Welcome to the Exponential NEXT Podcast where ministry and church leaders come together to discuss topics that give you a peek into the future of the church. At Exponential NEXT we focus on discovering what is coming NEXT for the future of the church that can lead to accelerating church multiplication. Join a community of kingdom-minded changemakers exploring innovative models, methods, and approaches for reaching, discipling, and mobilizing people with a strong focus on church planting, together. With new conversations every Wednesday, we will dive into topics we believe will help us all see what’s coming around the corner for the Church. Discover more about Exponential NEXT by visiting us at exponential.org/next.

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Podcast Overview
Welcome to the Exponential NEXT Podcast where ministry and church leaders come together to discuss topics that give you a peek into the future of the church. At Exponential NEXT we focus on discovering what is coming NEXT for the future of the church that can lead to accelerating church multiplication. Join a community of kingdom-minded changemakers exploring innovative models, methods, and approaches for reaching, discipling, and mobilizing people with a strong focus on church planting, together. With new conversations every Wednesday, we will dive into topics we believe will help us all see what’s coming around the corner for the Church. Discover more about Exponential NEXT by visiting us at exponential.org/next.
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June 17, 2026
EP 110: Exploring Microchurch Planting
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 110</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Series: Exploring Distinct Expressions Within the Landscape of Church Planting</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><b>Description</b>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Forget the building, forget the budget – what if all you needed was your neighbors? Come along as we explore this conversation again with Brian Johnson and Rob Wegner, leaders of the Kansas City Underground, as they share their powerful journey into microchurch planting. The Kansas City Underground equips people to live as missionaries in their own networks through rhythms of prayer, listening, eating, serving, and storytelling. Microchurches—defined as extended spiritual families—emerge from these relational networks, led by unpaid leaders who embrace the mission of Jesus in everyday life. Discover how to empower everyday believers to lead, foster authentic community, and live out the mission of Jesus in their own circles. This episode will challenge your assumptions and inspire you to see ministry opportunities all around you. This expression is highlighted in a free resource called ‘The Atlas’ which can be found on our website at <a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="https://exponential.org/atlas.">exponential.org/atlas.</a></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Hosts</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Carrie Williams, Executive Director, Exponential NEXT</p> <p>Bill Couchenour, Deployment Director, Exponential</p> <p><strong>Guests</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Rob Wegner, Co-Founder and Director, KC Underground</p> <p>Brian Johnson, Co-Founder and Director, KC Underground</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Links Shared in Episode</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><a href="https://kcunderground.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">KC Underground</a></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvzPB9WnO_Q9iAtGj-1bhA" target="_blank" rel="noopener">KC Underground YouTube Channel</a></p> <p><a href="https://starfishyou.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">StarfishyoU Substack</a></p> <p>eBooks through EX:</p> <p><a href="https://exponential.org/product/extraordinary-prayer/">Extraordinary Prayer</a></p> <p><a href="https://exponential.org/product/deeply-rooted/">Deeply Rooted</a></p> <p><strong>Category</strong>: Church Expressions NEXT</p> <p> </p>

June 10, 2026
EP 109: Exploring Digital Church Planting
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 109</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Series: Exploring Distinct Expressions Within the Landscape of Church Planting</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><b>Description</b>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">What happens when church planting takes an unexpected turn—and it’s exactly what God intended? In this episode, join us as we take another look at the conversation between our hosts Carrie Williams and Bill Couchenour and Justin and Janae Klatt, founders of Imagine Church Global, a fully digital faith community born from obedience and innovation. What began as a traditional church plant in Phoenix shifted online when the Klatts realized people across the country wanted to join—but couldn’t move. Through Spirit-led moments and creative risk-taking, Imagine Church Global emerged as a week-long, app-based experience where “community builders” lead flexible, discussion-driven gatherings. This model reaches those often excluded from physical churches—like flight attendants, RVers, or the homebound around the country and around the world. This episode is a powerful reminder that God moves in unexpected ways—and that new expressions of the Church can meet people right where they are. This expression is highlighted in a free resource called ‘The Atlas’ which can be found on our website at <a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="https://exponential.org/atlas.">exponential.org/atlas.</a></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Hosts</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Carrie Williams, Executive Director, Exponential NEXT</p> <p>Bill Couchenour, Deployment Director, Exponential</p> <p><strong>Guests</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Justin Klatt – Co-Founder and Co-Pastor, Imagine Church Global</p> <p>Janae Klatt – Co-Founder and Co-Pastor, Imagine Church Global</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Links Shared in Episode</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><a href="https://imagine.church" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Imagine.church</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/imaginechurchglobal/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">IG: @imaginechurchglobal</a></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Category</strong>: Church Expressions NEXT</p> <p> </p>

June 3, 2026
EP 108: Exploring Entrepreneurial Church Planting
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 108</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Series: Exploring Distinct Expressions Within the Landscape of Church Planting</strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><b>Description</b>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">What if your church could fight hunger AND fuel your soul? Let’s revisit the forward-thinking approach of entrepreneurial church planting with our guests, Carl Johnson and Scott Woller. These innovative leaders are embedding their churches in the heart of their communities, using coffee shops, grocery stores, and workforce development programs as powerful expressions of their mission. Whether you’re a church planter, pastor, or just curious about new models of ministry, this episode will challenge and inspire you to think beyond the building—and plant churches that meet people where they are. This expression is highlighted in a free resource called ‘The Atlas’ which can be found on our website at <a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="https://exponential.org/atlas.">exponential.org/atlas.</a></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Hosts</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Carrie Williams, Executive Director, Exponential NEXT</p> <p>Bill Couchenour, Deployment Director, Exponential</p> <p><strong>Guests</strong>:</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Carl Johnson, Lead Pastor, Faith City Church Network</p> <p>Scott Woller, Pastor/Planting Pastor, Corner Church</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Links Shared in Episode</strong>:</p> <p><a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="mailto:scott@cornerchurch.tv">scott@cornerchurch.tv</a></p> <p><a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="https://www.corner.coffee/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">www.corner.coffee</a></p> <p><a class="ProsemirrorEditor-link" href="https://www.corner.church/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">www.corner.church</a></p> <p><strong>Category</strong>: Church Expressions NEXT</p> <p> </p>
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