Doing Good by Doing Better

About Doing Good by Doing Better

For world-shapers, not spectators. Hear the hard lessons, bold ideas, and real strategies of purpose-driven growth. Hosted by Margaret Rogers, CEO of the professional services firm Pariveda, the show features visionary leaders who’ve aligned purpose with profit, are navigating the fast-moving world of AI, and have faced the tough moments when their purpose was tested. Every conversation offers practical insights you can use to solve forward. Listen every other week to keep learning how to do good by doing better.

Publisher

Pariveda Solutions

Category

business · technology

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

27 Oct 2025

Latest episode

16 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

25 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   16 Oct 2026

   Balancing Purpose and Profit: Terra Neilson on Rethinking Sustainable Banking

   Can a financial institution redefine success by balancing purpose and profit, proving that financial performance and meaningful social impact don't have to come at the expense of one another? On this episode of Doing Good by Doing Better, Terra Neilson, Chief Impact Officer and Executive Vice President at Beneficial State Bank, shares how her organization challenges the traditional divide between mission and margin. By placing purpose at the center of its business model, Beneficial State Bank demonstrates how financial sustainability, community impact, and long-term growth can work together—even in one of the most highly regulated industries. Drawing on her unique background in both business and social work, Terra explores what it takes to turn purpose into measurable business outcomes. From rethinking traditional credit underwriting practices to developing new ways to measure community impact, she shares how balancing purpose and profit requires more than good intentions. It takes thoughtful business strategy, human-centric leadership, and a willingness to challenge established systems. The conversation also explores why businesses can learn from the nonprofit sector, how impact measurement can become a core part of strategic decision-making, and why meaningful change often comes through persistence, collaboration, and incremental progress rather than perfection. This episode explores: Purpose and Profit Working Together: Why balancing purpose and profit means treating financial sustainability and community impact as interconnected priorities rather than competing trade-offs. Making Impact Part of Business Strategy: How Beneficial State Bank is developing impact accounting standards and KPIs to measure meaningful outcomes and guide long-term business decisions. Rethinking Traditional Business Models: What Terra's experience across business and social work reveals about integrating purpose, performance, and human-centric leadership into organizational strategy. Creating Meaningful Change: Why challenging historical biases in banking requires persistence, collaboration, and a willingness to rethink established practices and policies. Ethical Technology and AI: How emerging technologies could help address longstanding inequities in financial systems—and why responsible innovation requires a strong ethical framework. Whether you lead a business, shape organizational strategy, or are looking for new ways to create meaningful impact, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on what it takes to build an organization where doing good and achieving sustainable business success go hand in hand. If this conversation challenges you to rethink what it means to balance purpose and profit—and what becomes possible when impact is built into the way an organization operates—hit the 'Follow' or 'Subscribe' button in your app right now so you never miss an episode of the Doing Good by Doing Better (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doing-good-by-doing-better/id1848929888) podcast.

2. 

   2 Oct 2026

   How Human-Centric Leadership Transforms Corporate Diversity and Hiring with Robert J. Crowder

   What changes when an executive search firm shifts from transactional hiring to placing community, purpose, and diversity at the heart of its business model? On this episode of Doing Good by Doing Better, Robert J. Crowder, Founder and Managing Partner of Chapman Farrell Group, shares how human-centric leadership, diversity of thought, and a commitment to putting people first have shaped the way he approaches executive search and the business he has built around it. For ten years, Chapman Farrell Group has challenged conventional recruiting assumptions by building a model rooted in trust, relationships, and long-term success. Grounded in a powerful family legacy tied to the Underground Railroad, Robert approaches executive search not simply as a transaction, but as an opportunity to advocate for others and help create pathways to career and economic freedom. By focusing on human-centric leadership across his firm’s operations, Robert has built a high-performing model where 100% of candidate slates include women or minorities, over 80% of final hires are women or minorities, and every placement is backed by an uncommon 18-month guarantee. The conversation explores what human-centric leadership looks like in practice. From creating environments where diversity of thought leads to more perspectives, choices, and richer decisions, to choosing authentic community building over self-serving networking. Robert also shares lessons from building his own firm, including the importance of knowing when to pivot, and discusses why genuine human discernment and strong relationships will remain essential as AI continues to reshape executive search. Key discussion points include: Redefining Diversity as Diversity of Thought: How different experiences and perspectives can help organizations see new possibilities, create more choices, and make richer decisions. Connecting Legacy to Purpose: How Robert’s family history with the Underground Railroad influences the purpose he finds in his work and his commitment to advocating for others. Building Trust into the Business Model: How Chapman Farrell Group approaches executive search as more than a transaction, from diverse candidate slates and identifying winning candidates early to an uncommon 18-month placement guarantee. Community Over Networking: Why Robert believes contributing to others and building genuine relationships creates more value than approaching relationships transactionally. Entrepreneurship, AI, and the Future of Executive Search: What Robert has learned about adapting and pivoting as a founder and why he believes discernment, relationships, and human connection will continue to differentiate leaders as technology evolves. Whether you lead a business, manage talent, or guide executive teams, this conversation offers a powerful framework for aligning purpose with operational excellence while thinking differently about diversity, decision-making, and relationships. If this conversation challenges you to rethink executive hiring—and what becomes possible when human-centric leadership guides your strategy—hit the ‘Follow’ or ‘Subscribe’ button in your app right now so you never miss an episode of Doing Good by Doing Better. (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doing-good-by-doing-better/id1848929888)

3. 

   18 Sept 2026

   Putting People First: Andrew Zahn on Building a Business Model Around Trust

   What changes when an organization puts people first and builds its business model around that belief? On this episode of Doing Good by Doing Better, Andrew Zahn, Development and Community Relations at Servant Stage, shares how a people-first approach can shape not only an organization’s culture, but the way it operates, grows, and measures success. For more than a decade, Servant Stage has challenged conventional assumptions about what a sustainable theater company should look like. Through its pay-what-you-will model, the organization has removed financial barriers to professional theater while growing to serve more than 60,000 audience members annually and operating in the black every year since its inception. Rather than prioritizing growth at all costs, Servant Stage has built its model around accessibility, community trust, financial discipline, and a belief that people come before product. The conversation explores what that philosophy looks like in practice. From waiting until funding is in place before making strategic hires to measuring success by how people were treated, not simply how an event performed. Andrew also shares what leaders outside the arts can learn from Servant Stage’s willingness to question traditional business assumptions and ask a different question: What if part of what your organization has to offer could simply be a gift? Key discussion points include: Building a Sustainable Pay-What-You-Will Model: How Servant Stage combines accessibility with financial discipline, growing organically rather than pursuing scale for scale’s sake. Putting People Before Product: Why Servant Stage evaluates success by how people are treated and how that philosophy shapes decisions across the organization. Building Trust Through Community: How a model supported by individual donors and 95% volunteer hours transforms audiences and supporters into active participants in the organization’s mission. Challenging Traditional Business Assumptions: How the “magic if” can help leaders question conventional thinking and experiment with giving their time, talent, or resources without making every interaction transactional. Redefining Growth and Success: Why Servant Stage has chosen not to make growth its primary measure of success and how financial patience can create a more sustainable organization. Whether you lead a business, nonprofit, or team, this conversation offers a different framework for thinking about growth, community, and the relationship between purpose and financial sustainability. If this conversation challenges you to rethink what it means to put people first and what becomes possible when trust is built into the way an organization operates, hit the ‘Follow’ or ‘Subscribe’ button in your app right now so you never miss an episode of Doing Good by Doing Better (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doing-good-by-doing-better/id1848929888).

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Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

7 ratings

Spotify

5.0 / 5

5 ratings

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