It's time to talk about the end of the world. With your host, Liron Shapira. <br/><br/><a href="https://lironshapira.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">lironshapira.substack.com</a>

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It's time to talk about the end of the world. With your host, Liron Shapira. <br/><br/><a href="https://lironshapira.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">lironshapira.substack.com</a>
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June 23, 2026
Robert Wright's New Book, The God Test, Launches Today. What's His P(We Pass)?
<p>Bestselling author Robert Wright has landed on a sobering conclusion: on our current trajectory, AI dystopia is likely within eight years.</p><p>We get into his P(Doom), his case for slowing down, why racing China could backfire into authoritarianism here at home, and why he thinks evolution itself might have a purpose.</p><p>Bob is the author of The Moral Animal and Nonzero, a Pulitzer finalist, and hosts the excellent Nonzero podcast.</p><p>Get his new book, The God Test: Artificial Intelligence and Our Coming Cosmic Reckoning.</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>00:00:00 — Cold Open</p><p>00:00:50 — Introducing Robert Wright</p><p>00:03:21 — What Is The God Test?</p><p>00:04:59 — AI as Evolutionary Force, Not Normal Technology</p><p>00:07:34 — AI Heaven vs AI Hell</p><p>00:09:09 — Bob's Background: From Hinton in 1983 to Today</p><p>00:16:09 — What's Your P(Doom)?™</p><p>00:20:09 — The Mainline Scenario: Dystopia in 8 Years</p><p>00:22:04 — Destabilization and the Road to Authoritarianism</p><p>00:25:35 — Why Racing China Backfires</p><p>00:28:37 — Slowing Down AI + Would Bob Support PauseAI?</p><p>00:32:38 — Intellidynamics and Why AIs Collude</p><p>00:44:44 — Hinton's Warning and How LLMs Discover Meaning</p><p>00:53:48 — Symbol Grounding and Killing Searle's Chinese Room</p><p>01:02:03 — Let's Talk About God</p><p>01:10:14 — Orthogonality, Power, and the Concentration Problem</p><p>01:16:31 — Wrap-Up</p><p>Links</p><p>Get Bob’s new book, “The God Test” — <a target="_blank" href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-God-Test/Robert-Wright/9781668061657">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-God-Test/Robert-Wright/9781668061657</a></p><p>Follow Bob on X — <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/robertwrighter">https://x.com/robertwrighter</a></p><p>“If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies” by Eliezer Yudkowsky & Nate Soares (referenced) — <a target="_blank" href="https://ifanyonebuildsit.com">https://ifanyonebuildsit.com</a></p><p>Join the Doom Debates Discord — <a target="_blank" href="https://discord.gg/g2X8h5UCrU">https://discord.gg/g2X8h5UCrU</a></p><p>Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.</p><p>Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at <a target="_blank" href="https://doomdebates.com/">DoomDebates.com</a> and to <a target="_blank" href="https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates">youtube.com/@DoomDebates</a>, or to really take things to the next level: <a target="_blank" href="https://doomdebates.com/donate">Donate</a> 🙏</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Doom Debates at <a href="https://lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe</a>

June 19, 2026
Will AI Actually Destroy Humanity? Liron vs 9 Rationalists at LessOnline 2026
Liron Shapira debates nine rationalists at LessOnline 2026 about whether advanced AI poses an existential threat to humanity, exploring alignment challenges and potential extinction scenarios.

June 17, 2026
Why I'm Happy the US Government BANNED Claude Fable — "AI in the AM" Livestream with Nathan Labenz
Host Liron Shapira discusses the US government's ban on Claude Fable with Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan, exploring its societal implications and the future of AI.
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