Weekly Livestreams on YouTube on Wed nights at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific with hosts Ashley Swearengin and @UnconventionalPastorPaul, Paul Swearengin. She served as mayor of a city, Paul was an evangelical pastor. Together, they were deep in the middle of the rise of Christian nationalism.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
The UpsideDown: If MTG Can Change: Can MAGA Christians Repent?
The world is now the UPSIDE DOWN! On this episode, Paul & Ashley look into a world of "Stranger Things," — where Marjorie Taylor Greene apologizes on CNN, renounces Trump, admits there’s no “4-D chess,” and says she’s leaving Congress because she can’t help people from inside the chaos.
Is this real change? A political shift? A crack in the MAGA universe?
And the big question: CAN MAGA REPENT?!
Could MAGA Christians hear this and actually reconsider their loyalty to Trump, Republican extremism, and MAGA evangelicalism?
We explore:
✨ Repentance as a change of mind, not a magic prayer
✨ Nicodemus, Zaccheus, and biblical examples of unexpected transformation
✨ Why some hearts soften… while others harden
✨ Whether MTG could become the wake-up call no one expected
Join the conversation; step with us into the Upside Down and see if Stranger Things can happen.
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12 Nov 2025TRANSCRIPT
Separation of Church and... Hate? A Conversation with John Fugelsang
John Fugelsang, author of Separation of Church and Hate, brings a sacred conversation that reminds us that Christian nationalism isn’t faith — it’s idolatry dressed in red, white, and blue. It’s what happens when people trade in the Jesus who washed feet for the one who waves a flag.
We'll talk about race and power, about the political machine that turned love into leverage, and about what it means to still believe in the way of Jesus — not the empire built in his name. Somewhere between laughter and lament, we can all admit we’re angry - because we still care. That anger isn’t sin — it’s sacred energy waiting to be transformed. And, rooted in love, might just be the beginning of healing.
✝️💥 Faith doesn’t have to be weaponized. Let’s separate Church and Hate — together.
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20 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
🎙️ Flex Your Spiritual Inspo 🕊️ A Sacred Show-and-Tell of the Soul
🎙️ Flex Your Spiritual Inspo
🕊️ A Sacred Show-and-Tell of the Soul
Description:
In a world where deconstruction often centers what we no longer believe, this episode flips the script. What’s still inspiring your spirit? What stirs your soul awake in this season of life?
Ashley and Paul (aka Unconventional Pastor Paul) invite each other—and you—to “flex your spiritual inspo.” Whether it’s a quote, a ritual, a verse, a song, a breeze, a beetle, or a full-on mystical experience, it counts. We’re sharing what’s nourishing us spiritually today and asking you to do the same. Deconstruction doesn't mean disconnection. Let's reconnect with wonder, beauty, and sacred breadcrumbs.
Come as you are—curious, skeptical, mystical, or all three—and bring your own sacred inspiration to the table.
Inside a recent episode
Separation of Church and... Hate? A Conversation with John Fugelsang
Published 12 Nov 2025 · Transcript excerpt
[…] Yeah. So I have been very comfortable with the contradictions of organized religion and spirituality in my entire life. And the Holy Trinity in my house growing up was Gandhi, Dorothy Day of Catholic Charities and the Catholic worker movement and Dr. King. Um, my father was deep into Christ's actual words and actual teachings about how we're supposed to treat each other. Um, never belong to a political party. I've never belonged to a political party. Um, I don't really know what, I haven't seen the Republicans do anything that has any semblance of the teachings of Jesus in a very long time. I mean, I'm trying to think of when the Republicans have put non -millionaires first and the most recent thing I can think of is Nixon and the earned income tax credit. […]
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