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About Europa Felix
Europa Felix is an interview podcast for European law professionals and enthusiasts. Listen every once in a while to an inspiring conversation with a rising star, hidden genius or luminary in the field of European law. In English or in Dutch. Follow the show in your favourite podcast app and get new episodes as they become available. You can find transcripts on www.europafelix.eu.
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- Felix Ronkes Agerbeek
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- en
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- First episode
- 26 Aug 2022
- Latest episode
- 27 Aug 2026
Latest episodes
14 episodes in the feed.

27 Aug 2026
Het samenspel van Unierecht en privaatrecht | Berend Jan Drijber
Wat hebben een online hotelboeking, de prijs van een biertje, en een aandelenlease met elkaar gemeen? Het zijn allemaal situaties waarin het Unierecht kan doordringen in rechtsverhoudingen tussen private partijen. De invloed van Europese regels wordt heel concreet wanneer nationale rechters ze toepassen in civiele geschillen over contracten en schadevergoeding. Het nationale privaatrecht geeft het Unierecht zo handen en voeten, maar verandert daardoor zelf ook. Hoe pakt dat samenspel in de pr...

3 May 2026
Migration and the European Court of Human Rights | Eva Sevrin
The European Court of Human Rights has come under growing political pressure, with some political leaders claiming that its case law on migration should be “rebalanced” because it protects “the wrong people”. Not everyone embraces that rhetoric, but it is no longer coming only from the political fringes. This May, the 46 Member States of the Council of Europe are expected to adopt a joint political declaration on migration and the European Convention on Human Rights. In this episode, I ...

2 Jan 2026
Violence against women in the EU | Lisa Collste
Back in 2020, the European Commission launched its five-year Gender Equality Strategy. Its aim? To achieve a Europe “where gender-based violence, sex discrimination, and structural inequality between women and men are a thing of the past”. We're now in 2026. And it's fair to say there is still a great deal of work to be done. In a recent EU-wide survey, 1 in 3 women reported having experienced physical or sexual violence at some point in her life. Sit with that for a moment. One in three. Mu...

8 Jan 2025
The unseen influence of EU legal advisors | Päivi Leino-Sandberg
In this episode, I’m joined by Päivi Leino-Sandberg, professor of transnational European law at the University of Helsinki and author of ‘The Politics of Legal Expertise in EU Policy-Making’. Her book takes us behind the scenes of the EU institutions to uncover the role of legal advisors in shaping EU decisions and policies. That’s a reality I know well: in my day job—hosting a podcast is something I do off-duty—I am one of those legal advisors. So for me, Päivi’s work is not just about ...

13 Sept 2024
Mutual trust and Europe's crisis of values | Cecilia Rizcallah
In this episode we’re delving into a topic that sits at the heart of how EU law functions: the principle of mutual trust. Though it's a technical subject, it's deeply intertwined with the existential questions about what the EU is and aspires to be. The principle of mutual trust isn’t just a legal precept; it’s a litmus test for the health of European integration itself. Joining me is Cecilia Rizcallah. She is professor of European Law at the Brussels campus of UC Louvain and co-presiden...

12 Mar 2024
EU law is a wonderful machine | Daniel Sarmiento
My guest in this episode is Daniel Sarmiento. He is the editor in chief of EU Law Live, an online platform launched in 2020 that has taken the world of EU law by storm. But he’s also a lawyer and a professor whose academic writing is informed by his work as a legal practitioner. We talk about the creation of the Spanish Constitutional Court, about how the Court of Justice changes its mind, about ‘silent judgments’ and judicial minimalism, and about the impact of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. What ties all these different topics together, is a basic insight that underpins all of Sarmiento's work, namely that law is made of practice, not of theory. Mentioned: EU Law Live: https://eulawlive.com (https://eulawlive.com) D. Sarmiento and M. Beltrán, Un Tribunal para la Constitución (documentary) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzw0EplI97w) D. Sarmiento, ‘The “overruling technique” at the Court of Justice of the European Union’, European Journal of Legal Studies, 2023 (https://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/76142) D. Sarmiento, ‘The Silent Lamb and the Deaf Wolves: The Role of Silent Judgments in EU Law’, in Constitutional Pluralism in the European Union and Beyond, Hart 2011 C. Sunstein, One Case At A Time: Judicial Minimalism on the Supreme Court, Harvard University Press 1999 D. Sarmiento, ‘Half a case at a time: dealing with judicial minimalism at the European Court of Justice’, in: Constitutional conversations in Europe, Intersentia 2012 D. Sarmiento, ‘Who’s Afraid of the Charter?’, Common Market Law Review 2013 (https://doi.org/10.54648/cola2013132) J.H.H. Weiler, ‘Does the European Union Truly Need a Charter of Rights?’, European Law Journal, June 2000 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-0386.00098) D. Sarmiento and J.H.H. Weiler, ‘The EU Judiciary After Weiss: Proposing A New Mixed Chamber of the Court of Justice’, Verfassungsblog, 2 June 2020 (https://verfassungsblog.de/the-eu-judiciary-after-weiss/) Keck (C-267/91) Metock (C-127/08) Link Logistic (C-384/17) & NE (C-205/20) Diego Porras (C-596/14) & Grupo Norte (C-527/16) HAG I (192/73) & HAG II (C-10/89) Taricco (C-105/14) & M.A.S. and M.B. (C-42/17) Centraal Israëlitische Consistorie van België (C-336/19) Ruiz Zambrano (C-34/09) Åkerberg Fransson (C-617/10) Melloni (C-399/11) Recommended: Bob Woodward and Scott Armstrong, The Brethren: Inside the Supreme Court Jürgen Habermas, Between Facts and Norms Poems by Antonio Machado Comments? Guest suggestions? Email me at felix@europafelix.eu.

24 Dec 2023
Is the Superleague judgment a game changer? | Miguel Poiares Maduro
On 21 December, the Court of Justice of the European Union delivered three high profile rulings in the field of sports: Superleague, International Skating Union and Royal Antwerp Football Club. Earlier this year, I spoke to Miguel Poiares Maduro about EU law and sports. So I decided to call him up to ask if he could give us his take on these three recent judgments. Enjoy this bonus episode of Europa Felix! Mentioned: Case C-333/21 European Superleague Company (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62021CJ0333) Case C-124/21 International Skating Union (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62021CJ0124) Case C-680/21 Royal Antwerp Football Club (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62021CJ0680) Judgment of the European Court of Human Rights (Third Section) in Semenya v Switzerland (11 July 2023) (https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng-press?i=003-7701636-10631196) With special thanks to Aurelia Leeuw. Comments? Guest suggestions? Email me at felix@europafelix.eu

22 Aug 2023
Hoe de EU de Brexit onderhandelde | Stefaan De Rynck
Deze aflevering gaat over de Brexit-onderhandelingen. Nu het Verenigd Koninkrijk geen lidstaat meer is van de EU, vormen twee verdragen het fundament van de relatie tussen de EU en het Verenigd Koninkrijk: het Terugtrekkingsakkoord, onderhandeld tussen 2017 en 2019, en de Handels- en Samenwerkingsovereenkomst, onderhandeld in 2020. In 2020 maakte ik deel uit van het UK Task Force van Michel Barnier en ik denk soms met verbazing terug aan wat er in dat ene jaar allemaal gebeurde. De geladen sfeer in de onderhandelingen. Het politieke spektakel. De persconferenties. De vergaderingen tot diep in de nacht. De onderhandelingssessies tijdens de COVID-lockdowns. Iemand die er al vanaf het begin bij was — als naaste adviseur van Barnier — is Stefaan De Rynck. En hij heeft er een boek over geschreven: “Inside the Deal: How the EU Got Brexit Done”. In dat boek beschrijft hij de Brexit-onderhandelingen vanuit het EU-perspectief en analyseert hij de misvattingen die er destijds bestonden aan de zijde van het VK. Ik interview hem over zijn boek en samen kijken we terug op deze verbijsterende periode uit de Europese integratiegeschiedenis. Genoemd: Stefaan De Rynck, Inside the Deal: How the EU got Brexit done (2023) (https://cup.columbia.edu/book/a/9781788215688) A New Settlement for the UK within the EU (2016) (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:52016XG0223(01)) Akkoord inzake de Terugtrekking (2019) (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:C:2019:384I:FULL) Handels- en Samenwerkingsovereenkomst (2021) (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2021.149.01.0010.01.ENG) The Windsor Framework (2023) (https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/relations-non-eu-countries/relations-united-kingdom/eu-uk-withdrawal-agreement/protocol-ireland-and-northern-ireland_en) Aanbevelingen: Marcella Hazan, Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/nl/boeken/9780593534328/essentials-of-classic-italian-cooking-30th-anniversary-edition) Alan Milward, The European Rescue of the Nation State (https://www.routledge.com/The-European-Rescue-of-the-Nation-State/Milward/p/book/9780415216296) Fintan O'Toole, Heroic Failure: Brexit and the politics of pain (https://www.libeurop.eu/shop/product/9781789540987-heroic-failure-brexit-and-the-politics-of-pain-646038?search=heroic+failure) Vragen? Opmerkingen? Gastsuggesties? Schrijf naar felix@europafelix.eu.

27 Jul 2023
Kunnen rechters het klimaat beschermen? | Dennis van Berkel
In deze aflevering gaat het over klimaatrechtszaken tegen de Staat: juridische procedures om overheden ertoe te dwingen de klimaatcrisis het hoofd te bieden. De voorloper van dit soort procedures is de zaak van Stichting Urgenda tegen de Nederlandse Staat. Maar inmiddels zijn er wereldwijd tientallen vergelijkbare zaken gevoerd. Er is nu ook een eerste lichting klimaatzaken aanhangig bij het Europees Hof voor de Rechten van de Mens. De grote vraag in al deze zaken is: zal het Hof een schending vaststellen van het EVRM en zal het op die manier overheden in Europa verplichten om meer te doen tegen klimaatverandering? Te gast is Dennis van Berkel. Hij is Legal Counsel van Stichting Urgenda, was destijds nauw betrokken bij de Urgenda zaak en is mede-oprichter van het Climate Litigation Network, een expertise-netwerk dat mensen en organisaties over de hele wereld aanmoedigt en helpt bij het voeren van klimaatzaken. We beginnen ons gesprek natuurlijk bij de Urgenda-uitspraak, maar we hebben het ook over andere zaken binnen en buiten Europa. We spreken over de invloed van klimaatzaken, over de rolverdeling tussen de rechter en de politiek, en over het klimaatbeleid in Nederland en in de EU. Bovendien vraag ik hem wat Europees recht-juristen kunnen doen om hun steen bij te dragen aan het aanpakken van de klimaatcrisis. Genoemd: Klimaatzaak Urgenda (https://www.rechtspraak.nl/Bekende-rechtszaken/klimaatzaak-urgenda) Kelderluik-arrest (https://deeplink.rechtspraak.nl/uitspraak?id=ECLI:NL:HR:1965:AB7079) Kalimijnen-arrest (https://deeplink.rechtspraak.nl/uitspraak?id=ECLI:NL:HR:1988:AD5713) Climate Case Ireland (https://www.courts.ie/view/judgments/681b8633-3f57-41b5-9362-8cbc8e7d9215/981c098a-462b-4a9a-9941-5d601903c9af/2020_IESC_49.pdf/pdf) BVerfG, Klimaschutz (Luisa Neubauer-zaak) (https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/DE/2021/03/rs20210324_1bvr265618.html) European Scientific Advisory Board on Climate Change, Scientific advice for the determination of an EU-wide 2040 climate target and a greenhouse gas budget for 2030–2050 (https://climate-advisory-board.europa.eu/reports-and-publications/scientific-advice-for-the-determination-of-an-eu-wide-2040) EHRM, Verein KlimaSeniorinnen Schweiz and Others v. Switzerland (53600/20) EHRM, Carême v. France (7189/21) Conseil d’État, Commune de Grande-Synthe (N° 427301) (https://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/arianeweb/CE/decision/2021-07-01/427301) EHRM, Duarte Agostinho and Others v. Portugal and 32 Others (39371/20) The Climate Litigation Network (https://www.urgenda.nl/en/themas/climate-case/global-climate-litigation/) Global Trends in Climate Change Litigation: 2023 snapshot (London School of Economics) (https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/publication/global-trends-in-climate-change-litigation-2023-snapshot/) Climate Change Litigation Database (Columbia Law School, Sabin Center) (http://climatecasechart.com) Aanbevelingen: Greta Thunberg, Het Klimaatboek Friederieke Otto, Angry Weather Mariana Mazzucato, Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism Deze aflevering bevat geluidsfragmenten uit de webcasts van de hoorzittingen in Carème t. Frankrijk en Verein KlimaSeniorinnen t. Zwitserland. Je hoort achtereenvolgens: Diego Colas (voor Frankrijk), Jessica Simor (voor Verein KlimaSeniorinnen), Alain Chablais (voor Zwitserland), Catherine Donnelly (voor Ierland); Jessica Simor; Corinne Lepage (voor Damien Carème); en Síofra O'Leary (President van het Hof). Bron: https://www.echr.coe.int/webcasts-of-hearin (https://www.echr.coe.int/webcasts-of-hearings)

25 May 2023
Can EU law save European football? | Miguel Poiares Maduro
In his book 'Postwar' the historian Tony Judt wrote of the ‘largely un-European mental universe of most Europeans’. Yet, he also identified one ubiquitous exception: sports – and especially football, ‘a game without frontiers, for players, managers and spectators alike’. He even wrote: ‘What really united Europe, is football.’ Whether or not that’s true, it’s hard to deny that sports are a major part of social and economic life in Europe. How sport is governed, how it is regulated and by whom, is a question that is worth taking seriously. And it’s a question on which EU law has something to say. There is a modest amount of case-law from the European Court of Justice on sports and there are several more cases currently pending: the Royal Antwerp Football Club-case, the International Skating Union-case and, of course, the Super League-case. My guest in this episode definitely takes football seriously. His name is Miguel Poiares Maduro. He’s an academic and political commentator, a former minister in the Portuguese government, a former member of the European Court of Justice, and an incurable fan of football. He recently wrote an essay called ‘EU Law and Sports: A Match Made in Hell or in Heaven?’ The essay draws on his expertise as an EU constitutional lawyer, on his acuity as an observer of political institutions, and on his personal experience as Chair of the Governance Committee of FIFA. He argues that the way in which European football is governed today needs to change and that the European Union is best placed to bring international sports organisations in line with principles of democracy and good governance. We talk about the European Model of Sports. About the Super League case. About the conflicts of interest that currently plague sports governance bodies. And about the Court of Arbitration for Sport. I ask him what he thinks the EU should do, and why he believes that discussing sports governance can help us gain a deeper insight in the soul of European integration. Mentioned: Miguel Poiares Maduro, 'EU Law and Sports: A Match Made in Hell or in Heaven?', in: Adams-Prassl and others (eds.), The Internal Market Ideal: Essays in Honour of Stephen Weatherill, Oxford University Press 2024 (https://academic.oup.com/book/55899) Stephen Weatherill, Never let a good fiasco go to waste: why and how the governance of European football should be reformed after the demise of the ‘SuperLeague’ (http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2021/04/never-let-good-fiasco-go-to-waste-why.html) Tony Judt, Postwar: A history of Europe since 1945 Case C-415/93 Jean-Marc Bosman and others (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61993CJ0415) Case C-333/21 European Superleague Company v UEFA and FIFA Case C-680/21 SA Royal Antwerp Football Club Case C-124/21 P International Skating Union v Commission ECtHR, Mutu and Pechstein v Switzerland (40575/10 and 67474/10) (https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-186828) Book recommendations: Neil K. Komesar, Imperfect Alternatives: Choosing Institutions in Law, Economics and Public Policy (https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/author/K/N/au5844470.html) J.H.H. Weiler, The Constitution of Europe: 'Do the new clothes have an emperor' and other essays on European integration (https://www.cambridge.org/gb/academic/subjects/law/european-law/constitution-europe-do-new-clothes-have-emperor-and-other-essays-european-integration) Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Justiz (The Execution of Justice) (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/598225/the-execution-of-justice-by-friedrich-durrenmatt/#) Comments? Guest suggestions? Email me at felix@europafelix.eu

24 Apr 2023
Unierecht is nationaal recht | Koen Lenaerts & Piet Van Nuffel
In deze aflevering spreek ik met misschien wel het beroemdste schrijversduo in het EU-recht: Koen Lenaerts en Piet Van Nuffel. Beiden zijn professor aan de KU Leuven. Ze zijn ook allebei sleutelfiguren in de Europese rechtspraktijk. Piet Van Nuffel is senior expert bij de Juridische Dienst van de Europese Commissie. Koen Lenaerts is de President van het Hof van Justitie van de Europese Unie. Samen verzorgen ze al decennia lang één van de klassieke handboeken over het Europees recht: de vuistdikke ‘Lenaerts & Van Nuffel’. Op het eerste gezicht is dat een typisch ‘black letter law’ boek, een zorgvuldige beschrijving en systematisering van het Unierecht. Maar als je beter kijkt, zie je dat er al vanaf de allereerste druk een visie achter het boek schuilt: een visie van het EU-recht als grondwettelijk recht dat integraal deel uitmaakt van het nationaal recht. De Engelse zuster-editie van het boek verscheen zelfs van meet af aan onder de titel ‘Constitutional law of the European Union’. In het Nederlands heet het boek simpelweg ‘Europees recht’. De nieuwe editie is pas verschenen. Een mooie aanleiding om eens met beide auteurs aan tafel te gaan zitten. Ik vraag ze hoe hun jarenlange samenwerking is begonnen. We spreken over de constitutionele verdieping van de Unie, over democratische legitimiteit, en over het belang van nationale rechters én advocaten in het Europese rechtssysteem. Stuk voor stuk grote thema’s en er passeren dan ook allerlei onderwerpen de revue in dit dubbelgesprek: het Coman-arrest over erkenning van het huwelijk tussen mensen van hetzelfde geslacht, Jürgen Habermas en het idee van ‘deliberatieve democratie’, het belang van het Erasmus-programma, en zelfs de Griekse revolutie van 1821. Genoemd: Koen Lenaerts & Piet Van Nuffel, Europees Recht (zevende editie), 2023 (https://www.larcier-intersentia.com/nl/europees-recht-zevende-editie-studenteneditie-9789400014572.html) Koen Lenaerts, Piet Van Nuffel, Tim Corthaut, EU Constitutional Law, 2022 (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/eu-constitutional-law-9780198866527?cc=us&lang=en&) Zaak C-673/16 Coman (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62016CJ0673) Zaak C-561/19 Consorzio Italian Management (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62019CJ0561) United States Supreme Court, Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U.S. 644 (2015) (https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/576/14-556/case.pdf) Justitieel Netwerk van de Europese Unie (https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/p1_2170125/nl/) Aanbevelingen: J.J. Voskuil, Het Bureau-reeks (https://www.standaardboekhandel.be/c/reeks/het-bureau-38193258?filter=OrderableSB.eq.true&page=1&page_size=24&sort=RelevanceSb&sort_type=desc) Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/nl/boeken/9780571322732/remains-of-the-day-faber-modern-classics) Mark Schaevers, Orgelman (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/nl/boeken/9789023498629/orgelman) Ian Kershaw, To Hell and Back & The Global Age (The Penguin History of Europe Series) (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/PHE/the-penguin-history-of-europe) Mark Mazower, The Greek Revolution: 1821 and the Making of Modern Europe (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/316555/the-greek-revolution-by-mark-mazower/) Anu Bradford, The Brussels Effect (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-brussels-effect-9780190088583?cc=us&lang=en&) Ideeën? Gastsuggesties? Stuur een email naar: felix@europafelix.eu

30 Mar 2023
A Realist’s take on EU law | Tamara Ćapeta
My guest in this episode is Tamara Ćapeta, Advocate General at the European Court of Justice and law professor at the University of Zagreb. Our main topic of conversation is legal realism, a topic on which she has written several academic articles. It’s tempting to misconstrue legal realism as a cynical, 'anything goes'-approach to the law. But in Ćapeta‘s writings and in this interview, legal realism emerges as a form of judicial modesty. She argues that the idea that legal questions have a single, correct answer is basically a myth, and hat courts would gain credibility if judges acknowledged more openly that their legal decisions are choices, instead of objective truths. I ask her what it’s like to be Advocate General and if it has changed her perspective on judicial decision-making. We talk about legal reasoning and objectivity. We discuss if artificial intelligence can replace judges. We talk about transparency in court rulings, about whether the Court of Justice should allow dissenting opinions, and about imagining different realities — in law and in science fiction. Mentioned: T. Ćapeta, ‘Ideology and Legal Reasoning at the Court of Justice’, in: Ćapeta and Rodin (eds.), The Transformation of Reconstitution of Europe, 2018. (https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/transformation-or-reconstitution-of-europe-9781509939558/) T. Ćapeta, ‘Do Judicial Decision-Making and Quantum Mechanics Have Anything in Common? A Contribution to Realist Theories of Adjudication at the CJEU’, in: Belov (ed.), The Role of Courts in Contemporary Legal Orders, 2019. (https://www.elevenpub.com/en/product/100-12372_The-Role-of-Courts-in-Contemporary-Legal-Orders) N. Bačić Selanec and T. Ćapeta, ‘The Rule of Law and Adjudication of the Court of Justice of the European Union’, in: Ćapeta, Goldner Lang and Perišin (eds.), The Changing European Union, 2022. (https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/changing-european-union-9781509937349/) T. Ćapeta, ‘Of Judges and Robots’, in: Pavliha and others, Izzivi prava v življenjski resničnosti: Liber amicorum Marko Ilešič, 2017. (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3109512) Case 59/85 Reed (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61985CJ0059) Case 41/74 Van Duyn v Home Office (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61974CJ0041) Case 91/92 Faccini Dori v Recreb (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61992CJ0091) Book recommendations: Liu Cixin, The Three-Body Problem trilogy Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas Special thanks to Alessandro Spina, Jacco Bomhoff and Mislav Mataija. Comments? Guest suggestions? Email me at felix@europafelix.eu.

25 Oct 2022
What's left of the law of integration? | Julio Baquero Cruz
My guest for this episode is Julio Baquero Cruz — novelist, translator, professor of EU law, and member of the Legal Service of the Commission. In 2018 he published a book called ‘What’s left of the law integration?’ in which he observes that the European Union is going through a difficult period, a traversée du désert. He describes the waning of the initial impetus behind European integration and a resurgence of the idea that the nation state is the ultimate political unit. He notices signs of decline in European law, even signs of disintegration. But the book is not defeatist. He also describes acts of resistance, especially in the case-law of the Court of Justice. More importantly, he encourages us to look again at the beginnings of the law of integration to find new meaning for European law today. Julio's book combines philosophical contemplation with legal-technical detail, and so does my conversation with him. We talk about one of the founding fathers of the law of integration, Pierre Pescatore. We discuss political speeches, from Thatcher to Merkel to Scholz. We take a deep dive into the Weiss judgment of the German Constitutional Court. We talk about the theory that European integration was mainly a means of ‘rescuing’ the nation state. And finally, I ask him how we can reclaim the law of integration. Mentioned: Julio Baquero Cruz, What’s Left of the Law of Integration?, Oxford University Press 2018 (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/whats-left-of-the-law-of-integration-9780198830610?cc=us&lang=en&) Julio Baquero Cruz, Karlsruhe and its Discontents, EUI Working Paper, 2022 (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4151675) Pierre Pescatore, Le Droit de l’Intégration: émergence d’un phénomène nouveau dans les relations internationales (1972) Walter Benjamin, Theses on the Philosophy of History (1940) Alan Milward, The European Rescue of the Nation State (1992) (https://www.routledge.com/The-European-Rescue-of-the-Nation-State/Milward/p/book/9780415216296) Margeret Thatcher, Speech at the College of Europe (1988) (https://www.coleurope.eu/events/opening-ceremony-bruges-campus-18) Angela Merkel, Speech at the College of Europe (2010) (https://www.coleurope.eu/events/mrs-angela-merkel-delivered-opening-address-opening-ceremony) Olaf Scholz, Europe is our future, Speech at Charles University Prague (2022) (https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/scholz-speech-prague-charles-university-2080752) C-62/14 Gauweiler (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62014CJ0062) C-493/17 Weiss (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62017CJ0493) BVerfG Gauweiler (2016) (https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/e/rs20160621_2bvr272813en.html) BVerfG Weiss (2020) (https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/e/rs20200505_2bvr085915en.html) BVerfG Lissabon (2009) (https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/e/es20090630_2bve000208en.html) BVerfG Maastricht (1993) (https://iow.eui.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2013/04/06-Von-Bogdandy-German-Federal-Constitutional-Court.pdf) BVerfG Honeywell (2010) (https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/e/rs20100706_2bvr266106en.html) Book recommendations: V.S. Naipaul, The Enigma of Arrival (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/en/boeken/9781529013047/the-enigma-of-arrival) W.G. Sebald, The Rings of Saturn (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/en/boeken/9781784876753/the-rings-of-saturn) Olga Tokarczuk, Flights (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/en/boeken/9781910695821/flights) Comments? Guest suggestions? Email me at felix@europafelix.eu.

26 Aug 2022
EU recht als een creatief proces | Pauline Phoa
In deze aflevering spreek ik met Pauline Phoa, docent Europees Recht aan de Universiteit Utrecht, kunstenaar, en auteur van het boek ‘EU Law as a Creative Process’, dat onlangs werd bekroond met de dissertatieprijs van het Praemium Erasmianum. In dat boek neemt ze arresten van het Hof van Justitie onder de loep over Europees burgerschap en over databescherming. Maar eigenlijk gaat haar boek niet over burgerschap of databescherming, maar over de diepere lagen in de argumentatie en het taalgebruik van het Hof. In een recent interview zei Phoa: ‘Het recht kan op allerlei, meer of minder subtiele manieren medeplichtig zijn bij het in stand houden van onrecht: soms wordt aan de oppervlakte wel gesproken over mensenrechten, maar dragen de diepere lagen in argumentatie en taalgebruik toch nog bij aan onderdrukking of ontkenning.’ In het gesprek dat ik met haar heb, gaan we hier dieper op in. We hebben het over hoe het juridisch ambacht onlosmakelijk verweven is met taal, en hoe taalgebruik onlosmakelijk verweven is met ethiek. We hebben het over het Dano-arrest en over de ‘eigen stem’ van het Hof. Over haar ervaringen als medewerkster bij het Gerecht van de Europese Unie. Over het feit dat er geen echte opleiding bestaat voor referendarissen. Over de Moeders van Srebrenica. Over hoe mooi èn nutteloos het werk van Dworkin is. En ze legt uit hoe je, door te leren tekenen, kan groeien als jurist. Genoemd: Pauline Phoa, EU Law as a Creative Process. A hermeneutic approach for the EU internal market and fundamental rights protection, Europa Law Publishing 2021 (https://www.europalawpublishing.com/101-66_EU-Law-as-a-Creative-Process) C-184/99 Grzelczyk (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61999CJ0184) C-333/13 Dano (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62013CJ0333) C-58/96 Martinez Sala (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:61996CJ0085) C-131/12 Google Spain (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62012CJ0131) C-293/12 & C-594/12 Digital Rights Ireland (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62012CJ0293) C-67/14 Alimanovic (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62014CJ0067) C-299/14 García-Nieto (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62014CJ0299) C-308/14 Commissie/Verenigd Koninkrijk (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62014CJ0308) EHRM, Stichting Mothers of Srebrenica and Others v the Netherlands, 65542/12 (https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-122255) Aanbevelingen: Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/nl/boeken/9780099598169/zen-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance) Ernst F. Schumacher, Small is Beautiful. A Study of Economics as if People Mattered (https://www.passaportabookshop.be/en/boeken/9780099225614/small-is-beautiful) Betty Edwards, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (https://www.drawright.com/bettys-books) Met dank aan Jacco Bomhoff voor zijn hulp bij de voorbereiding van deze aflevering. Ideeën? Gastsuggesties? Stuur een email naar: felix@europafelix.eu (mailto:felix@europafelix.eu)
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