Directions: Navigating Beyond-GDP Futures

About Directions: Navigating Beyond-GDP Futures

Directions: Navigating Beyond GDP Futures explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES, whose objective is to better understand the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development. Guest speakers are: Kaushik Basu Romina Boarini Pedro Conceição Marc Fleurbaey Enrico Giovannini Clara Mattei Shahra Razavi

Publisher

SPES - Sustainability Performance, Evidence and Scenarios

Category

news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

8 Jan 2026

Latest episode

8 Jan 2026

Latest episodes

8 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   8 Jan 2026

   Tackling today’s multiple crisis with an integrated perspective with Marc Fleurbaey

   In this episode, we explore the complex concept of social progress with Professor Marc Fleurbaey, Paris School of Economics. We try to understand why it matters for fosteringsustainability and shaping the future, and how it can help tackle today’s multiple crisis, and the crucial role of measurement in understanding and driving meaningful change. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all. The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: ⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/)/ You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: VATDYTFHHP16XBEZ Artist: : Benjamin Tissot SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

2. 

   8 Jan 2026

   Exploring the fallacy of the capitalist economic system with Clara Mattei

   In this episode, together with Professor Clara Mattei Professor of Economics at The University of Tulsa and President of FREE – Forum for Real Economic Emancipation), we unpack the limits of economic growth and the deep structural failures of our current economic system. We also explore the inputs that are needed to trigger a systemic change towards a new concept of productivity and sustainability transition. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all. The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/) You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: HJB76WEUW2JMLH44 Artist: Benjamin Tissot SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

3. 

   8 Jan 2026

   The stories behind indicators with Pedro Conceição

   In this episode, we focus on indicators. Together with Pedro Conceição (Director of the Human Development Report Office of the United Nations Development Programme), we try to go beyond the simple interpretation of indicators asnumbers to discover what they actually tell us about specific situations and societies. These stories that lie beneath indicators inform on the challenges that real people face and can become a useful tool to design policies that efficiently foster Sustainable Human Development . Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability.The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all.The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/) You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: ZYPKPISXH95ABMJG Artist: Benjamin TissotSPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

4. 

   8 Jan 2026

   Why is universal social protection fundamental for the future of our societies? with Shahra Razavi

   In this episode, together with Shahrashoub Razavi, Director of the Social Protection Department at the International Labour Organisation, we delve deeper on the meaning of universal social protection, its role as a fundamental human right, its links to gender equality, climate action, and economic transformation, and why it is central to the future of our societies. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability.The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all.The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/) You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: HKWLHPUMZKQGVOUI Artist: Benjamin Tissot SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

5. 

   8 Jan 2026

   Is reaching a consensus to go beyond-GDP possible? with Romina Boarini

   In this episode, we investigate with Romina Boarini (Director of the OECD WISE Centre) how to trigger a consensus to go beyond GDP and foster Sustainable and Inclusive Wellbeing, taking into account technical, policy and public domains. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability.The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all.The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/ You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: EPESIECK1AXYRIR4 Artist: Marcus P. SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

6. 

   8 Jan 2026

   How do we convince institutions to definitely go beyond-GDP? with Enrico Giovannini

   In this episode, we discuss with Prof. Enrico Giovannini, full professor in Economic Statistics at the University of Rome Tor Vergata and member of the UN High-Level Expert Group on Beyond-GDP, on how to convince policymakers, nationalstatistical institutes, citizens and media to definitively go beyond-GDP focusing their efforts on Sustainable and Inclusive Wellbeing. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability.The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all.The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: ⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/) You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code: AG9IU3HUVX96N1RC Artist: Lunar Years SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

7. 

   8 Jan 2026

   The urgency of fostering Sustainable Human Development with Kaushik Basu

   In this episode, we discuss with Kaushik Basu (professor in Economics at Cornell University and co-chair of the UN High-Level Expert Group on Beyond-GDP) on the urgency of fostering Sustainable Human Development across the world, based on only new theories and metrics, but mostly a renewed moral commitment by policy-makers and citizens. Directions – Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is a podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability.The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES. The objective of the project is to bridge productivity and growth with inclusiveness and environmental protection, to ensure shared prosperity and wellbeing for all.The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To deepen the project policy recommendations, key messages and main challenges, read here: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/driving-sustainable-human-development-in-europe-and-beyond/)/ You can learn more about the project on: ⁠⁠https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/⁠⁠ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director: Professor Mario Biggeri, University of Florence. SPES’ Project Manager: Andrea Ferrannini, University of Florence. Recording & editing: Barbara Palla, Communication Officer of the project. Music by: Bensound License code:FUL65WMOA5DO3FA5 Artist: Roman Senyk SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios, funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551.

8. 

   8 Jan 2026

   Directions: Navigating Beyond-GDP Futures

   Directions: Navigating Beyond GDP Futures is podcast series that explores the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The podcast is produced under the framework of the project SPES - Sustainability Performances, Evidence and Scenarios. The objective of the project is to better understand the interconnections between economic growth, human flourishing, and sustainability. The ambition is to equip policymakers with information that will guide their strategies for fostering sustainable human development, using new evidence about past, present and future performances of the sustainability transition. To know more on the project you can visit the website: https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/ (https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/) SPES’ Scientific Director is Professor Mario Biggeri from the University of Florence SPES’ Project Manager is Doctor Andrea Ferrannini from the University of Florence Recording and editing has been made by Barbra Palla, Communication Officer of the project also from the University of Florence SPES is funded by European Union’s Horizon Europe Programme under Grant Agreement No. 101094551 Music for this trailer:Bensound.com License code: HLIP75HJR3XDL1ME and VC91PATUKWUWGZT3 Artist: Benjamin Lazzarus

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