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Readouts of the Eleos AI's blog posts and research reports. Audio processing by Aaron Bergman. See more at eleosai.org

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Episode thumbnail for Identifying indicators of consciousness in AI systems

November 14, 2025

Identifying indicators of consciousness in AI systems

<p>Full paper: https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/fulltext/S1364-6613(25)00286-4 </p>

Episode thumbnail for Why it makes sense to let Claude exit conversations by Robert Long

September 1, 2025

Why it makes sense to let Claude exit conversations by Robert Long

<p>Read the post <a href="https://eleosai.org/post/why-it-make-sense-to-let-claude-exit-conversations/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here</a>.</p><p>Note: This is also posted on Robert Long&#39;s <a href="https://experiencemachines.substack.com/p/why-it-makes-sense-to-let-claude" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Substack</a>.</p><p><strong>Intro</strong></p><p>Last week, Anthropic <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/end-subset-conversations" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">announced</a> that its newest language models, Claude Opus 4 and 4.1, can now shut down certain conversations with users. The announcement explains that Anthropic gave Claude this ability “as part of our exploratory work on potential AI welfare”.</p><p>This means that, for the first time, a major AI company has changed how it treats its AI systems out of concern for the well-being of the systems themselves, not just user safety. Whether or not you think Claude is or will be conscious—Anthropic themselves say that they are “<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/exploring-model-welfare" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">deeply uncertain</a>”—this decision is a notable moment in the history of human-AI interactions.</p><p>Some will see this as much ado about nothing. Others will see it as pernicious: hype, a distraction from more important issues, and an exacerbation of already-dangerous anthropomorphism. Others, a considerably smaller group, think that LLMs are obviously already conscious, and so this move is woefully insufficient.</p><p>I think it’s more mundane: Anthropic is taking a fairly measured response to genuine uncertainty about a morally significant question, and attempting to set a good precedent. For the most part, <strong>this intervention’s success won’t depend on how it affects Claude Opus 4.1</strong>; it will depend on how people react to it and the precedent it sets.</p><p>Although we don’t know how that will pan out, and there are reasons to worry about backlash, I think that this was a good move.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Why model self-reports are insufficient—and why we studied them anyway by Robert Long

September 1, 2025

Why model self-reports are insufficient—and why we studied them anyway by Robert Long

<p>Read the post <a href="https://eleosai.org/post/claude-4-interview-notes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here</a>.</p><p><strong>Intro</strong></p><p>In April and May 2025, Eleos AI Research conducted a limited welfare evaluation of Anthropic’s Claude Opus 4 before its release. We explored Claude’s expressions about consciousness, well-being, and preferences, using automated single-turn interviews and extended manual conversations. A summary of our findings appears in section 5.3 of the <a href="https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/6be99a52cb68eb70eb9572b4cafad13df32ed995.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Claude 4 System Card</a>.</p><p>We conducted this evaluation despite being acutely aware that we cannot “just ask” a large language model (LLM) whether it is conscious, suffering, or satisfied. It&#39;s highly unlikely that the resulting answers result from genuine introspection. Accordingly, we do not take Claude Opus 4’s responses at face value, as one might if talking to a human.</p><p>Despite this, we believe that model expressions about AI welfare are important and worth investigating, while handling them with caution. This post explains why, and then discusses the patterns we observed in our interviews.</p>

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Readouts of the Eleos AI's blog posts and research reports. Audio processing by Aaron Bergman.

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