Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish. Either way, we’re talking about the stuff that matters — or at least makes you laugh.
Deep Ish, hosted by Jake Law, goes beyond what people do to explore who they are, how they became who they are, and what they’re building now.
Unfiltered conversations. Unexpected rabbit holes. Real stories. Big questions. The occasional overshare.
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In this episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with former Alabama wide receiver & college football national champion, Mac Hereford. Mac spent his childhood dreaming about playing football at Alabama. Mac and Jake go far beyond football. They talk about the cost of chasing a dream, the danger of letting accomplishments become your identity, competition, faith, family, failure, finding your next dream, and learning to fall in love with the process instead of just the destination.Mac opens up about what it was like to transition away from Alabama football, why he refuses to let his biggest accomplishment become the entirety of who he is, and why he believes you can do everything right and still not get the outcome you wanted.Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.Presented by GrnHaus Media
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29 Sept 2026
Christian Parker | They Call It Luck After You Make It
In this week's episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with country singer songwriter Christan Parker.We talk about the strange intersection between law and creativity, how becoming a lawyer actually changed the way Christian thinks, and what happens when that analytical brain collides with songwriting.Christian also opens up about moving to Nashville, building an independent music career, being told by producers that he wasn’t worth their time, and hearing the words, “come back when you’re bigger.”Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.Presented by GrnHaus Media
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22 Sept 2026
Clay Barker | I Just Had To Figure It Out
This week on Deep Ish, Clay Barker joins Jake to talk about his unconventional path into music — from playing drums in Christian metal bands and nearly pursuing physical therapy school to becoming a Nashville songwriter and country artist.Clay opens up about moving to Nashville, navigating the uncertainty of COVID, learning how to write alongside hit songwriters, and the years it took to find a sound that actually felt like him.They also get into the realities of chasing a creative career, the role of talent, luck, and timing, why persistence matters, and the difference between pursuing fame and building a life you're proud of.Plus, a conversation about country music, songwriting, Clay's upcoming music, and what success really looks like ten years from now.Sometimes it's deep, sometimes it's just ish.Presented by GrnHaus MediaFollow Clay: https://claybarkerofficial.com/https://www.instagram.com/claybarker_musichttps://youtube.com/@claybarkerofficialhttps://tiktok.com/@claybarkerofficialhttps://www.facebook.com/claybarkerofficialhttps://x.com/claybarkermusicFollow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/deep.ishpodcastFollow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw
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