God alone can fathom the human heart, but Fr. David Chojnacki and Ben Kroger are going to give it their best shot anyway.
Fr. David Chojnacki, a Priest of the Diocese of Cleveland, and Ben Kroger, a retired Veteran, explore God's Heart for His people, and how our own hearts can come to look more like His.
023 - Mother Natalia - to Bind up the Brokenhearted
***Trigger Warning: Mother Natalia comes from a military family and one of her brothers was wounded severely in combat. In this episode, she does describe the occasion and nature of his injuries in some detail. It is profoundly relevant, but some listeners, particularly those familiar with the devastation wrought by war, could encounter some difficulty with this portion of the episode.***
We are overjoyed to welcome Mother Natalia, Byzantine Catholic Nun of the Christ the Bridegroom Monastary, to the show. She shares the beginning of her story of becoming an icon of, and subsequent participant in, Isaiah 61:1-3:
61 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me,
because the Lord has anointed me
to bring good tidings to the afflicted;
he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim liberty to the captives,
and the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
2 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor,
and the day of vengeance of our God;
to comfort all who mourn;
3 to grant to those who mourn in Zion—
to give them a garland instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness instead of mourning,
the mantle of praise instead of a faint spirit;
that they may be called oaks of righteousness,
the planting of the Lord, that he may be glorified.
Edited by: Josh Metzger and Benjamin Kroger
Music Licensed by: Fesliyan Studios, Inc.
17 Jul 2026
022 - Matt Stoll - So God Made a Farmer
Fathom the Heart is joined by Matt Stoll, 8th generation farmer in rural Ohio. We explore his winding road home to the Heart of God and themes of authentic love, longing and patience.
Edited by: Josh Metzger and Benjamin Kroger
Music Licensed by: Fesliyan Studios, Inc.
12 Jun 2026
Bonus 017 - Woman at the Well 2026
In what has become an annual release, we bring you Father David's Homily on the Woman at the Well, the Gospel Reading for the First Scrutiny, on the Third Sunday of Lent.
The Readings for this Sunday are:
Reading I: Exodus 17:3-7
Responsorial: Psalm 95:1-2; 6-7; 8-9
Reading II: Romans 5:1-2; 5-8
Gospel: St. John 4:5-42
Readings can be found at: https://bible.usccb.org/bible/readings/030826.cfm
Edited by: Benjamin Kroger
Music Licensed by: Fesliyan Studios, Inc.
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