Welcome to Deen & Deals, the podcast where values meet ventures. Hosts Futhhallah Hamed and Mohammed Kiswani dive into real conversations on sales, business, and living with purpose. From enterprise deals to side hustles, faith, and family, they share wins, losses, and lessons learned. Expect unfiltered stories, practical insights, and guests who prove success and sincerity can coexist. Perfect for builders, sellers, and dreamers chasing something bigger without selling out.
Assalamu Alaykum!We are back on the mic together for the first time in a while, and we are kicking things off with one of the most important topics for any Muslim in sales: tawakkul.Sales might be the ultimate tawakkul job. You start every month at zero on your quota, and whether the right buyer picks up the phone is never fully in your hands. We open with a du'a attributed to Umar ibn Abdul-Aziz (rahimahullah) about being content with Allah's decree, then dig into the balance every seller has to strike: tie your camel by researching, preparing, and showing up, then let go of what you can't control.We get into taking credit versus taking accountability, why most people like the idea of success more than the work, the power of small and consistent habits, and keeping your biggest ambitions pointed at the Akhirah.Plus, this episode marks one year of Deen and Deals! Stay tuned, because something new is coming soon, with a chance to join live calls with us!Timestamps:00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y) Welcome Back Update00:47 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=47s) Tawakkul Du'a Reminder02:07 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=127s) Sales as Tawakkul Test03:08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=188s&pp=0gcJCWMAwfN6Pr3D) Control vs Outcomes05:28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=328s) Preparation and Interviews07:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=445s) Humility and Accountability09:02 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=542s) Life Lessons in Rejection11:22 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=682s) BDR to AE Story15:14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=914s&pp=0gcJCWMAwfN6Pr3D) Daily Inputs and Discipline20:11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=1211s) Keep Going and Recap22:42 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=1362s) Akhirah Focus Mindset24:04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=1444s) Podcast Milestone Announcement25:01 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTtcuQts_Y&t=1501s) Closing Salaam
22 Sept 2026
When to Pay for a Mentor | Amen Elbaba Part 3 | Ep. 41
Assalamu Alaykum!
This one's personal. Futhallah sits down for the third time with his own mentor, Amen Elbaba, and traces the FaceTime call that changed his career, the one that came right after a Salesforce rejection left him questioning everything. From there, the two dig into what mentorship actually means, starting with its roots in Islam: the Prophet Muhammad's relationship with Jibril, the hadith "Ad-dīn an-nāsīḥa" (religion is sincere advice), and how Imam Abu Hanifa credited two years with Ja'far as-Sadiq for shaping his entire legacy.
From there, the conversation gets practical. They talk about how to actually find a mentor today, how to set boundaries so the relationship doesn't turn one sided, why mentees have to put in the work instead of just showing up to vent, and how to handle a mentee (or a mentor) who overstays their welcome.
They close on the question everyone eventually asks: is it ever worth paying for mentorship? Amen and Futhallah break down the due diligence, the opportunity cost math, and why the real return isn't the money, it's the years you skip having to learn the hard way.
00:54 Why Mentorship Matters
03:24 Mentorship in Islam
06:18 Finding Mentors Today
11:46 Setting Clear Boundaries
13:46 Mentee Effort and Execution
17:33 Handling Overreach Respectfully
21:16 When to Pay for Mentorship
30:56 Parting Advice and Pay It Forward
33:40 Closing and Thanks
Deen and Deals on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0TmLGVfHqu3uG8TZyNtPcT (https://open.spotify.com/show/0TmLGVfHqu3uG8TZyNtPcT)
Deen and Deals on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deen-deals/id1847344968 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deen-deals/id1847344968)
Mohammed Kiswani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammedkiswani/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammedkiswani/)
Futhallah Hamed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/futhallah-hamed/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/futhallah-hamed/)
Amen Elbaba on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amenelbaba/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amenelbaba/)
21 Sept 2026
Sales Isn't a Career, It's a Lifestyle | Amen Elbaba Part 2 | Ep. 39
Assalamu Alaykum!
Amen Elbaba is back for round two, and this time he's bringing a hot take that reframes the entire sales career: it's not really a profession, it's a lifestyle. He and Mohammed dig into the soft skills that actually separate top sellers, persistence, curiosity, and above all, active listening, and why those same skills end up showing up in your friendships, your marriage, and how you raise your kids. Amen breaks down what active listening really looks like on a discovery call (hint: it starts with repeating back what you heard before you assume you understood it), and why he treats every intro call as a high stakes call. They also get into the code switching sales guys do without realizing it, why "there are no rules" in sales as long as you're not disrespectful, and Amen's take on whether great sellers are born or made through his work at TechSteps, where he helps people break into tech sales. Mohammed and Amen also tease a new project they're building together for the Muslim tech sales community, so keep an eye out for that announcement soon.
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome Back Intro
01:25 Traits Of Top Sellers
03:03 Skills Beyond Work
06:00 Sales Guy Stereotype
08:25 Speak Their Language
11:13 Active Listening Deep Dive
13:21 Discovery Call Strategy
16:57 Can Anyone Learn Sales
21:36 Sales Has No Rules
24:26 Proactive Seller Mindset
26:44 How To Break In
28:33 Collab Sneak Peek Outro
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Deen and Deals:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0TmLGVfHqu3uG8TZyNtPcT (https://open.spotify.com/show/0TmLGVfHqu3uG8TZyNtPcT)
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deen-deals/id1847344968 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deen-deals/id1847344968)
Hosts:
Mohammed Kiswani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammedkiswani/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammedkiswani/)
Futhallah Hamed: https://www.linkedin.com/in/futhallah-hamed/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/futhallah-hamed/)
Guest, Amen Elbaba:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amenelbaba/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amenelbaba/)
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