Fuse Energy: From Zero Energy Experience to $400M Revenue
Alan left Revolut to tackle one of the biggest problems of the next 25 years: energy
In this episode, we break down how Fuse Energy scaled to $400M in revenue, raised $170M, and is rebuilding the power grid from scratch full-stack, global, and brutally efficient.
We talk energy economics, AI’s power problem, why renewables alone don’t work (yet), and what it really takes to build a trillion-dollar company.
00:00 Why energy is a trillion-dollar problem
01:54 Being the 5th employee at Revolut
04:19 Finding the right co-founder
06:56 The 25-year bet: energy & AI
09:52 Energy vs fintech regulation
12:55 Why Fuse went full-stack
13:18 Cutting power costs by 30%
15:20 What customers actually buy
16:56 $12B of energy wasted every year
18:56 Why the grid is broken
21:16 EVs, smart devices & demand control
24:55 Why 100% renewables don’t work (yet)
27:18 Nuclear: hype vs reality
29:58 Equity vs debt in energy startups
33:40 Hiring elite engineers globally
34:30 The trillion-dollar vision
Rho
Website - https://www.rho.co/
Public
Website - https://public.com/
Alan Chang
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-chang
Nichole wischoff
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholewischoff/
19 Jan 2026
How We Hit $1 Billion in Revenue in 5 Years: Employee #20 at Deel
Description
In this episode, we sit down with Meltem, one of Deel’s earliest growth leaders, who joined when the company was sub-$250K in revenue and helped scale it into a $1B+ ARR generational company.
00:00 — Joining Deel early & Andreessen backing
03:10 — From agencies to growth in tech
06:40 — Why paid ads break at SMB scale
10:25 — Deel in 2020: sub-$250K revenue
13:45 — What “Head of Growth” really meant
16:20 — First customers: cold emails & Reddit
20:05 — Non-scalable hustle vs long-term growth
24:10 — Competing with PayPal & wire transfers
27:40 — Sales ↔ Growth handoff that actually works
31:15 — Product feedback in hypergrowth
34:30 — First real inflection point
38:10 — Back-to-back fundraises & momentum
41:50 — Founder dynamics & execution speed
45:30 — Deel’s intense culture explained
49:20 — Hiring bar-raisers at scale
52:40 — Growth bets that surprised them
56:10 — Turning channels off to find truth
59:30 — Why she didn’t start a company
1:02:10 — The ideal stage to join a startup
Rho
Website - https://www.rho.co/
Public
Website - https://public.com/
Meltem Kuran Berkowitz
https://www.linkedin.com/in/meltem-kuran-berkowitz
Nichole wischoff
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholewischoff/
31 Dec 2025
Inside Terraform Industries: How to Create Unlimited Energy From Thin Air
In this episode, we sit down with Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries, to break down one of the biggest challenges of the next decade: power.
From solar’s insane cost curve to AI data centers overpowering utilities, Casey explains why cheap, abundant energy will decide which countries — and companies — win next.
00:00 – Terraform’s mission: making fuel from sunlight & air
01:00 – Casey’s background (physics, NASA, Hyperloop → startup)
03:00 – Who Terraform’s customers actually are
04:40 – Energy explained like you’re 5 (how the grid really works)
06:50 – Why electricity changed human civilization
09:40 – Solar + batteries permanently destabilize utilities
11:40 – Why solar suddenly got insanely cheap
12:50 – Solar’s 48% learning rate (this is wild)
14:00 – Will solar dominate all primary energy?
16:30 – Electrification myths (cars, heating, transport)
18:30 – Batteries are about to explode in scale
21:00 – Why Tesla is winning energy, not just cars
23:00 – AI data centers are starving for power
25:00 – Why utilities don’t want hyperscalers
27:50 – Nuclear won’t scale fast enough (hard truth)
29:20 – Why solar beats everything on speed & scale
31:00 – Turning solar energy into fuels & materials
34:40 – Mining metals using pure energy (basalt theory)
38:10 – Will data centers replace utilities?
41:00 – The real long-term energy future
43:40 – Careers at Terraform & final thoughts
Rho
Website - https://www.rho.co/
Public
Website - https://public.com/
Casey Handmer
https://www.linkedin.com/in/casey-handmer/
Nichole wischoff
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholewischoff/
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Podcast Authority Score: 65 / 100
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