Fight the Burnout - A Podcast for Police

About Fight the Burnout - A Podcast for Police

The Conversations Men don’t normally have! Real conversations men only have with their closest brothers. Around the fire, over a drink, we talk wins, dark times, and everything between. Let's push men to know themselves, build deeper bonds, and lead with purpose.

Publisher

Chris Chandler-Yates

Category

education

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

10 Mar 2020

Latest episode

9 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

236 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   9 Oct 2026

   Conversation #39 - Jake Kastleman | Pornography Addiction, Dopamine, and What Men Are Really Escaping

   Pornography addiction is not just about the porn. For the men Jake Kastleman works with, the real question is what they have been escaping from, and what they have been trying to feel that they are not experiencing. Jake is a husband and father with a background in psychology, and his own story starts young. He grew up feeling the stress and anxiety in his home with no idea how to process it, so he turned to video games and food. Pseudo accomplishments and pseudo safety, in his words. Over the years that pattern escalated into pornography and substance use. Getting sober was only the beginning of the deeper work. Today he helps men build a lifestyle of recovery around emotions, neurology, biology, and relationships. Chris brings his own side to the conversation. He talks about chasing adrenaline as a police officer, shutting emotions down during close protection work, and learning later that they still need to be processed safely. Together they get into stoicism versus emotional mindfulness, why effortless dopamine hits from porn and social media create dopamine debt, and why the effort and connection in a real relationship work differently. Jake also shares practical tools, including the RAIL method, the FISH acronym, and internal family systems therapy, along with the often overlooked impact of nutrition, exercise, and sleep. The conversation lands on brotherhood, on raising kids who can handle hard emotions, and on the point Jake closes with: men support each other best by being present, not by trying to fix each other. If you have ever asked yourself what you are really reaching for when you scroll, or you know a man stuck in that loop, this is an honest place to start. Connect with Jake Kastleman Email: jake@nomoredesire.com (mailto:jake@nomoredesire.com) Website: www.nomoredesire.com (http://www.nomoredesire.com/) Apply for a Discovery Call/Consultation: https://www.nomoredesire.com/application (https://www.nomoredesire.com/application) Connect with Motivated Masculine Men Website: www.motivatedmasculinemen.com (http://www.motivatedmasculinemen.com/) Email: brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com (mailto:brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com) If you’d like to be a guest on the podcast, or know someone who would be a great fit, we’d love to hear from you. Get in touch by email. What You’ll Learn In this conversation you’ll learn: Why pornography addiction is not just about the behavior, but about what a man is escaping and what he is trying to feel How early stress at home, with no way to process it, pushed Jake toward video games and food as pseudo safety How that pattern escalated into pornography and substance use, and why getting sober was only the start of the deeper work Why effortless dopamine hits from porn and social media create dopamine debt Why real relationships, including sex within them, involve a more balanced dopamine release because they take effort and connection The difference between stoic skills and emotional mindfulness, and why men need both How internal family systems therapy treats cravings and hard emotions as parts of the mind to meet with curiosity, calm, and compassion How trauma can disconnect first responders from feeling emotions in the body, and the practices that help, including meditation, writing, and professional support How the RAIL method and the FISH acronym build self awareness and emotional regulation Why nutrition, exercise, and sleep are an often overlooked part of addiction recovery How to teach children to relate to and respond to their hard emotions Why brotherhood matters, and why presence beats problem solving when a man is struggling

2. 

   18 Sept 2026

   Conversation #38 - Roberto Ortiz - Mexican Police Officer: Losing Both Legs, Finding a New Mission

   Summary Roberto Ortiz spent his career protecting people from some of the most dangerous men in Mexico. Then one night at a checkpoint, everything he built his identity around was taken from him in seconds. Roberto started in logistics and supply chain management, working for companies like Honeywell and Jabil, before joining the police in 2019. He rose to lead a high impact operations group, similar to a SWAT team, running raids and investigations against organized crime and cartels out of the Attorney General's office in Chihuahua, including in Ciudad Juarez. He talks honestly about what that work actually pays, often around $1,500 USD a month after several years of service, and how underpayment creates the exact conditions that leave officers vulnerable to corruption. In 2022, Roberto and his team were pulled back from vacation after a major drug bust involving roughly 500 kilos of fentanyl and crystal meth. A high ranking commander and an immigration officer had been kidnapped and killed, and Roberto's team set up a checkpoint on the road leading to where the attackers were believed to be hiding. While checking vehicles that night, a car rammed into him at high speed. He suffered catastrophic injuries and massive blood loss, and his partner Edgar used makeshift tourniquets to keep him alive while Roberto called his wife to say goodbye. What followed exposed the gaps in Mexico's medical system. A government hospital turned him away for not being in their network, and a private hospital demanded $25,000 in cash his family did not have, before he was finally admitted to a public hospital. During transport, Roberto experienced what he describes as an out of body moment, seeing his life pass in golden light, at a point when doctors gave him only a five percent chance of survival. He survived, but both legs were eventually amputated above the knee. Roberto speaks candidly about what came after. The confusion and fear in the early days of recovery, the strength his wife gave him just by being present, and why relearning how to live again was harder than the injury itself. Left without real support from his employer for two years, he built his own rehabilitation program, studying clinics overseas and working with a local prosthetics provider to design his own exercises. Today his mission has shifted toward intelligence work, speaking, and podcasting, using his story to help other men find purpose after everything has been taken from them. Connect with Roberto Ortiz TikTok - @revixi1 Instagram - @robertoortiz.oficial Email - roberto.ortiz.puertas@gmail.com Support Robert with getting new prosthetics GOFUND ME PAGE (https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-roberto-ortiz-rebuild-independence/cl/s?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_content=amp30-treatment-4&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link&lang=en_CA&attribution_id=sl%3A33a2ce4c-dc9b-4439-a6a7-82a4d0185634&ts=1788894775) Connect with Motivated Masculine Men Website - www.motivatedmasculinemen.com (http://www.motivatedmasculinemen.com/) Email - brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com (mailto:brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com) If you'd like to be a guest on the podcast, or know someone who would be a great fit, we'd love to hear from you. Get in touch by email. What You'll Learn In this conversation you'll learn: How Roberto transitioned from a logistics and supply chain career into becoming a police officer in 2019 What it was like leading a high impact operations group against organized crime and cartels in Mexico The events of the 2022 checkpoint operation that led to Roberto being struck by a vehicle at high speed How his partner used makeshift tourniquets to keep him alive after catastrophic blood loss Why he called his wife to say goodbye during the incident, believing he would not survive The failures in Mexico's medical system that nearly cost him his life before he reached proper care What he experienced during a near death moment, and how doctors gave him only a five percent chance of survival How his wife's presence gave him the strength to get through the hardest parts of recovery Why learning to live again was harder than the physical injuries themselves How he built his own rehabilitation program after being left without support for two years

3. 

   11 Sept 2026

   Conversation #37 - John Walt: Every Man's Journey: The Forgotten Path to True Manhood

   Summary John Walt spent a decade doing something most driven men never let themselves do. He stepped back from chasing financial success to intentionally shape who his two sons would become as men. That decision became the seed for his book, Every Man's Journey: The Forgotten Path to True Manhood. John's own transformation started with what he calls a dying experience, the process of letting go of an old identity built on ego and accomplishment so a new one could take its place. He argues that most men are working from a broken cultural definition of masculinity, one that rewards achievement while ignoring the deeper work of actually becoming a man. His book draws on the structure of the hero's journey and traditional rites of passage, both of which hinge on the same idea: ego death followed by rebirth. Chris brings his own experience into the conversation, including his time as a police officer in New Zealand dealing with PTSD and burnout, and the 2.5 month motorcycle trip across the US that forced him to confront how much of his identity was built on being a cop. John introduces the four male archetypes, warrior, lover, wise man, and king, and explains why balancing all four, rather than living solely as the warrior, is what leads to healthy masculinity. They dig into mentorship, why wisdom cannot be measured by direct return on investment, and how becoming a student with real humility is often what attracts the right guidance. John also unpacks provide, protect, and preside, pushing back on modern definitions of provision that reduce it to a paycheck, and Chris shares how that shows up in his own marriage through emotional support and physical presence, not just financial contribution. The conversation closes on identity beyond career, the discipline of letting go of old roles during transition, and why obstacles are often opportunities in disguise rather than problems to be solved. This is a conversation about what it actually takes to become the man you were meant to be, not just the one you were told to become. Connect with John Walt Website - JohnWalt.com Email - John@Johnwalt.com (mailto:John@Johnwalt.com) Connect with Motivated Masculine Men Website - www.motivatedmasculinemen.com (http://www.motivatedmasculinemen.com/) Email - brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com (mailto:brotherhood@motivatedmasculinemen.com) If you'd like to be a guest on the podcast, or know someone who would be a great fit, we'd love to hear from you. Get in touch by email. What You'll Learn In this conversation you'll learn: Why John stepped back from financial ambition to intentionally shape his sons over a decade What a dying experience is and why letting go of an old identity is necessary for real transformation How the hero's journey and traditional rites of passage both rely on ego death followed by rebirth The four male archetypes, warrior, lover, wise man, and king, and why balance between them matters more than dominance in one Why wisdom cannot be measured by direct return on investment and what it actually takes to find a mentor How becoming a humble student is often what attracts the right guidance into your life Why modern definitions of provision that focus only on money miss the deeper role men play What provide, protect, and preside actually mean when applied beyond a paycheck How to answer the three fundamental identity questions: your relationship to yourself, to others, and to a larger story Why letting go of an old identity during a career or life transition requires humility, not certainty How to reframe obstacles as opportunities instead of problems using the idea of meaning making Why stepping out of the role of hero in your own story can lead to a more meaningful kind of impact

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