two friends chat about fatness, history, and fat icons!
hosted by Jessica Blair (@lovejessicablair) & Kat Lyon (@pranksbykat)
IG & TikTok: @fatspopod
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You probably know him from the Sopranos, but James Gandolfini was so much more! He was an Emmy-award winning actor, Broadway star, father, philanthropist, and one of The Creators of hot fat men on TV. Join us while we discuss James' life, death, and legacy! RIP to a fat icon.
13 Oct 2026
The Eroticism of Fat (with Dr. Don Kulick)
We are VERY honored to have Dr. Don Kulick on as a guest!! Don is an anthropologist, linguist, queer theorist, professor and author of Fat: The Anthropology of an Obsession. He's worked all over the globe and was influential in introducing queer theory to Sweden. Join us as we discuss the desirability of fat and how everything is connected!
21 Sept 2026
The Life & Filthy Legacy of Divine
The legend, the icon, the diva of filth: Divine! Glenn Milstead was an actor, disco singer, and controversial performer, known for his partnership with the indie director of transgressive cult films, John Waters. Today we'll discuss Divine's life, career, and filthy legacy! RIP to a true fat icon.
7 Sept 2026
The Evolution of Fat Activism (with Dr. Charlotte Cooper)
We are SO honored to have Dr. Charlotte Cooper on as our first guest!! Dr. Cooper is a psychotherapist, queer writer, archivist, fat icon, and sooo much more. She wrote Cherry, a novel that was briefly banned in Canada, is a live performance artist, and a lover of zines. Join us as we discuss the history of fat activism and how it connects with our present & future!
Dr. Cooper's website: https://charlottecooper.net/
Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/cw/FATSPOPOD
24 Aug 2026
Johnnie Tillmon & The War Against Welfare
Johnnie Tillmon was an icon, mother, and welfare rights activist, whose work influenced the Civil Rights Movement and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Join us while we discuss Johnnie and her legacy of fighting for mothers, children, and people across the U.S.
RSVP to our August book club in NYC! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fatspo-pod-book-club-tickets-1996861114347?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=wsa&aff=ebdsshwebmobilePatreon! https://www.patreon.com/cw/FATSPOPODsources: https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/style/alloclae-glp-1-cadaver-fat-interviewhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8066645/https://allografts.com/good-tissue-bank-standards-of-practice/https://allografts.com/tissue-banks-standards-and-accreditation/https://www.mtfbiologics.org/healthcare-professionals/plastic-aesthetic-reconstructive-surgery/aestheticshttps://allografts.com/introduction-to-allografts/https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/allografthttps://www.thepiazzacenter.com/blog/beyond-the-hype-what-the-alix-earle-look-really-means-for-non-surgical-alloclae-i/https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/style/alloclae-glp-1-cadaver-fat-interviewhttps://www.allure.com/story/alloclae-injectable-filler-explainerhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00031348231157892https://msmagazine.com/2021/03/25/welfare-is-a-womens-issue-ms-magazine-spring-1972/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/well/super-bowl-ad-mike-tyson-maha.htmlhttps://www.blackwomenradicals.com/blog-feed/mothering-as-resistance-the-legacy-of-johnnie-tillmonhttps://blackpast.org/african-american-history/tillmon-johnnie-1926-1995/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Tillmonhttps://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/27/us/johnnie-tillmon-blackston-welfare-reformer-dies-at-69.htmlhttps://www.npr.org/2023/06/27/1184461207/how-one-woman-set-out-to-do-something-about-the-financial-burden-of-motherhood
10 Aug 2026
The Untold Story of Anne Zamberlan
Anne Zamberlan was a French actress, model, and activist known for her outspoken support for the fat community AND Allegro Fortissimo, a group, night club, and clothing store specifically for plus size women! Join us as we discuss this diva and icon!
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27 Jul 2026
The Life & Death of Anna Nicole Smith
Anna Nicole Smith was a model, actress, television personality, and 2000s icon known for her turbulent life and very premature death. Join us while we discuss Anna Nicole and the very weird way the media treated both her *and* her body.
CW: discussions of anti-fatness, eating disorders, drug use, and death.
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22 Jun 2026
The Forgotten Queer Mother of the Blues
Gertrude “Ma” Rainey was an influential blues singer, literally dubbed the “Mother of the Blues.” While she’s most remembered for her singing style, beautiful voice, and electric nature, she’s also a queer icon! Join us while we discuss this absolute diva and her life.
CW: discussions of racism, anti-fatness, homophobia, and dieting.
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8 Jun 2026
Cass Elliot & the Public War on Her Body
Cass Elliot was a singer-songwriter, actress, comedian, and icon, known for her beautiful voice and lively personality. Unfortunately, she's often remembered for the bizarre lie that she died choking on a ham sandwich. Join us while we discuss this diva and the way anti-fatness impacted both her life and death.
CW: discussions of anti-fatness, eating disorders, drug use, and death.
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