In each episode of Desert Island Risks, we talk to industry leaders in the real assets space to hear about the risks and rewards behind their success. Whether setting up their own business, taking a chance on the market or backing people over numbers, we explore the lessons learned throughout our guest's careers. Unlike our namesake, we don't play any music to accompany each interview, instead sharing sound clips from friends, colleagues and confidants of our speakers who were impacted along the way.
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In a change from our usual podcast format – today, Emily revisits her conversation with Richard Croft, Executive Chairman and founder of M7 Real Estate, three years’ on from their original conversation over zoom, during the Covid pandemic. This time, we hear from Richard about M7’s recent deal with Oxford Properties, discuss his departure from the business’ executive leadership team and dig deeper into his thoughts on leadership, futureproofing a business and putting your best foot first when approaching investment opportunities. We also hear from Richard’s backers and friends on the unique impact he has had on the industry, as well as revisiting a few old gems from the Desert Island Risk vaults – of course we couldn’t miss the opportunity to return to the infamous story of “The Marble” …!
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10 Feb 2023
Joanne McNamara
In our tenth episode, Emily meets Joanne McNamara, Head of Europe at Oxford Properties. Having joined Oxford in 2010 as an Investment Analyst (and as one of the first of three employees in the team) Jo rose through the ranks as Oxford grew its AUM to $10bn and its headcount to 40 people. She played a central role in Oxford’s merger with M7 Real Estate in 2021 and was awarded PERE industry figure of the year in the deals aftermath. In this episode, we learn Joanne’s thoughts on what it takes to step up as a leader in business, how to approach risks and challenges with thoughtfulness and respect, and why more offices should take up team sports (or just Netball, according to Jo!). We also hear from Joanne’s business partners, mentors, family and longstanding friends on why she stands out from the rest, Jo’s ability to back herself through challenging times and how she has found balance between business leadership and family.
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23 Dec 2021
James Thornton
In our ninth podcast episode, Emily talks to James Thornton, former CEO and current Non-Executive Chairman of Mayfair Capital. After 20 years working on the advisory side with Jones Lang Wooton and Savills, James took the leap in setting up Mayfair Capital with his former JLW colleague, Guy Brogden, in 2002. Since then, he has helped the business to invest hundreds of millions of pounds of capital, culminating in the sale of Mayfair to Swiss Life in 2016. In this episode, we hear from James on the challenges of setting up your own business, how to deal with unexpected market changes, albeit a war, global pandemic, financial crisis or Brexit, the secret to building trust with your investors and why the people behind the real estate still matter so much. We also hear from James’ family, friends and former colleagues on why he has stood out in the market, his unflappable attitude in a crisis and his secret penchant for soppy films!
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19 Nov 2021
Mark Robinson
In our eighth podcast episode, Emily meets Mark Robinson, co-founder of Ellandi, the UK’s leading owner-operator of retail and town centre spaces. He is an award-winning entrepreneur and one of the market’s leading advocates for placemaking and community creation. Mark’s success has been recognised through a number of accolades including being chosen as President of Revo and his Government appointment as Chair of the High Street Task Force in 2020. Having begun his career in retail 28 years ago, Mark took the leap in founding his own platform in 2008. He recounts how he set up his business in the wake of the financial crisis, the initial struggles and how they built a successful company with diversity, inclusion, community and sustainability at its forefront. On a more personal level Mark, tells us about his recent life changing experience, and how it has transformed (for the better) his approach to life, the business and taking risks. We will also hear from friends and colleagues of Mark who share their stories including his co-founder of Ellandi Morgan Garfield, COO Alysoun Stewart and Matthew Weiner.
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19 Aug 2021
Jos Short
Our seventh episode sees Emily meet Jos Short, Co-Founder of Internos (now part of Principal Global Investors) and an active board member of firms including Big Yellow, Great Portland Estates and Annington. Having set up his business in the wake of the GFC, Jos shares his insights on taking responsibility as an executive, adapting your business to the times and finding the best way to futureproof your company against a changing and challenging market – something that has only become more prevalent as we exit the Covid pandemic. We also hear from Jos’s friends and colleagues who share their favourite stories of the man, whether taking risks in the board room or driving round East Berlin in a vintage Trabant!
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15 Jan 2021
Helen Gordon
In our sixth episode, Emily meets Helen Gordon, CEO of Grainger, the largest, listed residential landlord in the UK. No stranger to adversity, Helen has navigated some of the toughest crises to hit the real estate industry to date, including running RBS’ Global Asset Management team in the wake of the global financial crisis and managing the sale of Railtrack’s real estate assets following the collapse and government takeover of the British Railway system in 2001. Helen shares her views on the best way to tackle trying situations, how to maximise and cultivate skills within a team and, infamous for her excellent sense of humour, how to stay positive in a crisis. A strong advocate for equal opportunities and diversity, Helen also gives her insight on how to encourage a more inclusive industry where those from all backgrounds are given the training and confidence to grow. We additionally hear from family, friends and colleagues of Helen who have watched her challenge the status-quo and rise to the many challenges throughout her career.
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4 Dec 2020
Ian Marcus
In our fifth episode of Desert Island Risks, we meet Ian Marcus, powerhouse of the advisory world and arguably one of real estate's best-connected individuals. Ian has spent almost 40 years working across banking and real estate, redefining the value of independent advisors in the industry. It’s no surprise that earlier this year he was awarded an OBE in the Queen’s birthday honours list in recognition of his outstanding contribution to real estate and the economy as a whole. A past President of the British Property Federation, Chairman of the Bank of England Property Forum and advisor to some of real estate’s greats including Redevco, Eastdil Secured and the Crown Estate, Ian gives priceless insight on how to navigate a competitive and challenging market whether a service provider or investor. We also hear from Ian’s friends and colleagues, who share their first-hand experience of Ian transforming their businesses and the industry, as well as sharing some moving anecdotes proving that if you back the people behind the assets, your impact can be immense.
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13 Aug 2020
Roger Orf
In our fourth podcast episode, we meet Roger Orf, Partner & Vice-Chairman of Apollo Global Management’s European Principal Finance and Real Estate businesses. Born and raised on a Missouri farm, Roger was the first in his family to attend university - a risk he credits as one of the most important of his career - before kickstarting his rise through the real estate world and joining the first American pioneers on their venture into Europe. In this podcast, Roger talks about the value of human relationships, why investing in your education is so important and, a veteran of both the tech and global financial crises, how to weather multiple economic downturns and use them as an opportunity to have impact. We also hear from Roger's, colleagues, friends and family who have stood by him in and outside the boardroom, and at the Arsenal, of course!
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19 Jun 2020
Richard Croft
In our third episode, Emily “meets" Richard Croft, founder and Executive Chairman of M7 Real Estate. Despite strict lockdown measures, Bohill Partners spent a morning with Richard over video call to hear the story behind the making of two real estate businesses, one formed in the midst of the financial crisis and now arguably one of the most successful pan-European players in the market today. Learn about the best (and worst!) ways to win over investors, how success can come from the most unlikely of places and why valuing those you work with is the most important thing of all. During the podcast, we hear from Richard's colleagues, friends and backers who have supported, challenged and trusted him along the way.
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31 May 2020
Keith Breslauer
This week we meet Keith Breslauer, founder and Managing Partner of Patron Capital. Born and bred in New York, Keith left a Partner role at Lehman Brothers to set up Patron 21 years ago, which has now raised €4bn to date and is one of the few independent platforms remaining in Europe. In this podcast, Keith shares the secrets behind what it really takes to build a real estate business from scratch, the importance of giving back and, an avid climber and mountaineer, the best way to tackle climbing a 449 foot vertical sea-stack (that’s 40m taller than Big Ben!). We also hear from Keith’s colleagues, investors, close friends and family who have watched and supported him along the way.
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14 May 2020
Ric Lewis
Ric Lewis is the Founder, Executive Chair, and CIO of Tristan Capital Partners. After early success in his native North America, Ric moved to London to become CIO of AEW Europe, before striking out on his own to form Curzon Global Partners and then creating Tristan. In this interview with Emily, Ric tells the story of his move to Europe, a good friend who took a chance on him when he was a teenager, those famous Tristan parties, his many philanthropic ventures including his own charity, The Black Heart Foundation, and much much more... We also hear from Ric's contemporaries, investors, and World Cup winning England Rugby player, Matt Dawson. For more information on The Black Heart Foundation, please visit: https://blackheartfoundation.org
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