We're going back to the beginning of the road and watching Supernatural from the beginning. For your host Liz, it's probably her fifth time through. For your other host Diana, it's her first. She claims she was scared. Naturally as a supportive friend, Liz will attempt to exploit this fear as much as possible. We also dive into the spooky spook in the show in whatever way we want - occult, folklore, true crime, shopping, GAME SHOWS?
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We are talking about Season 13, Episode 19, "Funeralia." We are happy to have a Rowena-focused episode, not so much about Nahomi's return. For lore, we talk about the 15th-century accused necromancer witches Margery Jourdemayne and Duchess Eleanor Cobham.
Research Links
Eleanor Cobham: The Duchess and her Downfall – Susan Higginbotham (https://www.susanhigginbotham.com/posts/eleanor-cobham-the-duchess-and-her-downfall/)
Royal Sorceress: The Chilling Trial and Punishment of Duchess Eleanor Cobham | The Vintage News (https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/02/19/eleanor-cobham/)
The trial of Eleanor Cobham: an episode in the fall of Duke Humphrey of Gloucester in: Bulletin of the John Rylands Library Volume 51 Issue 2 (1969) (https://www.manchesterhive.com/view/journals/bjrl/51/2/article-p381.xml)
Sorcery and Court and Manor: Margery Jourdemayne, the witch of Eye next Westminster
Jessica Freeman
1 Oct 2026
13:18 Bring Em Back Alive
We are breaking down Season 13, Episode 18, "Bring Em Back Alive." Which I just got as I was typing this, could also be about bringing back a beloved character, aka Charlie, to the show, or maybe Gabriel's resurrection? We discuss the meaning of "vade retro satana" and talk about some of the latest news in exorcisms.
Research Links
Exorcist priest Michael Maginot warns of demons at Region church (https://nwitimes.com/opinion/columnists/jerry-davich/article_bf58df39-dc93-4776-bef8-9ea8a1ba06ee.html)
Catholic exorcisms are real—and they have an ancient history | National Geographic (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ancient-origins-of-catholic-exorcism)
Cover story: Exorcism - Revised rite (https://natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2000c/090100/090100j.htm)
24 Sept 2026
13:17 The Thing
The thing about Season 13, Episode 17, The Thing, is that there are a lot of things to talk about. That sentence is infuriating to AI grammar bots and middle-school English teachers. We wade through so many tentacles to find out what happens in the Rhode Island Men of Letters Chapter-house. Lore talks about the first UFO cult, the Seekers, led by Dorothy Matin.
Research Links
When prophecy fails by Festinger, Leon, 1919-1989 (https://archive.org/details/whenprophecyfail00fest_0/page/158/mode/2up)
How Psychologists Studied a Cult Expecting the Arrival of a UFO and Formulated the Theory of Cognitive Dissonance - SFG Media (https://sfg.media/en/a/psychologists-ufo-cult-cognitive-dissonance-ethics/)
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