Every Part of Us

About Every Part of Us

This podcast is for everyone who wants to understand what helps couples thrive and what can go wrong, for therapists and those wanting to improve their relationships. Schema Couples Therapy provides a unique way of understanding how couples get stuck in bad patterns and some beautiful tools to help couples connect and thrive. We will be interviewing experts on topics such as couples and affairs, addictions, enmeshment and how to use schema therapy to formulate and work with these issues. We will also be asking the expert to demonstrate how they work. New episodes every fortnight.

Publisher

Ruth Holt and Ruth McCutcheon

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

7 Dec 2025

Latest episode

21 May 2026

Latest episodes

12 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   21 May 2026

   What does the research say? with Gery Karanzas

   Professor Gery Karanzas reflects upon where the current evidence base sits for Schema Therapy for Couples and key further developments required to help the growth of the model. Professor Gery Karanzas reflects upon where the current evidence base sits for Schema Therapy for Couples and key further developments required to help the growth of the model. Gery Karanzas is is a Professor in the School of Psychology, couples therapist, and Director of the Science of Adult Relationships (SoAR) Laboratory at Deakin University. He is one of Australia’s leading relationships experts and has been delivering workshops, seminars and lectures in relationship science to the general public, graduate and undergraduate students, and professionals for over a decade. Gery is the past national convenor of the Australian Psychological Society (APS) Psychology of Relationships Interest Group. He has edited and authored over 150 publications including the Wiley-Blackwell Handbook of Couples and Family Relationships (co-edited with Pat Noller) and Adult Attachment: A Concise Introduction to Theory and Research (co-authored with Omri Gillath and R. Chris Fraley). For more information about Gery’swork go to https://relationshipscienceonline.com For more information about the series andtraining go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

2. 

   5 May 2026

   Imagery Re-scripting with couples with Poul Perris

   One of the most powerful and effective tools for gealing and change in Schema Therapy is Imagery Re-scripting. But how does this work with couples? Poul Perris talks us throughhow to create a safe space for Re-scripting, how Imagery works and then demonstrates using Imagery Re-scripting to build connection, understanding and empathy with a couple. Poul Perris, MD is the director of the Swedish Institute for CBT & Schema Therapy located in Stockholm, Sweden. The institute is a private training centre with University status that offers psychotherapy training programs at various professional levels, combined with a clinical outpatient setting. Poul served as the President of the Swedish CBT association from 2010-2016 and has contributed to making SchemaTherapy an integral part of national mental health services in Sweden. Poul has been teaching and supervising cognitivebehavioral therapists and schema therapists internationally for over a decade. He is a certified schema therapy trainer for both individual and couples and hisI nstitute has been offering ISST approved training for certification since 2005. Poul specializes in the treatment of personality disorders, and in couples therapy for complex relational problems. Poul has co-authored a handbook on Schema Therapy in Swedish, as well as several book chapters on working with couples and core emotional needs. Poul is committed to bring ingSchema Therapy to theattention of the general public and, to this end, has been involved in several productions for Swedish National Television that promote the schema therapists understanding of the centrality of core emotional needs, what happens when theyare not met, and the schema mode model. In 2012 he treated 6 authentic couples with ST-C. All sessions were filmed and later edited into 6 episodes that were aired on Swedish National TV. For more information about Poul’s work go to https://cbti.se/kunskap/medarbetare/poul-perris/ For more information about the series and training go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

3. 

   21 Apr 2026

   Using chairs in Schema Couples Therapy with Dr Eckhart Roediger

   One of the strangest and most powerful elements in SchemaCouples Therapy is chairwork. Putting parts of self in chairs and standing above those chairs provides an opportunity for empathy, seeing the self differently and allowing for change. But how does it work? Eckhart walks through the neuroscience as well as demonstrating how to work with a couple using chairs. Dr Eckhart Roediger is a specialist in Neurology, Psychiatry andPsychotherapy and Psychotherapeutic Medicine. Since 2007 he has been working in private practice in Frankfurt and as a lecturer and supervisor for behavior therapy and schema therapy. He also holds teaching positions in Cologne and the Kath. Stiftungsfachhochschule in Munich. Since June 2008 he isthe first fully licensed Schema Therapist in Germany and member of the founding board of ISST, founded and director of the Institute for Schema Therapy-Frankfurt (IST-F). Eckhart has served as a member of the ISST Board since 2008, past-President and now honorary member. For more information about Eckhart’s work and training goto https://www.schematherapy-roediger.org (https://www.schematherapy-roediger.org) For more information about the series andtraining go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not beenconsidered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

4. 

   7 Apr 2026

   What do you want? Starting Schema Couples Therapy with Professor David Edwards

   Professor Dave Edwards talks to us about how to establish shared goals with a couple and create a good therapy alliance at the outset of sessions. He also gives a practical demonstration of how to help couples align together on the kind of connection they want from Schema Couples Therapy. David Edwards is a Professor Emeritus at Rhodes University, South Africa where he was involved in the professional training of clinical and counselling psychologists from 1980 to 2009. He was fortunate to be connected to the beginnings of schema therapy when he attended seminars with Jeffrey Young while training in cognitive therapy at the University of Pennsylvania in 1984. His enthusiasm was refreshed when, at a conference in Barcelona in 2007, he met Arnoud Arntz, one of the leaders in the Dutch group and attended a workshop presented by him the following year. He joined the newly formed International Society for Schema Therapy (ISST) and is certified as a schema therapist and trainer in individual ST and in ST for couples. He was President of the International Society for Schema Therapy for two terms from 2016-2020. Now retired and working part time for the University, he conducts and publishes research on aspects of psychotherapy and supervises research students. For more information about Dave’s work go tohttps://stisa.org.za/about/david-edwards/ For more information about the series and training go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ The goals for couples handout is available at:https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

5. 

   24 Mar 2026

   Catching the Bullets: Working with high conflict couples with Travis Atkinson

   Why do some couples stay stuck in the same fight for years? How does Schema Couples Therapy help couples unhook from a cycle of blaming each other to find healing? Travis gets candid about what it's like to work with his conflict couples and how to build connection. Travis Atkinson, a pioneering figure in the field of schema therapy, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) and Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker (LICSW) with nearly 30 years of experience in therapy and couples therapy, and is the founder and director of the Schema Therapy Training Center of New York. Having collaborated closely with Jeffrey Young (also known as Jeff Young), the esteemed founder of schema therapy, Travis made significant contributions tothe early stages and evolution of Schema Therapy for Couples. Driven by a commitment to excellence and a desire to empower therapists with the knowledge and skills of schema therapy, Travis established the Schema Therapy Training Center of New York. With a focus on providing high-quality training programs, the center serves as a hub for professionals seeking to deepen their understanding and practice of schema therapy training online toward certification. Under Travis’s leadership, thecenter has gained recognition as a premier institution for schema therapy training, attracting participants from around the world who seek to enhance their therapeutic effectiveness and positively impact their clients’ lives. Travis Atkinson is a co-author of the latest schema mode therapy inventory (SMI) andhas authored works on schema therapy for couples, including a chapter in the Handbook of Schema Therapy and contributions to Creative Methods in Schema Therapy, reflecting his broader role as an author and trainer at the Schema Therapy Training Center. His role as a co-author and contributor to theseauthoritative handbooks and resources further establishes his expertise and leadership in the field. For more information about Travis’ work go to https://schematherapytraining.us/travis-atkinson/ (https://schematherapytraining.us/travis-atkinson/) For more information about the series andtraining go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide isinformational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide thisinformation for your general use only. Your personal situation has not beenconsidered when providing the information, so any reliance on this informationis at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professionaladvice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified tomaintain confidentiality.

6. 

   11 Mar 2026

   Mining Vulnerability with Couples: A Schema Therapy Session with Dr Poul Perris

   In this real-time demonstration of a therapy session, we see Poul Perris help a couple connect to the pain underneath their decade’s long relationship struggles. Poul Perris, MD is the director of the Swedish Institute for CBT & Schema Therapy located in Stockholm,Sweden. The institute is a private training center with University status that offers psychotherapy training programs at various professional levels, combined with a clinical outpatient setting. Poul served as the President of the Swedish CBT association from 2010-2016 and has contributed to making SchemaTherapy an integral part of national mental health services in Sweden. Poul has been teaching and supervising cognitivebehavioral therapists and schema therapists internationally for over a decade.He is a certified schema therapy trainer for both individual and couples and his Institute has been offering ISST approved training for certification since 2005. Poul specializes in the treatment of personality disorders, and in couples therapy for complex relational problems. Poul has co-authored a handbook on Schema Therapy in Swedish, as well as several bookchapters on working with couples and core emotional needs. Poul is committed to bring ingSchema Therapy to theattention of the general public and, to this end, has been involved in several productions for Swedish National Television that promote the schema therapists understanding of the centrality of core emotional needs, what happens when theyare not met, and the schema mode model. In 2012 he treated 6 authentic couples with ST-C. All sessions were filmed and later edited into 6 episodes that were aired on Swedish National TV. For more information about Poul’s work go to https://cbti.se/kunskap/medarbetare/poul-perris/ For more information about the series andtraining go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not beenconsidered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

7. 

   24 Feb 2026

   Crime and Punishment: When holding on to anger doesn’t help – Wendy Behary

   What do we as therapists do in the aftermath of a betrayal when the betrayed partner can’t let go of their mistrust and has the urge to keep punishing the other? If there has been a building of trust and changes made by the parter who has acted out, what is going on for the partner who may be stuck in their anger? Wendy Behary brings insight to guide us through this tricky landscape and demonstrates how to bring healing to partners stuck in this painful dynamic. Wendy Behary has been treating clients, training professionals and supervising psychotherapists for more than 20 years. She is also on the faculty of the Cognitive Therapy Center and Schema Therapy Institute of New York, where she has trained and worked with Dr. Jeffrey Young since 1989. Wendy is a founding fellow (and supervisor) of The Academy of Cognitive Therapy (Dr. Aaron T. Beck). She was also the President of the International Society of Schema Therapy (ISST) from 2010-2014. Wendy Behary has co-authored several chapters and articles on Schema Therapy and Cognitive Therapy. She is the author of “Disarming the Narcissist…Surviving and Thriving with the Self-Absorbed” (New Harbinger Publications). Now translatedin 15 languages. Wendy has a specialty in treating narcissists and the people who live with and deal with them. As an author and an expert on the subject of narcissism, she is a contributing chapter author of several chapters on Schema Therapy for narcissism (Wiley and APA Press). She lectures both nationally and internationally to professional and general audiences on the subject of Schema Therapy, and the subject of narcissism, relationships, and dealing with difficult people. Find out more about Wendy's work and training at the following links: ⁠https://disarmingthenarcissist.com/⁠ (https://disarmingthenarcissist.com/) ⁠https://courses.schematherapytrainingonline.com/p/empathic-confrontation-wendy-behary⁠ (https://courses.schematherapytrainingonline.com/p/empathic-confrontation-wendy-behary) For more information about the series and training go tohttps://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html  and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

8. 

   10 Feb 2026

   Shattered Trust: Untangling the Chaos of Multiple Betrayals in a Relationship with Liz Lacy

   When there is a long history of sexual acting out, possible sex addiction or multiple betrayals of a sexual nature, the recovery and healing process is much more complex. How does Schema Couples Therapy help people heal and process this level of trauma? How do you help couples get to “full disclosure” when there may be years of lying and acting out? Liz Lacy has worked for more than 16 years with addictions, particularly sex/love. She has completed post-masters trainingat the American Institute for Cognitive Therapy (specializing in CBT), NY/NJ Institute for Schema Therapy, Beck Institute, and New York City Center for Emotion Focused (EFT) Couples Therapy. For more information on Liz’s work go to elizabethlacy.com For more information about the series and training go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html (https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html) and ⁠https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/⁠ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

9. 

   27 Jan 2026

   Three’s a crowd: Considering The enmeshment schema in Couples Therapy with Jeff Conway

   How do we help a couple when they literally become one to grapple with are they attached or entangled? Here’s Jeff Conway to help us consider the cling factor and how to help bring relief to partners in this dynamic. Jeff Conway is a founding member of The International Society for Schema Therapy and the past President of the International Society of Schema Therapy. He is a Certified Advanced Level Trainer-Supervisor in Schema Therapy (since 2008). Jeff has a private practice in Mid-Town Manhattan where he works with Individuals, Couples, and Groups. Jeff has trained in Emotion Focused Therapy, and is a founder of The NY Center for Emotion-Focused Therapy.  He is also a Certified Group Therapist and his most recent work involves an in-depth exploration of co-dependency and the Enmeshment Schema. For more information about the series and training go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html and https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/ (https://schematherapyforcoupleslondon.co.uk/every-part-of-us/) The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

10. 

    13 Jan 2026

    Hypersexuality: Digging deep to heal from shame with Wendy Behary

    This episode highlights how to work with narcissistic hyper sexuality. How we need to "dig deep" to help with resistance and how does shame block empathy for the partner who has been betrayed? Wendy Behary has been treating clients, training professionals and supervising psychotherapists for more than 20 years. She is also on the faculty of the Cognitive Therapy Center and Schema Therapy Institute of New York, where she has trained and worked with Dr. Jeffrey Young since 1989. Wendy is a founding fellow (and supervisor) of The Academy of Cognitive Therapy (Dr. Aaron T. Beck). She was also the President of the International Society of Schema Therapy (ISST) from 2010-2014. Wendy Behary has co-authored several chapters and articles on Schema Therapy and Cognitive Therapy. She is the author of“Disarming the Narcissist…Surviving and Thriving with the Self-Absorbed” (New Harbinger Publications). Now translated in 15 languages. Wendy has a specialty in treating narcissists and the people who live with and deal with them. As an author and an expert on the subject of narcissism, she is a contributingchapter author of several chapters on Schema Therapy for narcissism (Wiley and APA Press). She lectures both nationally and internationally to professional and general audiences on the subject of Schema Therapy, and the subject of narcissism, relationships, and dealing with difficult people. Find out more about Wendy's work and training at the following links:https://disarmingthenarcissist.com/ (https://disarmingthenarcissist.com/) https://courses.schematherapytrainingonline.com/p/empathic-confrontation-wendy-behary (https://courses.schematherapytrainingonline.com/p/empathic-confrontation-wendy-behary) For more information about the series and training go tohttps://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not beenconsidered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

11. 

    13 Jan 2026

    Introduction to Every Part of Us: What is Schema Couples Therapy?

    Couple conflict often has roots in unmet needs from childhood. Do I feel safe to be vulnerable? Are you going to be there for me? Do I feel worthy of love? These are some of the fundamental questions that Schema Couples Therapy explores. The hosts of Every Part of Us discuss how this framework can build profound intimacy and help couples to connect and heal. For more information about the series and training go to https://www.schematherapycanberra.com.au/everypartofus.html The information that we provide is informational and does not constitute any “health” advice. We provide this information for your general use only. Your personal situation has not been considered when providing the information, so any reliance on this information is at your sole risk, and you should always seek independent professional advice before reliance on the information. All case examples are de-identified to maintain confidentiality.

12. 

    7 Dec 2025

    Every Part of Us Trailer

    Coming January 2024, a limited series podcast exploring how Schema Couples Therapy provides a powerful and unique toolkit to help therapists work with complexity in couples. We will be interviewing experts on topics such as couples and affairs, addictions, enmeshment and how to use schema therapy to formulate and work with these issues. This podcast is for everyone who wants to understand what helps couples thrive and what can go wrong, for therapists and those wanting to improve their relationships. Join your hosts, Ruth Holt and Ruth McCutcheon to explore every part of us! Subscribe and follow for more updates.

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