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<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">两位跨性别者主播，有时和ta们的朋友们。</p>
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March 30, 2026
跨性别现身日安康｜六年了，我们的 PhD 呢？
<p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">BEFORE THE SHOW</p><span></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>大家好，欢迎来到「等下！」播客，我是莫来石。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><span>这是第七个我们一起庆祝的跨性别现身日。</span></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">这一年你还好吗？侥幸地说，我现在的生活像是站在前半生的波折中，最后的一道浪尖上。拍拍我自己的后背，也拍拍你的（拍），这段时间辛苦啦，在这一期节目的时间里，希望我们都可以轻松一会。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">这期节目散漫地走过许多话题，我们聊了聊在异乡的感受，也分享了在地的生活，分享了对于「出柜」和「现身」的新感想。也再一次不能免俗地，在这样的周年时刻又忍不住开始回顾过往，但我忽然发现，不知从什么时候起，现身日于我而言的意义已经更加关乎「我们和听众朋友的一年一会」，而不再是作暴雨淋头状对着世界深渊呐喊。当然还是有做后者的冲动，只不过这已经成为了前者顺带的事。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">深渊可以顺道来听听我与朋友的相逢。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">而你，我的朋友，我给你很深很深的祝愿。</p><span><br></span><span></span><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">TIMELINE</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>00:33 六年过去了，我们的 PhD 呢？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:23 莫来石的 GEM：在 AI 面前 Pass 了（不过这真的值得高兴吗）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>04:13 莫来石 GDM：来米粒尖什么都没做就成了最被讨厌的人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>10:43 莫来石感到今年的现身日的意义是一种共勉</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>21:02 Eddy 感到健身给他带来了一些比较新的新体验</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>23:26 Eddy 和伴侣一起去了俄罗斯，踏入没有性少数的平行世界</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>36:01 Eddy：这个我就讲给你听下不适合放进正片 </span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>38:18 莫来石：大家一起听吧咱们也没说谁的坏话</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>39:04 恐同恐跨并非空中阁楼</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>41:45 一种可能会被收回的生活</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>42:30 完美的盟友是没办法一开始就存在的</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>44:02 祝大家现身日安康</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>46:39 莫来石主要想现身给跨性别朋友们看</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>47:16 Eddy 认为现身是很个人的选择</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>49:03 对莫来石而已现身日的新意义是「等下！」播客的传统</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>52:49 虽然在很多年前用一纸檄文通告天下地出柜了，现在我们重新思考出柜这件事</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>59:48 Eddy 感到了微小互动的价值，「多做一点」可以给日常带来真实的改变</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>66:52 莫来石现身日当天要和美国医生现身一下</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>69:09 她也觉得没法说哪里好哪里不好，只有想去的地方、想在一起的人和想要的生活</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>71:40 Eddy 还是愿意相信重要的是去选择善良</span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">REFERENCE</p><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a414-audiofreehighqps/EB/DB/GAqh9sANoMvFAAW8sASCTekG.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a414-audiofreehighqps/EB/DB/GAqh9sANoMvFAAW8sASCTekG.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a414-audiofreehighqps/EB/DB/GAqh9sANoMvFAAW8sASCTekG.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000.3909304143862" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a414-audiofreehighqps/EB/DB/GAqh9sANoMvFAAW8sASCTekG.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.73964034401877"><br><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>波士顿最近的天气明媚得让人有些生气</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="backup"><span><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/16bd-audiofreehighqps/A5/A8/GKwRIUENoMvYAAF9PwSCTe4_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/16bd-audiofreehighqps/A5/A8/GKwRIUENoMvYAAF9PwSCTe4_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/16bd-audiofreehighqps/A5/A8/GKwRIUENoMvYAAF9PwSCTe4_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1001.5625" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/16bd-audiofreehighqps/A5/A8/GKwRIUENoMvYAAF9PwSCTe4_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.95833333333334"><br></span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>本期 Show Note 写于盯盘期间</span></p><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><span></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>写在最后：</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>有朋友在我们不更新的期间写邮件来对我们的人身安全表示担忧，在此，谢谢大家的关注！以及我们一切都好。也在这里释出主播的社交媒体账号，欢迎大家通过这一渠道了解我们的近况，与我们互动。</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>莫来石的微博账号：@抗高温耐火菩提心</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>Eddy 的微博账号：@艾迪量子</span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup">如果你有想要我们认真讨论的话题，或者愿意分享的任何感想，欢迎发送邮件到</p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><b>wait1min@protonmail.com</b>，也请转发支持我们，感谢收听！</p><span><br></span><span><br></span><br>
February 21, 2026
突然到了给家人买礼物的年纪
<p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">BEFORE THE SHOW</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>大家好，欢迎来到「等下！」播客，我是莫来石。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><span><b>新年快乐！</b></span></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">这期节目我们从给家人准备的礼物聊起，说到了成长历程里的苦痛，也分享了最近那些，像坚冰融解出第一粒水珠一样的，与家人共度的轻柔时刻，最终依然不能免俗地，发表了一些关于家人这个概念的小见解。无论是在哪座城市、哪段天光，希望它能给你带来一些轻松的瞬间，能陪你慢慢走一段。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>没有想到这期节目竟然会在如此应景的春节期间上线，喜欢这样冥冥中温柔呼应的时刻。也许春节对你而言并不轻松，和血缘的亲人相处对你来说会很难受，但请谅解我一向来对节庆与仪式的喜爱，借着这个时机，祝福你。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>祝你无病无灾，祝你轻松愉快。</span></p><br><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">TIMELINE</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>02:50 今日快递（竟然）几乎都是给家人的礼物</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>04:20 伴侣是非二元性别者的话，对方家长应该算公婆还是岳父母</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:06 讨好父母的礼物点子（求靓广）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>15:00 亲缘称谓不止关乎性别，也隐含家庭角色的期待</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>25:30 有些家人仿佛是性别相关词汇都有点烫嘴</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>32:31 「我们母女俩自卖自夸」</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>35:27 「她的剩饭以前都是我的工作，以后就交给你了」</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>40:53 我不想扮演她的小剧场里任何一个角色，也不想让她觉得我的选择和她有太大关系</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>55:20 还是想说，家人不一定原生，原生也不一定就是家人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>57:02 以及，有自选家人，原生家人也不一定非要落选</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>58:36 家是支持与滋养的地方</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>66:50 不主动不拒绝不负责，这个原则似乎很适用原生家庭关系</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>68:28 我不是有一段不属于我的过去，而是有着不被允许做我自己的经历</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>72:16 跨性别者与焚毁的旧照片</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>75:58 「真正的家人在道之外」</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>81:01 家人是交相辉映的双向选择</span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">REFERENCE</p><span><br></span><span><br></span><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/868b-audiofreehighqps/29/7F/GAqh4zINcAPvABKz_wRuPGoU.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/868b-audiofreehighqps/29/7F/GAqh4zINcAPvABKz_wRuPGoU.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/868b-audiofreehighqps/29/7F/GAqh4zINcAPvABKz_wRuPGoU.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1024.0046838407493" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/868b-audiofreehighqps/29/7F/GAqh4zINcAPvABKz_wRuPGoU.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="191.14754098360655"><br><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>焦安溥 2025 年春节贺信</span></p><br><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;" data-flag="backup"><span><b>写在最后：</b></span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>有朋友在我们不更新的期间写邮件来对我们的人身安全表示担忧，在此，谢谢大家的关注！以及我们一切都好。也在这里释出主播的社交媒体账号，欢迎大家通过这一渠道了解我们的近况，与我们互动。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>莫来石的微博账号：@抗高温耐火菩提心</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>Eddy 的微博账号：@艾迪量子</span></p><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup">如果你有想要我们认真讨论的话题，或者愿意分享的任何感想，欢迎发送邮件到</p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup">wait1min@protonmail.com，也请转发支持我们，感谢收听！</p><span><br></span><span><br></span>
November 3, 2025
一天早上，有两群人踹开我的家门，把我放在餐桌上并辩论了起来
<p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">BEFORE THE SHOW</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>大家好，欢迎来到「等下！」播客，我是莫来石。</span></p><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期节目录制于 J.K. Rowling 与 Emma Watson 的冲突事件前后，相信这对跨性别者朋友们而言，绝非一段轻松的时间。而我们选择在这时才发布，一方面当然是因为本播客更新速度从来不快，另一方面也是因为，我们不愿意被别人的议程牵动自己的生活。所以这期节目也并不是一种「应战」，并不是对抗、争论，而是把我们的声音也放在公共场域，一次旧常识的再次重申，和两位跨性别者个体的一些牢骚。</span></p><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="normal"><span>我知道这个世界现在有很大的恶意客观存在着，但我认为它看起来巨大也是来自现代传媒系统的鼓吹，我也相信狭隘、局限的仇恨是风过无痕的噪音，请不要让它们抵达你的心，因为你的存在和你的生命，比这一切都更有意义。</span></p><br><span><br></span><span><br></span><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;font-weight:900;" data-flag="subtitle">TIMELINE</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:32 性别这件事似乎在和ta人相处时才会滋生麻烦</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:07 在租房</span><span>这一复合型性别麻烦时刻 Eddy 变得格外礼貌友好</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>14:52 性别称谓不是一件无</span><span>关紧要的小事，它涉及到谁对我的生命持有解释权</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>18:33 但总不能为了舒服而一直独处吧</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>20:34</span> <span>J.K. Rowling 与 Emma Watson 引发的互联网互喷事件让莫来石感到自己的生命被当作了辩题</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>25:45 Eddy 第一眼看见 J.K. Rowling 的文章感到心冷，他觉得 J.K. Rowling 擅长使用嘲讽，是冷笑着说“这人真该被扔石头”，但不亲自扔石头的那种人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>29:10 莫来石认为恐跨来自不了解，但恐跨文化会让人们越来越难看见跨性别者的现身</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>33:13 跨性别者不是现代新文化的“产物”，始终有不符合二元性别常规的人类，只是每个时代的称谓和态度不尽相同</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>34:23 莫来石认为“跨性别者是否真的存在”是个没必要的辩题，值得讨论的是“作为社会我们该如何对待跨性别者”</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>35:15 Eddy 认为这不是辩论，而是有人一早踹开他的门来讲述自己的观点还期待他回应</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>38:13 Eddy 认为 J.K. Rowling 声称自己因言获罪是偷换概念，用资金资助保守党派修订法条，是行为的范畴</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>39:25 Disclaimer: 我们不想用这期节目“应战”，只想发点牢骚，至少把我们的声音也放在这里</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>40:38 莫来石认为这很像一大早有两群人踹开她的家门并把她放在餐桌上并辩论了起来</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>42:10 作为助人工作者，Eddy 认为关于跨性别者的讨论始终关于“到底是不是男/女性”，但至于更具体的边缘化处境却没有人提及</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>45:45 莫来石的不吐不快</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>50:34 “不理解但尊重”，OK；Eddy 更怕“我一定要努力理解你”，却用自己的经验来解读他</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>56:46 Eddy 认为 J.K. Rowling 因为内化厌女而质疑过自己的性别身份的体验也许是真实的，但这不代表跨性别男孩们的体验就不真实了</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>60:04 Eddy 现在对此类浮在空中的辩论更脱敏了，他觉得加固自己的安全堡垒很重要</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>66:32 “我不是朝圣者，我是大黄蜂”是莫来石想要面对这样的事情乃至这个世界的方式</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>69:13 Eddy </span><span>觉得做自己感到乐趣的事很重要，别委屈自己，也很感谢愿意坚持发声的朋友们</span></p><span><br></span><span><br></span><p style="font-size:17px;line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;color:#333333;" data-flag="subtitle"><b>REFERENCE</b></p><span><br></span><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/cc44-audiofreehighqps/2D/74/GKwRIJEM3e-3AALSlAQvJLyo.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/cc44-audiofreehighqps/2D/74/GKwRIJEM3e-3AALSlAQvJLyo.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/cc44-audiofreehighqps/2D/74/GKwRIJEM3e-3AALSlAQvJLyo.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="501.6556291390728" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/cc44-audiofreehighqps/2D/74/GKwRIJEM3e-3AALSlAQvJLyo.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.64238410596026"><br><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>"我不是朝圣者。我是大黄蜂，我来到您的土地并非己愿。" ——《空洞骑士：丝之歌》</span></p><span><br></span><span><br></span><p data-flag="backup" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span><span><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/38a8-audiofreehighqps/68/71/GAqh9sAM3e_XAAjSVwQvJMuU.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/38a8-audiofreehighqps/68/71/GAqh9sAM3e_XAAjSVwQvJMuU.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/38a8-audiofreehighqps/68/71/GAqh9sAM3e_XAAjSVwQvJMuU.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.8" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/38a8-audiofreehighqps/68/71/GAqh9sAM3e_XAAjSVwQvJMuU.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.736"><br></span></span></p><span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span><span>当下的我们很能与</span>被莫名其妙地卷入纺都争端的大黄蜂</span></p><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;" data-flag="backup"><span><b>写在最后</b></span><span>：</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>有朋友在我们不更新的期间写邮件来对我们的人身安全表示担忧，在此，谢谢大家的关注！以及我们一切都好。也在这里释出主播的社交媒体账号，欢迎大家通过这一渠道了解我们的近况，与我们互动。</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>莫来石的微博账号：@抗高温耐火菩提心</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><span>Eddy 的微博账号：@艾迪量子</span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup">如果你有想要我们认真讨论的话题，或者愿意分享的任何感想，欢迎发送邮件到</p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">wait1min@protonmail.com</strong>，也请转发支持我们，感谢收听！</p><span><br></span></span><span><br><br></span><span><br><br></span>
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