Evidence Based Recovery
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<p>A podcast where we explore the science behind getting clean and sober, and why there may be a need for more inclusivity in the 12-step programs. Hosted by a certified addictions counselor who also has personal experience with addiction and recovery.</p><p></p><p>Each episode will feature an interview with someone who is either in recovery or an expert in the field. We will explain how the classic 12-step recommendations can be understood in less scary terms. Also, we will discuss why certain therapeutic interventions are suggested and how they can be supported with research and evidence. There will be links to articles, studies, and research papers, making every claim easy to fact-check and read about.</p><p></p><p>With so many spiritual and faith-based systems, we wanted to provide a safe space for people who are more evidence-minded or perhaps even have trauma from religion or spiritual abuse. We believe that recovery is possible for everyone, regardless of what you believe. And we can demonstrate that even the most stubborn, pedantic, agnostic, or atheist people can still find a way to achieve the self-reflection necessary for recovery.</p><p></p><p>So join us and listen to some interesting stories from people all over the world battling their alcoholism and addiction one day at a time. Have fun clicking the links to make sure that we aren't just making it all up as we go. We invite any questions in the name of discussion, goodwill, and recovery. If you are like us, you will need evidence to believe anything we say, and that's perfectly ok. Whatever helps a person who suffers.</p><p></p><p>Any questions, please email Max Ariel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:iammaxariel@gmail.com">iammaxariel@gmail.com</a></p><p></p><p>Special thanks to the folks at Grammer for helping with the artwork and for helping us say what we wanted to say: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://grammercreative.com/">https://grammercreative.com/</a></p>
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Recent Episodes
May 28, 2026
Ep. 12: David D.H.
<p>Our guest today is author David Deane Haskell. A lot of people on this podcast want to remain anonymous, but David wants you to know who he is. You will hear about his journey through trauma, shame, addiction, and recovery. He has a new book out called Wounded Angels. You can contact him directly and ask as many questions as you'd like. His information is below. Feel free to reach out: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:iammaxariel@gmail.com">iammaxariel@gmail.com</a> </p><p>David Deane Haskell:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://daviddeanehaskell.com/">https://daviddeanehaskell.com/</a></p><p>Wounded Angles:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DW7MWPLF?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DW7MWPLF?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true</a></p><p>Substack:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://innerchildjournal.substack.com/p/world-premiere-sneak-peak-inner-child">https://innerchildjournal.substack.com/p/world-premiere-sneak-peak-inner-child</a></p><p>Internal Life Practice:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/177185.Integral_Life_Practice">https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/177185.Integral_Life_Practice</a></p><p>The 3-2-1 Shadow Process:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.drbren.com/blog/3-2-1-shadow-work-process">https://www.drbren.com/blog/3-2-1-shadow-work-process</a> </p><p>Co-Dependents Anonymous: </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/283530.Co_Dependents_Anonymous">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/283530.Co_Dependents_Anonymous</a></p><p>Childhood Trauma and Addiction:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://oldvineyardbhs.com/blog/connection-between-childhood-trauma-addiction/">https://oldvineyardbhs.com/blog/connection-between-childhood-trauma-addiction/</a></p><p>Shame Attacks:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://healingshame.com/articles/2017/12/19/managing-a-shame-attack">https://healingshame.com/articles/2017/12/19/managing-a-shame-attack</a> </p><p>Family Scapegoat Abuse:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/5-critical-things-to-know-about-family-scapegoating-abuse-fsa">https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/5-critical-things-to-know-about-family-scapegoating-abuse-fsa</a> </p><p>Financial stress:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pas.duke.edu/concerns/emotional/stress/money-related-stress/">https://pas.duke.edu/concerns/emotional/stress/money-related-stress/</a></p><p>Internal Family Systems:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://ifs-institute.com/">https://ifs-institute.com/</a></p><p>Music:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/power-of-music-in-mental-well-being">https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/power-of-music-in-mental-well-being</a></p><p>Meditation:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.apa.org/topics/mindfulness/meditation">https://www.apa.org/topics/mindfulness/meditation</a></p><p>Beaches:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/health/article/beach-ocean-mental-health-benefits">https://www.nationalgeographic.com/health/article/beach-ocean-mental-health-benefits</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>
May 28, 2026
Ep. 11: Host Update
<p>I moved! This is just a quick update about where I went and how that affects my practice as a counselor. Mostly everything is staying the same. I just wanted to give a few details. Click the links below for some further reading and feel free to email me with any questions: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:iammaxariel@gmail.com">iammaxariel@gmail.com</a> </p><p>Avid Counseling:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.avidcounselingservices.com/">https://www.avidcounselingservices.com/</a></p><p>Psychology Today profile:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/max-ariel-atlantic-city-nj/1695874">https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/max-ariel-atlantic-city-nj/1695874</a> </p><p>Caribbean 12 Step:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.caribbean12step.org/">https://www.caribbean12step.org/</a></p><p>Evidence-based Practice:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/health-and-medicine/evidence-based-practice-ebp">https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/health-and-medicine/evidence-based-practice-ebp</a></p><p>The Power of Faith:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3671693/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3671693/</a></p><p>The Secular 12 steps:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aaagnostica.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Secular-12-Steps.pdf">https://aaagnostica.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Secular-12-Steps.pdf</a> </p><p>Different Cultures and Addiction:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK248421/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK248421/</a> </p><p>Global Faith:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/">https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/</a> </p><p>Trauma:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/</a></p><p>Vulnerability:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://psychcentral.com/relationships/the-good-kind-of-vulnerability">https://psychcentral.com/relationships/the-good-kind-of-vulnerability</a> </p><p>Journaling:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.reflection.app/blog/benefits-of-journaling">https://www.reflection.app/blog/benefits-of-journaling</a> </p><p>Eating Healthy:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7322666/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7322666/</a></p><p>How It Works (AA Literature):</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.aa.org/sites/default/files/2021-11/en_bigbook_chapt5.pdf">https://www.aa.org/sites/default/files/2021-11/en_bigbook_chapt5.pdf</a> </p><p></p>
May 18, 2025
Ep. 10: Autumn F.
<p>Today we have a very sweet and gentle soul on the podcast. Autumn describes her rocky start to recovery and how she finally clicked into a powerful group that helped her to stay clean and sober four years now. She is very brave and humble and tells her story in an extremely relatable way. Click the links below for further reading and feel free to email me with any questions: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:iammaxariel@gmail.com">iammaxariel@gmail.com</a> </p><p>Recovery Dharma:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://recoverydharma.org/">https://recoverydharma.org/</a> </p><p>Smart Recovery:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://smartrecovery.org/">https://smartrecovery.org/</a> </p><p>Gratitude:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/health-benefits-gratitude">https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/health-benefits-gratitude</a> </p><p>Mindfulness: </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.mindful.org/the-science-of-mindfulness/">https://www.mindful.org/the-science-of-mindfulness/</a> </p><p>Goals:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://positivepsychology.com/benefits-goal-setting/">https://positivepsychology.com/benefits-goal-setting/</a> </p><p>Journaling:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.reflection.app/blog/benefits-of-journaling">https://www.reflection.app/blog/benefits-of-journaling</a> </p><p>Making amends:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/what-the-wild-things-are/202107/why-making-amends-is-so-important">https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/what-the-wild-things-are/202107/why-making-amends-is-so-important</a> </p><p>Mentorship:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK552775/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK552775/</a></p><p>Helping others:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://mha.gbtesting.us/resources/help-others/">https://mha.gbtesting.us/resources/help-others/</a> </p><p>Yoga:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/yoga-for-health-science">https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/yoga-for-health-science</a></p><p>Trauma Informed:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lifespan-perspectives/202111/what-does-it-mean-be-trauma-informed">https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lifespan-perspectives/202111/what-does-it-mean-be-trauma-informed</a></p><p>Hate speech:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech">https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech</a></p>
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<p>A podcast where we explore the science behind getting clean and sober, and why there may be a need for more inclusivity in the 12-step programs. Hosted by a certified addictions counselor who also has personal experience with addiction and recovery.</p><p></p><p>Each episode will feature an interview with someone who is either in recovery or an expert in the field. We will explain how the classic 12-step recommendations can be understood in less scary terms. Also, we will discuss why certain therapeutic interventions are suggested and how they can be supported with research and evidence. There will be links to articles, studies, and research papers, making every claim easy to fact-check and read about.</p><p></p><p>With so many spiritual and faith-based systems, we wanted to provide a safe space for people who are more evidence-minded or perhaps even have trauma from religion or spiritual abuse. We believe that recovery is possible for everyone, regardless of what you believe. And we can demonstrate that even the most stubborn, pedantic, agnostic, or atheist people can still find a way to achieve the self-reflection necessary for recovery.</p><p></p><p>So join us and listen to some interesting stories from people all over the world battling their alcoholism and addiction one day at a time. Have fun clicking the links to make sure that we aren't just making it all up as we go. We invite any questions in the name of discussion, goodwill, and recovery. If you are like us, you will need evidence to believe anything we say, and that's perfectly ok. Whatever helps a person who suffers.</p><p></p><p>Any questions, please email Max Ariel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:iammaxariel@gmail.com">iammaxariel@gmail.com</a></p><p></p><p>Special thanks to the folks at Grammer for helping with the artwork and for helping us say what we wanted to say: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://grammercreative.com/">https://grammercreative.com/</a></p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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