What is it like to live life as a lawyer? That's what we're here to talk about.

Entering the Bar, with Liz Lash
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What is it like to live life as a lawyer? That's what we're here to talk about.
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March 16, 2020
“Vibing with DJ Esquire”: A Chat with Aaron Fischer, Datadog Commercial Counsel and ASF Legal Services Principal Attorney
“Just because you’re not wearing a suit, doesn’t mean you’re not working.” Aaron and I chat about how you don’t have to “look like a lawyer” to be one, and about his fascinating career path, which landed him at tech company Datadog, where he gets to work at a place that’s like “going to work in a spaceship.” Aaron began working as a DJ in his teens (kinda like the Beastie Boys!), later became a nightclub manager, and, during law school, interned at Atlantic Records—but later ended up in the tech world, courtesy of his background in intellectual property law. (Although, note, for you musicians out there, he does still provide legal advice to artists through his firm, ASF Legal Services.) We talk about risk, and why it’s important to take it both in your life and in your career, and how understanding it as a concept can help you better advise your clients; why you should learn to “speak the language” of your industry; and finally how—no matter the industry—relationships are everything. Plus—how entertainment companies are not always the bad guy, and why creative people need support so they can continue to do the important work — of creating. We also discuss how, to figure out the area of law in which you want to specialize, “be purposeful” in finding those people who are doing the work you want to do, in the industries in which you want to work. According to Aaron, even if it's cool to work with music artists, that shouldn’t be your only motivation…. Aaron also reminds us of some universal legal advice, a.k.a. what your parents likely told you growing up: everyone needs an attorney! And, of course, where would we be without a drinking story? I’ll give you a hint: it involves a 90 year-old’s birthday party, chance encounters on an airplane’s first class cabin, and Cash Cash, a popular EDM band best known for their hit Take Me Home. The music featured on this week's episode is “Entering the Bar Theme Music,” composed by Sam Carden for Entering the Bar®.

January 6, 2020
Business Shenanigans and the Tip of the Spear: A Conversation with Marc Minor, Financial Services Expert and Seton Hall Law Professor
On this episode, I chat with Marc Minor, who is a busy man—he is founder and president of CJM Consulting; serves as Marstone, Inc.’s Chief Compliance Officer; and is also an adjunct professor at Seton Hall’s law school! Marc is currently teaching a course that covers everything FinTech: robo-advisors, big data, AI, digital currency, cybersecurity, and more. We discuss Marc’s pivot from investigative journalism to law (thanks to a helpful journalism advisor) and his discovery that the law is “maybe the best tool ever” to “cast light” and “root out injustice.” To some degree, almost every role Marc has chosen has served to protect the individual and “root out injustice”—as well as develop his experience in “business shenanigan” lawyering, as he calls it (!). Marc first discovered his love of "business shenanigans" when he served as an associate in private practice at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP. From that point, Marc has worked to protect the investing public in a variety of roles: from bureau chief for the New York and New Jersey Attorney General’s offices, to enforcement director with the Philadelphia Stock Exchange, to senior counsel with FINRA, to Assistant Attorney General for the New York Attorney General. And before that, Marc specialized in criminal law at both the Ohio Attorney General’s office and the Ohio Public Defender’s office—whew! Marc and I chat about the transition from advising a client, to becoming the client (Marc likens it to “being shot out of a cannon”!). Marc also explains the process he used as a regulator to weigh enforcement actions, and the delicate balance involved between protecting the investing public—while ensuring continued market innovation. And what about when Marc is not wearing his “law hat”? Well, he turns on WBGO and get some creative writing in during the late night hours. (In fact, Marc wrote a children’s book in law school—between classes! Color me impressed.) We talk about how writing can be an “act of catharsis” and how, as writers, we decide what might “make the cut”; the slow road to improvement; and the necessity of developing humility (and a thick skin!) in the editing process. And since you’re listening to Entering the Bar, of course, Marc answers the most dangerous question of all—with diplomacy. Apparently after the bar, you should always “take your revelry to Dayton!” (Evidently, what happens in Dayton, stays in Dayton—at least during post-bar celebrations.) Marc also imparts some sage advice for would-be lawyers: don’t wake up your study partners in the middle of the night to talk about exams! And finally—and even more importantly: don’t be afraid to take opportunities that might initially appear to be “outside of your lane.” The music featured on this week's episode is “Entering the Bar Theme Music,” composed by Sam Carden for Entering the Bar®.

January 1, 2020
Liz's Legal Lyrical Literature: A Special Episode for the New Year
On this week’s episode, I welcome listeners to join me as we enter the New Year, with some legal poetry from yours truly, as well as my own updated spin on a poem entitled “Law and Poetry” by James Williams, a fellow lawyer-poet who practiced law and wrote poetry back in the 1880’s. (Hint: my own version contains a few references to “current” celebrities with legal training!) To read more poetry by Mr. Williams, you can find republication of his two works, “Briefless Ballads and Legal Lyrics” on Amazon and Project Gutenberg, and “Ventures in Verse,” also on Amazon and Project Gutenberg. To all of my listeners: may you have a happy, healthy, and productive 2020! The music featured on this week's episode is “Entering the Bar Theme Music,” composed by Sam Carden for Entering the Bar®.
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