Drilling It Down

About Drilling It Down

More dentists than ever are seeking out independent, objective, financial advice. In a world recently flooded with private equity money, lower dental insurance reimbursements, and questionable tax advice, it can be tough to see through the fog and answer the most important question, how can a dentist make more money? Join your host Wes Lyon as he helps you see clearly through the fog of dental office financials, allowing you to concentrate on delivering quality dental care. Wes prides himself in offering independent, uncensored, objective advice to help dentists increase practice profitability, make better practice management decisions, and improve their personal financial planning.  Whether you’re a recent graduate, new owner, in the stride of your career, or considering a transition into retirement, the Drilling It Down Podcast will help you make more money, pay less tax, and reach financial independence earlier. About Us McGill and Lyon Dental Advisors is an independently owned one-stop financial services resource for the dental profession, based on their "every step of the way" team approach. Their team offers financial consulting services and continuing education seminars exclusively for dentists nationwide. Throughout the years more than 30,000 doctors nationwide have trusted McGill and Lyon Dental Advisors for objective advice to reach their financial goals. Aside from their consulting, transition, and continuing education services, the group also publishes The McGill & Lyon Dental Advisory, a dental business newsletter that offers valuable insights for all dentists. The McGill & Lyon Dental Advisory provides strategies and advice to help minimize federal and state income taxes, maximize practice profits, reduce overhead expenses, and create and protect your wealth. Membership includes monthly issues, searchable archives, special reports and bulletins, Q&As, financial calculators, forms, guides, letters, and more! Visit mcgilladvisory.com to subscribe! Wes and his guests are experienced dental advisors specializing in tax planning, business planning, financial planning, wealth management, and practice transitions, who take pride in providing independent advice that puts the independent dentists’ best interests first. Host Biography Wes Lyon: Wes helps dentists and specialists across the country achieve financial independence by improving practice profitability, slashing income taxes, managing dental insurance exposure, and making better personal financial decisions. Wes serves as President & CEO of Lyon Publishing Inc., President & CEO of McGill and Lyon Dental Advisors, and Managing Partner of Lyon Wealth Advisors Group, LLC. He is a highly sought after speaker making regular appearances at industry events, study clubs, podcasts, and McGill and Lyon seminars. Wes is also published in other editorials periodically and writes a Financial Management column for the Academy of General Dentistry. Before entering the dental consulting world, Wes worked in institutional investment management. Prior to that, Wes was a financial advisor specializing in helping small business owners with their personal finances. McGill and Lyon Dental Advisors is a consulting firm providing dentists and specialists independent, objective financial advice as it relates to tax planning, business planning, and financial planning. McGill and Lyon Dental Advisors was founded in 1983 by Dr. Charles Blair and John K. McGill. Since then, the company has helped over 1,000 dentists reach their financial goals while paying the least amount of taxes required through their tax, business, and financial planning service.

Publisher

Wes Lyon

Category

business · business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

10 Oct 2023

Latest episode

4 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

10 of 39 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   4 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Are You Losing Tens of Thousands to a Poor Conversion Rate?

   Wes and Tyler reveal conversion rate benchmarks and process changes that help dental practices capture lost revenue from new patients.

2. 

   21 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Avoid These Top 5 Practice Transition Mistakes

   Host Wes interviews David Mathews, Transitions Advisor at McGill and Lyon Practice Transitions, about the top five costly mistakes doctors make during practice transitions.

3. 

   14 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT

   IRS Penalty Relief, Buying Patient Charts, and More I August 2026

   Host Wes and Host Mario discuss strategies for dentists to increase revenue and avoid mistakes, including buying patient charts and joining buying groups.

Inside a recent episode

Are You Losing Tens of Thousands to a Poor Conversion Rate?

Published 4 Sept 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] That way there's immediate accountability on what's going on there. And now, once we start tracking it, that's it. Pretty simple. You know, she didn't recommend going out of this world. She kind of said another, you know, hey, track crowns or more. She's like, you know, we kind of leave off every little filling on there. We want to track this substantial treatment. That way we can do something about it. But... Pretty simple, straightforward. And it just gives us an idea of if there's any problems. Without tracking, you don't know if you're at the 90% conversion or if you're at the 30% conversion. […]

Who has been a guest on Drilling It Down

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• David Mathews
• Tyler McGill
• Dr. Scott Menaker

Reach and audience

Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.

YouTube views

65,788

Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025

Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

16 ratings

Spotify

5.0 / 5

1 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 53 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

48

Social presence

0

YouTube

76

Engagement

71

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Books guests

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