
Dechert 4 Real
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<p>4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance. Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way. <br><br>© 2026 Dechert LLP. All rights reserved. This information should not be considered as legal opinions on specific facts or as a substitute for legal counsel. It is provided by Dechert LLP as a general informational service and may be considered attorney advertising in some jurisdictions.</p>
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Recent Episodes

June 30, 2026
Turning Over a New Leaf: A Decade Well Planted With CREFC's Lisa Pendergast
Host Jon Gaynor and producer Stewart McQueen interview CREFC President and CEO Lisa Pendergast about the CREFC Annual Conference's key themes and the industry's future.

April 23, 2026
Shifting Gears: The Forces Driving Insurance Risk in Commercial Real Estate
What if the insurance program you thought was protecting your deal is actually what's putting it at risk? In this episode of our 4 Real podcast, hosts Jon Gaynor, Sam Gilbert and Kate Mylod sit down with Emily Rasmussen, President and COO of Resilience Insurance Analytics, to break down what lenders, borrowers and attorneys need to know about property insurance in commercial real estate today. The hosts also explore the Basel III endgame re-proposal, and take a turn down memory lane to discus...

March 26, 2026
Calling Balls and Strikes: Batting it Around with Moody’s Dan Rubock
In this episode of Dechert 4 Real, hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert welcome Moody’s Ratings’ SVP and former Dechert lawyer Dan Rubock to the podcast for an in-depth look at his career shaping how the agency evaluates the legal architecture of CMBS deals. They also go extra innings on insurance risk, data centers, Canadian CMBS and AI, and share some favorite sports memories.
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- What is Dechert 4 Real?
<p>4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance. Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way. <br><br>© 2026 Dechert LLP. All rights reserved. This information should not be considered as legal opinions on specific facts or as a substitute for legal counsel. It is provided by Dechert LLP as a general informational service and may be considered attorney advertising in some jurisdictions.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates bi-weekly.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
This podcast is available on 8 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
No, this podcast does not typically feature guests.
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