Decentralizing AI with Jesse & Dustin
Claim This Podcastby Jesse Posner, Dustin Dannenhauer
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<p>Digging into the ideas shaping the next era of AI, and how they intersect with decentralization, self-sovereignty, and empowerment of the individual. </p> <p>Each episode, Jesse Posner and Dustin Dannenhauer, PhD explore the frontier of AI with topics such as open-source vs. proprietary models, world models vs. LLMs, autonomous agents, AI self-custody, vibe coding, bitcoin, Nostr, consciousness, and who actually owns the stack.</p> <p>Vora co-founder Jesse focuses on AI self-custody, applying bitcoin’s self-sovereignty ethos to artificial intelligence. Dustin runs Delegance AI, a research lab focused on world models, planning, and agent orchestration. Both have spent more than a decade in AI and believe the most important AI story isn’t centralization but the quieter parallel movement using AI to accelerate decentralization and give power back to the individual.</p>
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July 5, 2026
Fable 5 and the Shift Beyond Models: Data, Harnesses, and Local AI
<p>0:00 - Opening </p> <p>0:50 - HSMs for agentic payments & the security tradeoff in personal AI </p> <p>8:36 - The fragility of cloud security </p> <p>11:43 - Vora's compartmentalized architecture for personal AI </p> <p>14:50 - Why Fable 5 feels nerfed </p> <p>20:13 - Fable 5 isn't a big deal because intelligence is no longer the bottleneck (data & harnesses are) </p> <p>23:38 - Local models are getting useful: Hermes Agent, Qwen 3.6, and LLM wikis </p> <p>28:18 - Why fast local inference with DeepSeek v4 Flash changes things </p> <p>35:00 - Better workflows (i.e., HumanLayer AI IDE) beats more agents </p> <p>40:40 - Planning systems for AI coding </p> <p>52:00 - Fable 5 and model ceilings/diminishing returns </p> <p>55:00 - Personal data as an AI moat </p> <p>1:00:43 - Intelligence = search efficiency </p> <p>1:08:30 - Why harnesses matter more than models </p> <p>1:13:30 - Reasoning versus stored knowledge </p> <p>1:21:10 - Why AI is so good at coding </p> <p>1:28:13 - Export controls and AI gatekeeping </p> <p>1:41:55 - Decentralization as civilizational infrastructure </p> <p>1:56:30 - Practical steps toward AI sovereignty </p> <p>2:04:20 - Using AI to dumb vs strengthen yourself </p> <p>2:07:40 - Human verification in the age of cheap answers </p> <p>Everyone is focused on Fable 5, but what if the model wars are becoming a distraction? Jesse and Dustin discuss why the next phase of AI is probably less about raw model intelligence and more by data, harnesses, local hardware, memory, workflows, and control. The future may belong not just to the most powerful model, but the systems and stack around it. </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Delegance at <a href="http://delegance.ai">delegance.ai</a> </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Vora at <a href="http://vora.io">vora.io</a></p>
June 28, 2026
The Local AI Boom and the Coming AI Underclass | 0xSero
<p>0:00 0xSero intro </p> <p>3:00 Finding the best models for your machine (<a href="http://local.ai">local.ai</a>) </p> <p>7:29 Why choosing local models is so hard </p> <p>12:15 Specs that mislead users </p> <p>14:15 Memory bandwidth is the real bottleneck </p> <p>16:26 Qwen on cheap consumer hardware </p> <p>18:13 Gemma, Strix Halo, and faster local models </p> <p>20:00 How diffusion models could change speed </p> <p>21:55 Fable 5 as a turning point & AI export controls </p> <p>26:57 What powerful models actually threaten </p> <p>33:57 Should powerful models stay open? </p> <p>39:20 When AI helps attackers and defenders </p> <p>46:32 'AI safety' in the social media age </p> <p>53:50 Why local AI becomes personal survival gear </p> <p>1:03:30 The economic case for local AI</p> <p>0xSero joins Jesse and Dustin to discuss the local AI hardware boom, why running models at home is still so confusing, and how open-weight AI, personal agents, and sovereign intelligence could shape the future. </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Delegance at <a href="http://delegance.ai">delegance.ai</a> </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Vora at <a href="http://vora.io">vora.io</a></p>
June 21, 2026
What New AI Models Keep Revealing: Multi-Agent Workflows, Context Limits & the End of One-Model AI
<p>0:00 - Opus 4.8 agent workflows </p> <p>7:02 - Ultracode and long coding workflows </p> <p>17:05 - Why AI gets stuck in bad patterns </p> <p>24:12 - What makes AI an actual collaborator </p> <p>31:33 - Why specialization will beat one big model </p> <p>36:14 - The real debate behind AI jobs </p> <p>43:21 - The abundance case for AI </p> <p>47:31 - The political roots of AI fear </p> <p>59:37 - The new human premium & what AI reveals about human value </p> <p>1:03:57 - The case for decentralized AI </p> <p>1:11:29 - How AI helps rethink desire & make better choices </p> <p>1:16:23 - Struggle unlocks human potential </p> <p>Jesse and Dustin explore how Opus 4.8 and new agent workflows are changing the way people build with AI, then zoom out to the bigger questions: why AI should push back, why the future may be many specialized models, and the growing importance of decentralized AI. </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Delegance at <a href="http://delegance.ai">delegance.ai</a> </p> <p>🌐Learn more about Vora at <a href="http://vora.io">vora.io</a></p>
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<p>Digging into the ideas shaping the next era of AI, and how they intersect with decentralization, self-sovereignty, and empowerment of the individual. </p> <p>Each episode, Jesse Posner and Dustin Dannenhauer, PhD explore the frontier of AI with topics such as open-source vs. proprietary models, world models vs. LLMs, autonomous agents, AI self-custody, vibe coding, bitcoin, Nostr, consciousness, and who actually owns the stack.</p> <p>Vora co-founder Jesse focuses on AI self-custody, applying bitcoin’s self-sovereignty ethos to artificial intelligence. Dustin runs Delegance AI, a research lab focused on world models, planning, and agent orchestration. Both have spent more than a decade in AI and believe the most important AI story isn’t centralization but the quieter parallel movement using AI to accelerate decentralization and give power back to the individual.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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