hard and play hard. Former NFL linebacker and AHX’s VP of Sales, Frank Zombo, and All-American guy and AHX Sales Director, Jake Berkal, chat with experts and dealers about how they spend their time outside of the office.
VINCUE President Danny Zaslavsky: On Pain, Purpose, & Building A Disruptive Company
Danny Zaslavsky has one of the most honest origin stories we've had on the show. The co-founder and President of VINCUE grew up as an immigrant kid passed around between his parents' and grandparents' jobs in Kansas City, spent his childhood in his dad's car lot, and then watched everything fall apart in the same year — losing his first partner to suicide and his father's ability to speak to a stroke. What came out of it was a quote he still lives by: pain pushes, vision pulls. He talks about what it took to get from that moment to co-founding one of the most talked-about companies in automotive tech, why he tells everyone building something to protect their clarity above everything else, and what it looks like to scale yourself before you try to scale a company. Plus Porsches, Singer Vehicle Design, gardening with his kids, and why he's buying cameras so he can leave his phone in the car.
11 Aug 2026
Two-Time Pro Bowler TJ Lang: On Aaron Rodgers, the O-Line, & Home in Detroit
Former Green Bay Packer and Detroit Lion TJ Lang joins Jake and Frank for one of the best origin stories we've had on the show.
TJ breaks down the 10-minute training camp decision at Eastern Michigan that wasn't even his to make — and somehow launched an eight-year career blocking for Aaron Rodgers, two Pro Bowl selections, and a homecoming to Detroit he'd been planning all along.
Plus: what Rodgers is actually like, the O-line brotherhood, a jet ski that showed up uninvited, and why football might be the one sport you can figure out late if you're willing to put the work in.
15 Jun 2026
Stanley Cup Champion Craig Wolanin: On Grit, Growth, and Life in the NHL
In this episode of Dealer Out of Office, hosts Jacob Berkal and Frank Zombo are joined by Stanley Cup Champion and former NHL defenseman Craig Wolanin. Drafted 3rd overall in 1985, Wolanin shares a candid look at his unconventional journey from the frozen ponds of Michigan to the height of professional hockey.
The conversation dives deep into the mental and physical grit required for a long-term career in the NHL, the impact of mentorship, and the evolution of the game. Now a youth hockey coach, Wolanin also shares his philosophy on player development, emphasizing the importance of being a multi-sport athlete and prioritizing "will over skill".
Key Topics Discussed:
The Unconventional Path: Why Wolanin quit hockey at age 15 to play baseball and how a high school coach's decision led him back to the ice.
Life as a Young Pro: Making the jump to the NHL at 18 and living with a billet family in New Jersey led by a local judge who became a lifelong mentor.
NHL’s Physical Era: Stories from the "clutching and grabbing" days, including a memorable (and nose-breaking) encounter with Clark Gillies.
The Move to Colorado: Transitioning with the Quebec Nordiques to Denver and the unique experience of winning the Stanley Cup in the Avalanche’s inaugural season.
Modern Coaching Wisdom: Advice for parents of young athletes on avoiding burnout, the value of the "late bloomer," and why character always beats talent.
1 Jun 2026
The Detroit Watch Guy — John Shiha on Rolex, Watchmaking & Building a Career at Lucido Fine Jewelry
John Shiha didn't grow up planning to become one of Michigan's most respected watchmakers. He started at 14 — cleaning cigarette burns off the showcases of a mall jewelry store after his grandfather made him work 13-hour days just to take the job. From there, it was the last high school watch repair program in North America, one of the youngest acceptances ever to the Rolex watchmaking school in Lititz, Pennsylvania, and a cold call to Vince Lucido that turned into a handshake deal and a career.
In this episode, Jake Berkal and Frank Zombo sit down with John, now General Manager at Lucido Fine Jewelry, for a wide-ranging conversation on the craft, the business, and the culture of luxury watches. We cover what actually happens during a full Rolex service, why Rolex is designed to be worked on a decade later, the philosophy that you don't own a Patek Philippe — you take care of it for the next generation, why fakes are a hard pass, and how to start a meaningful collection at any price point. Plus John's takeaways from Watches & Wonders: the Rolex 100-year Jubilee dial, Gerald Charles' perpetual calendar, and the value play happening at Grand Seiko.
If you've ever wondered what makes a $500 Seiko worth keeping for 50 years, why 904L stainless steel matters, or how an authorized dealer relationship actually works — this one's for you.
Big thanks to John for coming on. Visit the team at Lucido Fine Jewelry — Sterling Heights, Rochester, Birmingham, and beyond. www.lucidojewelry.com
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20 Apr 2026
What It Really Takes To Be An NFL Sports Agent with Joe Flanagan
What does it take to make it as an NFL sports agent? In this episode of Dealer Out of Office, Joe Flanagan pulls back the curtain on the NFL Draft process, undrafted free agency strategy, NIL's impact on college recruiting, and the real economics of representing professional athletes. Plus, the untold story of how Frank Zombo beat the odds as an undrafted free agent and won a Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers.
Episode links:
Connect with Joe Flanagan: jflan@btisports.com
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31 Mar 2026
Buccaneers, Birdies, and Breathalyzers with Ryan Succop
In this episode of Dealer OOO, hosts Jake and Frank welcome Ryan Succop, Super Bowl champion kicker and former NFL standout. Ryan shares his unexpected journey from multi-sport athlete to professional kicker — including the injury that nearly derailed his draft prospects and how he pushed through to reach the highest level of the game. He and the guys talk about what it was like playing alongside Tom Brady, the lessons in teamwork and professionalism that stuck with him long after the final whistle, and how that mindset carries over into life after football. These days, Ryan is channeling that same competitive drive into golf, competing on a professional athlete tour, and getting back to his roots with hunting and the brotherhood that comes with it. A great conversation about life, competition, and what comes next.
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2 Feb 2026
Fitness essentials, the truth about fasting, and habits that keep you healthy with Brett Billings, F-NP
In this episode of Dealer OOO, hosts Jake and Frank welcome Brett Billings, F-NP, a family nurse practitioner and men's health expert. They discuss the importance of fitness, nutrition, and sleep— especially for busy men in their 30s to 60s. Brett shares insights on how to prioritize health amidst a hectic lifestyle, the significance of sleep for recovery, and the role of nutrition in overall well-being. They also chat about topics like intermittent fasting, testosterone levels, and the potential benefits of peptides and TRT. The episode focuses less on quick fixes and more on sustainable, holistic habits that stand the test of time.
Episode links:
Connect with Brett (https://risehealthdpc.com/about-us/)
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20 Jan 2026
Testosterone, nutrition, and health myths we get wrong with Allie Donnell, PA-C
In this episode of Dealer OOO, Jake and Frank are joined by Allie Donnell, a physician assistant specializing in functional medicine.
Allie breaks down some of today’s biggest health trends—from Ozempic to peptides—and things get personal as she walks through Jake and Frank’s bloodwork, explaining what’s worth paying attention to, what’s not, and how to optimize your health based on the data. From supplements and lifestyle changes to debunking common health myths, this episode is a deep dive into what actually moves the needle when it comes to health and wellness.
Episode links:
Connect with Allie (https://minnowwellness.com/team)
The peptide handbook (https://www.amazon.ca/Peptide-Handbook-Professionals-Guide-Therapeutics/dp/B0BZF75X8N )
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6 Jan 2026
Questioning everything and raising nine kids with Glenn Lundy
In this conversation, Glenn Lundy, founder and CEO of 800% Elite Automotive Club, shares his journey from struggling in the automotive industry to founding a dealership community focused on personal and professional growth. He discusses overcoming doubt, the importance of daily habits, and his unique parenting philosophy. Glenn’s M/O is to question everything, so we delve into conspiracy theories, including the shape of the earth, 9/11, and the role of government narratives.
Episode links:
Connect with Glenn on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/glennlundy/)
Learn more about 800% Elite Automotive Club (https://join.800eliteautoclub.com/)
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22 Dec 2025
Chasing the NFL dream, life on the Chiefs, and hunting season with James Winchester
In this episode, we sit down with James Winchester, long snapper for the Kansas City Chiefs. James shares his journey from a small-town kid in Oklahoma to becoming a three-time Super Bowl champion. He opens up about his unconventional path to the NFL — from college football to oil and gas and back to the game — and the role that hard work, perseverance, and timing played in achieving his dream.
James and Frank reminisce about memorable off-the-field moments, giving listeners insight into the camaraderie and relationships built within the team. Beyond football, James discusses his passion for hunting and wildlife conservation, and how he enjoys sharing those experiences with his family.
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4 Dec 2025
Navy SEAL training, near-death experience, and FBI service post 9/11 with Errol Doebler
In the inaugural episode of Dealer OOO, hosts Jacob Berkal and Frank Zombo welcome Errol Doebler, a former Navy SEAL and FBI agent, to discuss his remarkable journey from military service to leadership coach. Errol shares insights into the rigorous training and mental toughness required to become a Navy SEAL, including his experiences during Hell Week. He reflects on how 9/11 spurred his decision to apply to the FBI and the transition from Navy SEAL to FBI Special Agent. The conversation also touches on personal development, family life, and Errol's current work with the Ice Cold Leader program, which focuses on leadership and emotional awareness.
Episode links:
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