Join hosts Ale, Royalee, and Veronika as they explore the role of quality in software engineering through conversations with industry guests and firsthand experiences. Each episode delivers practical tips for improving testing, automation, and processes, insights from the e-commerce, ad-tech, and education industries, and a shared belief that quality is everyone’s responsibility—not just testers!

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Join hosts Ale, Royalee, and Veronika as they explore the role of quality in software engineering through conversations with industry guests and firsthand experiences. Each episode delivers practical tips for improving testing, automation, and processes, insights from the e-commerce, ad-tech, and education industries, and a shared belief that quality is everyone’s responsibility—not just testers!
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Recent Episodes

June 3, 2026
21: The Power of No: Choosing What Matters Most
<p>In this episode of Engineering Quality, Veronika, Ale, and Royalee explore one of the most challenging and most important skills in engineering, leadership, and life: learning how to say “no”.</p><p><br></p><p>From project requests and career opportunities to team commitments and personal responsibilities, it's easy to fall into the habit of saying yes to everything. But what happens when every “yes” comes at the expense of quality, focus, wellbeing, and long-term success?</p><p><br></p><p>Together, they discuss:</p><ul><li><p>Why saying no is essential for protecting quality and preventing burnout</p></li><li><p>How overcommitment impacts teams, delivery, and trust</p></li><li><p>The role of alignment, priorities, and values in decision-making</p></li><li><p>Why engineers and leaders often feel pressure to say “yes”</p></li><li><p>The hidden costs of people-pleasing and fear of missing out (FOMO)</p></li><li><p>Questions to ask before accepting new work or commitments</p></li><li><p>How delegation helps grow teams and create future leaders</p></li><li><p>Personal stories of burnout, overcommitment, and lessons learned</p></li><li><p>Why a thoughtful “no” is often more valuable than an unrealistic “yes”</p></li></ul><p><br></p><p>The conversation explores how setting healthy boundaries can strengthen relationships, improve trust, and create space for the work that truly matters. Whether you're an engineer, leader, tester, or simply someone trying to balance competing priorities, this episode offers practical advice for making more intentional decisions.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow us on social:</p><p>💼LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/engineeringquality/?viewAsMember=true"><u>Engineering Quality</u></a></p><p>🎥 YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringQuality"><u>@EngineeringQuality</u></a></p><p>🌐 Website:<a href="https://www.engineeringqualitypodcast.com"> <u>https://www.engineeringqualitypodcast.com</u></a></p><p>Email: <a href="mailto:engineeringqualitypodcast@gmail.com"><u>engineeringqualitypodcast@gmail.com</u></a></p><p><br></p>

May 20, 2026
20: Building Better and Happier Engineering Teams with Ashley Hunsberger
<p>In this episode of Engineering Quality, Veronika, Ale, and Royalee are joined by developer experience leader and quality advocate Ashley Hunsberger to explore the connection between developer wellbeing, psychological safety, and software quality.</p><p><br></p><p>Ashley shares her journey from manual tester to Director of Developer Experience, and explains why creating great engineering teams is about much more than tools: it’s about people, trust, learning, and feedback.</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Why developer experience is about enabling people, not just improving tooling</li><li>How psychological safety impacts collaboration, innovation, and delivery</li><li>Practical ways leaders can build trust and healthier engineering cultures</li><li>How teams can learn from failure without blame</li><li>Why feedback loops and continuous learning improve software quality</li><li>How to measure developer experience and connect it to business outcomes</li><li>Advice for engineers and testers looking to grow into leadership and advocacy roles</li></ul><p>The conversation also explores the role of empathy, communication, and human psychology in building stronger engineering organizations and better software.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resource recommendations from Ashley:</strong></p><ul><li>Lisa Crispin blog: <a href="https://lisacrispin.com/agile-testing-blog/"><u>https://lisacrispin.com/agile-testing-blog/</u></a> </li><li>Amy Edmondson - psychological safety research</li><li>Brené Brown - job crafting and values</li><li>Adam Grant - Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Ashley:</strong> </p><p>💼 LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyhunsberger/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyhunsberger/</u></a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow us on social:</strong></p><p>💼LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/engineeringquality/?viewAsMember=true"><u>Engineering Quality</u></a></p><p>🎥 YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringQuality"><u>@EngineeringQuality</u></a></p><p>🌐 Website:<a href="https://www.engineeringqualitypodcast.com"> <u>https://www.engineeringqualitypodcast.com</u></a></p><p>Email: <a href="mailto:engineeringqualitypodcast@gmail.com"><u>engineeringqualitypodcast@gmail.com</u></a></p><p><br></p>

May 6, 2026
19: Stop Being Ignored - Leadership Lessons for Testers with Keith Klain
<p>In this episode of Engineering Quality, Veronika, Ale, and Royalee are joined by testing leader and industry veteran Keith Klain to challenge one of the most persistent misconceptions in tech: that quality is owned by testing.</p><p><br></p><p>With over 25 years of experience leading global testing organizations, Keith shares a candid and deeply practical perspective on what testing really is—and what it isn’t. The conversation reframes testing as a risk management function, not just bug hunting, and explores how testers can elevate their impact by aligning with business goals and speaking the language of leadership. Together, they unpack what it takes to move from being seen as a bottleneck to becoming a strategic partner in delivering quality software.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Why testing is fundamentally about risk management, not just finding bugs</p></li><li><p>How testers can communicate value to executives and influence decision-making</p></li><li><p>The problem with traditional testing metrics and why they fail to drive real outcomes</p></li><li><p>Practical ways to reframe testing work in terms of business impact</p></li><li><p>Leadership principles that help testers grow into influential quality leaders</p></li><li><p>How to break down silos and build alignment across teams</p></li><li><p>Why understanding incentives (like compensation structures) is key to driving change</p></li><li><p>The reality behind test automation ROI and why many teams get it wrong</p></li><li><p>How AI is reshaping testing, and what skills will matter most going forward<br></p></li></ul><p>The episode also dives into the evolving role of testers in the age of AI, challenging the narrative that testing is becoming obsolete. Instead, Keith argues that strong testing fundamentals—critical thinking, risk analysis, and communication—are more valuable than ever.</p><p>If you’ve ever felt that testing is undervalued or misunderstood, this conversation offers a clear path to reframing your role, strengthening your influence, and leading quality from wherever you are.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Book recommendation</strong>: Rethinking Expertise by Harry Collins </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Keith: </strong></p><p>🌐 Website:<a href="https://crystalprestonwatson.com"><u> </u></a><a href="https://qualityremarks.com/"><u>https://qualityremarks.com/</u></a> </p><p>💼 LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithklain/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithklain/</u></a> </p><p>🎥 YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KeithKlain"><u>@KeithKlain</u></a></p><p><br></p>
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