This podcast by Stichting Boerengroep Wageningen will dig deep into agricultural matters and practices. From the fields of the Netherlands to the far-reaching corners of the world, we explore a broad spectrum of agricultural topics to hopefully educate and inspire you, our listeners. Our episodes will provide knowledge from both scientists and practitioners to explore every topic from multiple perspectives. We are on a mission for a social, just, and sustainable food system that nourishes both people and the planet. We invite you to be a part of this mission!
EP 12: Food forests and questioning the concept of 'nature' - with Malika Cieremans
How can we relearn what we view as nature and as agriculture?
Our guest in this episode is Malika Cieremans, whois a dutch pioneer in the field of food forests. She has started more than 25 years ago, before 'food forest' was even a word in the dutch language. She has her own piece of land in the forest close to Bennekom and she works with education, design, knowledge and development of food forests in the Netherlands since 10 years.
In this episode we talk about our relationship to forests whilst placing them in an international context, the importance and variety of food forests and the arbitrary line between nature and agriculture that has become so powerful in legislation.
Host of this podcast: Matti. Let’s dive in!
Website Circle Ecology from Malika:
https://circleecology.org/
Link to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/nl
Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper
Boerengroep IG: @instaboerengroep
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3 Jun 2025
Marginalized Communities: EP 11 - Migrant Justice: organising for workers' rights in Dutch Agriculture
Marita Canedo and Will Lambek from Migrant Justice discuss their organization's work advocating for economic justice and human rights for immigrant farmworkers, particularly those supplying Dutch-owned U.S. supermarkets, in this interview.
21 May 2025
Marginalized communities: EP 10 - Vrouwelijke ondernemer in de landbouw - met boerin Merel Gerritse
Farmer Merel Gerritse discusses the experience of being a female entrepreneur in the predominantly male agricultural sector and finding female role models in an interview with host Lotte.
26 Apr 2025
Marginalized communities: EP 9 Part 2 - The history of women in dutch agriculture
This episode is hte second part of our conversation with Margreet van der Burg about the history of women in dutch agriculture throughout the 20th century. Margreet is a historian who is specialized in gender studies related to agriculture, and she works as a teacher and researcher at the Wageningen university.
In this episode we continue talking about the segregated agricultural education system, the low percentage of female-owned farms in the Netherlands and the present context of rural women.
Disclaimer: we will be talking in quite a binary way, when discussing the differences between activities, norms and rights for men and women in the agricultural sector. As a non-binary person myself, I would like to add a few words here to acknowledge the fluidity of gender and the realities in the past and the present of genderqueer people on the farmland. If you are interested in this topic, take a look at this zine (and do browse the web yourself):
https://viacampesina.org/en/2021//06/ecvc-launches-publication-on-gender-diversity-in-rural-areas/
This episode is hosted by Matti.
Links Margreet van der Burg:
- https://research.wur.nl/en/publications/in-de-voetsporen-van-de-kritische-boerin-25-jaar-landelijke-boeri
- https://scholar.google.com/citations?sortby=pubdate&hl=en&user=TC3q9dEAAAAJ&view_op=list_works
Podcast Annejet Brandsma:
- https://vrouwenvanhetland.annejetbrandsma.nl/grondwerk/
Links Boerengroep:
- https://boerengroep.nl/
-https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl
- https://https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL
Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper
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8 Mar 2025
Marginalized communities: EP 9 Part 1 - The history of women in dutch agriculture
- International Women's Day Episode -
This episode is the first part of our conversation with Margreet van der Burg about the history of women in dutch agriculture throughout the 20th century. Margreet is a historian who is specialized in gender studies related to agriculture, and she works as a teacher and researcher at the Wageningen university.
In this episode we dive into the segregated agricultural education system, the lack of, or the difficulty to find, female stories and perspectives in agricultural history and the feminist movement in the 20th century.
Disclaimer: we will be talking in quite a binary way, when discussing the differences between activities, norms and rights for men and women in the agricultural sector. As a non-binary person myself, I would like to add a few words here to acknowledge the fluidity of gender and the realities in the past and the present of genderqueer people on the farmland. If you are interested in this topic, take a look at this zine (and do browse the web yourself!):
https://viacampesina.org/en/2021/06/ecvc-launches-publication-on-gender-diversity-in-rural-areas/
This episode is hosted by Matti.
Links Margreet van der Burg:
- https://www.wur.nl/en/persons/margreet-van-der-burg.htm?subpage=publications&_gl=1*1lmdve*_up*MQ..*_ga*NTY4NDI1MDM2LjE3NDE0NjUwNTA.*_ga_SZ1PQDSPJD*MTc0MTQ2NTA1MC4xLjEuMTc0MTQ2NTA1NC4wLjAuMA..
- https://scholar.google.com/citations?sortby=pubdate&hl=en&user=TC3q9dEAAAAJ&view_op=list_works
Links Boerengroep:
- https://boerengroep.nl/
- https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl
- https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL
Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper
Any questions or comments? Feel free to send an email to
podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com
13 Sept 2024
Summer Edition: Permaculture, Community and Art in Portugal
This summer, Jes, usually our editor, found himself at a special place in the midst of the old cork oak forests of Sintra in Portugal. In these forests, a permaculture design school resides. The school is called Terra Alta and was founded by Pedro Valdjiu. Jes got the chance to interview him, talking about his journey towards permaculture, his musical career, the role of art in permaculture and the importance of having a community supporting you.
In the second part, Jes speaks with Jenny. She is the co-host & teacher of Terra Alta and an artist, soon releasing her debut EP. Jenny explains how she got involved with Terra Alta, how she became a certified permaculture teacher and the influence permaculture has had on her life as an artist.
Make sure to stick to the end to hear the stories of both our guests & enjoy the episode!
[The recording of this episode wasn't planned beforehand, therefore the audio quality is not the best, our apologies for this. However we think that the lovely stories of our guests compensate for this.]
Boerengroep:
https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL
https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl
Terra Alta
https://www.terralta.org/
Jenny ~ Jennifer Lourea
https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.lourea/?hl=nl
Pedro Valdjiu
https://www.instagram.com/pedrovaldjiu/
Special thanks to Dave Zammit for helping with the audio and video:
https://www.instagram.com/dave.zammit/
8 Jul 2024
EP 7: The power of the agro-industry - with Roos Saat
In this episode, we delve into the frightening powerful world of the agro-industry with our guest Roos Saat. 🌍🚜
Having grown up on a biodynamic farm close to Almere, de Stadsboerderij, Roos has always felt the urgency and the difficulty of a fundamental transformation of the food system. Roos is the co-founder of XR Agriculture and she is actively involved with Toekomstboeren as well as with the Agro-ecological network.
Tune in as we discuss the social aspect of farmer's protests, the importance of activism and the role of the Rabobank and universities, including the WUR, in industrial agriculture. 💸💰
This episode is hosted by Matti.
Links:
- https://extinctionrebellion.nl/community/xrlandbouw/
- https://boerengroep.nl/
- https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl
- https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL
- https://toekomstboeren.nl/
- https://agroecologie.nl/
7 Jun 2024
EP 6 (in Dutch): Tijdelijk eigendomsrecht
[THIS EPISODE IS IN DUTCH]
In deze aflevering van de podcast gaan we in gesprek met Wouter Kamphuis, een biodynamische boer van ‘t Leeuweriksveld in Emmen. Hij deelt zijn fascinerende kijk op onze huidige economie en landbouwpraktijken.
Het bezitten van land, klopt dat eigenlijk wel? Wat als het concept van landbezit altijd tijdelijk was? Welke impact heeft dit op de landbouw? We verkennen vraagstukken rondom eigendomsrecht en bespreken een economie gebaseerd op goederen en diensten. Is dit een onrealistisch, of is ons huidige landbouwsysteem juist een onhoudbare utopie?
Luister mee en vorm je eigen mening over dit boeiende onderwerp. Veel plezier met luisteren!
Links to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen
IG: instaboerengroep
English description:
In this episode of the podcast, we talk with Wouter Kamphuis, a biodynamic farmer from 't Leeuweriksveld in Emmen. He shares his fascinating perspective on our current economy and agricultural practices.
Does owning land really make sense? What if the concept of land ownership was always meant to be temporary? What impact does this have on agriculture? We explore issues surrounding property rights and discuss an economy based on goods and services. Is this an unrealistic notion, or is our current agricultural system actually an unsustainable utopia?
8 Apr 2024
EP 5: Live podcast with No Shit Food
This episode is a special one: it was recorded live with an audience!
We delve into the topic of Vegan Farming with Joost van Strien. He is known as the farmer of Zonnegoed in Flevoland and from No Shit Food. Joost is one of the two (larger scale) vegan farmers in the Netherlands, a true pioneer! Topics like green manure, vegan compost, and innovative cultivation methods, as well as the nutrient cycle in agriculture, are discussed. The latter topic is delved into more deeply with the help of Kimo van Dijk, a researcher from Wageningen University & Research, who enriches us with his scientific knowledge about humanure (=human manure). A discussion is opened with the audience about the statement: “To produce food in a sustainable way, we should transition to humanure and vegan compost instead of chemical fertilizer and animal manure”. Are you curious about the opinion of the audience?
Tune in and enjoy!
Relevant links of this episode:
www.noshitfood.nl
www.zonnegoed.nl
www.arneco.org
Links to Boerengroep:
www.boerengroep.nl
FB: www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen
IG: instaboerengroep
nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep
Any questions of comments? Feel free to send an email to podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com
1 Mar 2024
EP 4: Bio-cultural restoration: refostering local roots – with Edo Cáceres Salgado
How to connect place, culture and economy according to the principles of agro-ecology for present and future generations? How do we refoster our local roots and rebuild a local economy?
Our guest in this episode is Edo Caceres Salgado. With Chilean roots and a strong connection to his ancestral lands, Edo got in touch with agro-ecology and regenerative farming whilst setting up his own farm in Chili. Working there with small holder farmers and indigenous communities has lead him to set up his own company selling natural cosmetics, Mas Newen, and it also gave him a different perspective on place, economy and culture.
In this episode we talk about our roots, our connection to the land that we live on and to the people around us, about bioregions and about creating thriving local economies.
Website Stroomgebied Zuid-veluwe: https://www.stroomgebied.org/ (https://www.stroomgebied.org/)
IG Stroomgebied Zuid-Veluwe: https://www.instagram.com/stroomgebiedzuidveluwe/ (https://www.instagram.com/stroomgebiedzuidveluwe/)
Links to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/ (https://www.boerengroep.nl/)
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen (https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen)
Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper
https://www.instagram.com/podcast_digging_deeper/ (https://www.instagram.com/podcast_digging_deeper/)
Boerengroep IG: @instaboerengroep
https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep (https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep)
Any questions or comments? Feel free to send an email to podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com (mailto:podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com)
2 Feb 2024
EP 3: Solidarity payment: a fair income for farmers - with Elske Hageraats
How do farmers get a fair income? In this episode we will dive into this important topic together with Elske Hageraats.
Elske worked as a farmer for many years and experienced struggles with earning a fair income. She started doing research and ended up writing a book called Eerlijk Loon, which means Fair Wage. She introduced a different kind of payment method called Solidarity Payment, which focuses on a fair wage for the farmer and which creates a relationship between the producer and the consumer. In this episode she will tell us all about it! At the end of the conversation, we also talk about her course “Agroecology in Practice”, a program that teaches you the practical knowledge and skills to, after one year, start your own agroecological farm. If this interests you, make sure you stay until the end. Tune into the episode and start listening to Elske her wisdom!
'Agroecology in practice' course:
https://www.agro-ecologie.nu/cursus/
Links to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen
IG: instaboerengroep
https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep
Any questions of comments? Feel free to send an email to podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com
2 Feb 2024
EP 2: Organic farming, feeding the world and the potential of lupin beans - with André Jurrius
Can we feed the world with organic farming? This question is often asked when people talk about organic farming methods. But is it a sensible question? Both André Jurrius, the guest of this episode, and Martin van Ittersum, a researcher from Wageningen University, give their insights on this big question.
Together with André Jurrius, we dive into the world of organic farming. Moreover, challenges within the agrosystem, the impact of climate change on farmers, and issues like food waste are addressed. André is the organic farmer of ‘Ekoboerderij de Lingehof’ and the co-founder of ‘Lekker Lupine’. His mission is to provide healthy food for humans and nature.
Tune in and enjoy the conversation!
Links:
https://ekoboerderijdelingehof.nl/ (https://ekoboerderijdelingehof.nl/)
https://www.lekkerlupine.nl/ (https://www.lekkerlupine.nl/)
https://pranafarmethiopia.com/crowdfunding/ (https://pranafarmethiopia.com/crowdfunding/) (the crowdfunding!!!)
2 Feb 2024
EP 1: Our agricultural system, farmer realities and responsibility of consumers - with Klarien Klingen
Join us in this insightful episode as we dive into the world of agriculture with Klarien Klingen, an agroecological farmer and passionate climate activist. This episode includes valuable perspectives on the fear in our agricultural system, challenges faced by farmers, injustices within our food system, and the responsibility of consumers.
Klarien shares her experiences and formulates her thoughtful insights very well, making this conversation both informative and inspiring. Listen as she shares her wisdom and advice and encourages everyone to think about our thinking and beliefs.
Tune in and enjoy!
Links to movements and organisations discussed in the episode:
https://toekomstboeren.nl/
https://csanetwerk.nl/kaart/
urgenci.net
https://www.globalclimatepledge.com/agroecology-a-social-movement/
Links to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen
IG: instaboerengroep
https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep
Any questions or comments? Feel free to send an email to podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com
2 Feb 2024
Whom are you listening to?
This episode will provide you with valuable information about Stichting Boerengroep Wageningen, the organization behind this podcast. Our host, Lisanne, will start by delving into the history of Boerengroep, starting in 1971. After that, the coordinator of Boerengroep, Irene, will share the core values and mission that drive our Boerengroep. Lastly, Mariana will tell you about ‘Inspring Theatre’, our creative sister organization that brings creativity and agricultural activism together.
Don’t miss out and immerse yourself in the Boerengroep landscape by tuning in. Enjoy!
Links to Boerengroep:
https://www.boerengroep.nl/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen
IG: instaboerengroep
https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep
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