We finally come back to the mic to talk about what everyone is talking about: LLMs at work. Urban has stopped handwriting code, Monica is delegating debugging to Claude between meetings, and we both wonder out loud whether our processes, our hiring, and honestly our jobs are quietly being rewritten while we ride the wave.
Mentioned
Destroying the Machines, with Brian Merchant (https://www.ilpost.it/podcasts/globo/destroying-the-machines-with-brian-merchant)
The engineering management memory crisis (https://newsletter.manager.dev/p/the-engineering-management-memory-crisis)
Quotable moments
[10:00] "How can I trust you if you're not able to commit to the fact that, sorry, I don't know about this." — Monica
[18:24] "Who is going to review 20,000 lines of code in a language they're not expert of? Looks good to me territory." — Urban
[23:55] "Nobody knows. Remember that they're all making stuff up." — Monica
[35:32] "You are all going to become engineering managers... what you're going to have at your disposal is a certain amount of agents that you can spin up and tell them to orchestrate between each other." — Monica
Ask questions via our anonymous feedback form (https://forms.gle/MW8qZFD7RLYriqKj8)
You can reach us via email at hosts@expandingbeyond.it (mailto:hosts@expandingbeyond.it).
Where to find Monica on the internet:
Website: monicag.me (https://monicag.me/)
Bluesky: @nirnaeth.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/nirnaeth.bsky.social)
Mastodon: @nirnaeth@mastodon.online (https://mastodon.social/@nirnaeth@mastodon.online)
Github: @nirnaeth (https://github.com/nirnaeth)
Blog: dev.to/nirnaeth (https://dev.to/nirnaeth)
Where to find Urban on the internet:
Mastodon: @ujh@masto.ai (https://masto.ai/@ujh)
Bluesky: @urbanhafner.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/urbanhafner.bsky.social)
Github: @ujh (https://github.com/ujh/)
Blog: urbanhafner.com (https://urbanhafner.com/)
The intro and outro music is Our Big Adventure (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes/Happy_Music/Our_Big_Adventure) by Scott Holmes (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes). It's licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0) (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/).
21 Jul 2025
Episode 62: The one where we talk about AI
We finally have the in depth discussion about LLMs, how we use them, and what we think they might evolve into. We also touch on starting to pay more and more for stuff.
Ask questions via our anonymous feedback form (https://forms.gle/MW8qZFD7RLYriqKj8)
You can reach us via email at hosts@expandingbeyond.it (mailto:hosts@expandingbeyond.it).
Where to find Monica on the internet:
Website: monicag.me (https://monicag.me/)
Bluesky: @nirnaeth.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/nirnaeth.bsky.social)
Mastodon: @nirnaeth@mastodon.online (https://mastodon.social/@nirnaeth@mastodon.online)
Github: @nirnaeth (https://github.com/nirnaeth)
Blog: dev.to/nirnaeth (https://dev.to/nirnaeth)
Where to find Urban on the internet:
Mastodon: @ujh@masto.ai (https://masto.ai/@ujh)
Bluesky: @urbanhafner.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/urbanhafner.bsky.social)
Github: @ujh (https://github.com/ujh/)
Blog: urbanhafner.com (https://urbanhafner.com/)
The intro and outro music is Our Big Adventure (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes/Happy_Music/Our_Big_Adventure) by Scott Holmes (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes). It's licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0) (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/).
24 Feb 2025
Episode 61: Keep your database close
It's side project time! Urban talks about moving a project from Heroku to fly.io and Monica starts volunteering her time to stay motivated.
Fountain Pen Companion (https://www.fountainpencompanion.com/)
FPC Github repository (https://github.com/ujh/fountainpencompanion/)
[fly.io](fly.io)
LiteFS (https://fly.io/docs/litefs/)
Pgvector (https://github.com/pgvector/pgvector)
Vostel (https://vostel.de/)
Freetown Christiania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania)
Ask questions via our anonymous feedback form (https://forms.gle/MW8qZFD7RLYriqKj8)
You can reach us via email at hosts@expandingbeyond.it (mailto:hosts@expandingbeyond.it).
Where to find Monica on the internet:
Website: monicag.me (https://monicag.me/)
Bluesky: @nirnaeth.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/nirnaeth.bsky.social)
Mastodon: @nirnaeth@mastodon.online (https://mastodon.social/@nirnaeth@mastodon.online)
Github: @nirnaeth (https://github.com/nirnaeth)
Blog: dev.to/nirnaeth (https://dev.to/nirnaeth)
Where to find Urban on the internet:
Mastodon: @ujh@masto.ai (https://masto.ai/@ujh)
Bluesky: @urbanhafner.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/urbanhafner.bsky.social)
Github: @ujh (https://github.com/ujh/)
Blog: urbanhafner.com (https://urbanhafner.com/)
The intro and outro music is Our Big Adventure (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes/Happy_Music/Our_Big_Adventure) by Scott Holmes (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes). It's licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0) (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/).
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