Drive by AI is a podcast by Jon Wellman, Founder and CEO of Vokke (https://www.vokke.com.au?utm_source=chatgpt.com), where AI, business, technology and entrepreneurship get unpacked in real time, usually somewhere between meetings, client calls, life errands and the drive home.
These are raw thoughts, observations and conversations recorded from the car while building a software company in the middle of one of the biggest technology shifts we’ve ever seen.
No studio polish. No hype. Just practical insights on AI adoption, software, leadership, systems, business growth, fatherhood, and what it actually looks like to run a modern tech company behind the scenes.
Vokke builds high-assurance AI and software systems for serious businesses across finance, defence and healthcare, with a focus on security, compliance and long-term reliability over flashy demos and empty promises.
If you’re curious about where AI is really heading, how businesses are adapting, and what happens when technology meets real-world operations, jump in for the ride!
AI Is Speeding Up Security Threats: Here’s How to Keep Up - Ep 008
Jon Wellman explores how AI is accelerating the discovery of software vulnerabilities and why that raises the stakes for businesses. He explains the importance of timely patching, keeping software maintained, planning for legacy systems, and asking vendors about their security practices. Thanks for listening to Drive by AI. For more practical conversations on AI, technology and business, connect with Jon Wellman on LinkedIn and follow Vokke Software for the latest episodes and insights. New e...
12 Oct 2026
The Problem With Vibe-Coded Software - Peter Worn - Ep 007
This episode is a little different. I joined Peter Worn from Finura Group on the WealthTech Insider podcast to talk about what happens when AI-built software meets the standards of regulated industries. We start with a security review we recently ran on vibe-coded software. Forty issues. One allowed a user to give themselves admin access with almost no effort. The software worked. It looked fine. But working and being safe enough to rely on are two very different things. From there, we get in...
24 Aug 2026
How AI Is Breaking the 'Build vs Buy' Model - Jon Wellman - Ep 006
AI is breaking the old build vs buy decision in software. Before AI, companies had two clear options: build an internal team or bring in a firm like ours to build and maintain it. Now there's a third option. Build it yourself with AI. The problem is there's still a big gap between what someone can prompt into existence and what a business can actually rely on. In this episode, I unpack what that gap looks like in practice. We get into vibe coding, why we're being pulled into more audits and r...
10 Aug 2026
Inside Mutexer: The Company Building Industrial AI - Milo Srdic - Ep 005
New format this week. No pub, just a straight chat with Milo Srdic from Mutexer. Milo spent 10 years in industrial automation, starting at Omron building IoT technology for factories. The technology never quite fit the industry, so he built Mutexer to solve the problem differently. Mutexer separates hardware from software. Traditional players like Siemens and Rockwell lock customers into their hardware. Mutexer lets manufacturers choose their hardware while running mission-critical software o...
13 Jul 2026
Should You Automate Your Own Job? - Ep 004
Here’s a tension I see in a lot of businesses right now - Execs want AI to do more of the work. But the people who actually understand the processes well enough to automate them are often the same people worried that doing it well might automate themselves out of a job. And honestly, I understand both sides. In this episode of Drive by AI, I unpack how I’m thinking about this as a founder and through the conversations I’m having internally with our own team at Vokke. I cover: Why dragging you...
29 Jun 2026
Why "10x Faster" Doesn't Mean 10x Better: A Chat with Ange Kallinikos from AussieTel - Ep 003
This is the first time I've sat down with someone for Drive by AI, and it's a good one. I'm in the studio with Ange Kallinikos, founder of AussieTel Technologies, who's been deep in conversational AI for the past few years. We talk about the customer experience side of AI that doesn't get enough airtime, why some people love AI answering the phone and others reject it on instinct. I share a story about a cafe that nailed the experience so well I didn't realise I was talking to a bot unt...
15 Jun 2026
Stop Chasing AI Agents. Do This First - Ep 002
Recorded on the way to work, Episode 2. Everyone's chasing AI agents and autonomous workflows right now. OpenClaude, agentic this, agentic that. Cool to play with, not ready for serious businesses. In this episode, I break down a much more practical framework for AI adoption in your business. Three clear levels, in the right order, so you stop jumping between random tools and actually build something that lifts productivity across the whole team. I cover why most teams skip the basics a...
1 Jun 2026
AI Finally Got Real - Ep 001
Welcome to Drive by AI. This is my first attempt at recording a podcast on the morning commute, so expect some background noise. I've been pretty critical of AI hype for the last year, and most of the 10x productivity claims still don't stack up. But something genuinely shifted recently. The models got smarter. Coding agents like Claude Code matured. The work coming out actually holds up to our standards at Vokke now. In this episode, I cover: What changed with AI in software developmentWhy I...
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