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First of Kind, an Indie × Soleio Project

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In music, we have genre-defining artists. In software, we have first-of-kind designers. First of Kind is the story of design and tech told through conversations with its pioneers. Hosted by Soleio. Produced by Room 3. Sponsored by Framer, Cursor, Vercel and Profound. The future belongs to designers who build. firstofkind.com

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March 18, 2026

Everett Katigbak: Indie Streak

<p>What do Anthropic, Facebook, Pinterest and Stripe all have in common?</p><p><br></p><p>Everett Katigbak has played a foundational creative role at some of the most iconic brands in technology. His film work documents the stories of seminal figures who have shaped culture, such as his documentary projects on Stewart Brand and Luis Valdez.</p><p><br></p><p>In this in-depth conversation at his beautiful San Francisco home, Everett describes the “golden thread” that weaves through his non-linear career path, the importance of humanizing infrastructure, and why he believes your side hustle is actually your “true form.” </p><p><br></p><p>As of this recording, Everett has set out on his own to develop an independent creative practice. After years behind the camera, tech’s “brand guru” steps out in front of it.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Intro: “Your side hustle is your true form”</p><p>03:01 Making Facebook Feel Human</p><p>05:04 Getting Hired Because You Don’t Fit</p><p>08:10 Why San Francisco? Place Before Job</p><p>11:33 Analog Research Lab origins &amp; mantras</p><p>13:35 Propaganda, Self-Talk, and Shaping Company Culture</p><p>16:32 Designing for Engagement vs. Meaning</p><p>17:18 Living in Contradictions: Anachronist Meets Futurist</p><p>19:27 How to Pick the Right Company (A Nose for What’s Next)</p><p>21:03 Expansion vs. Mastery: A Different Kind of Career Path</p><p>24:00 Going Independent</p><p>26:24 Inside Cursor as a “Cultural Sleuth”</p><p>28:49 Stories of Unseen Figures: Luis Valdez, Stewart Brand</p><p>32:00 Closing: Advice for Future Pioneers</p><p><br></p><p>S2:E6 Everett Katigbak: Indie Streak</p><p>Hosted by Soleio and produced by Room 3: room3nyc.com @room3nyc</p><p><br></p><p>First of Kind is powered by our sponsors:</p><p>Framer — framer.com</p><p>Cursor — cursor.com</p><p>Vercel — vercel.com</p><p>Profound — tryprofound.com</p><p><br></p><p>Website: firstofkind.com</p><p>YouTube: youtube.com/@firstofkind</p><p>𝕏: x.com/firstofkind</p><p>Threads: threads.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Instagram: instagram.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Hashtag: #FirstofKind</p>

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March 11, 2026

Joseph Cohen: Infinite Ride

<p>What if you designed a new class of vehicle from the ground up?</p><p><br></p><p>Joseph Cohen first cofounded Universe, the mobile-first website builder, before turning his attention to the physical world. He and his brother Eddie Cohen now run Infinite Machine, an automotive company reimagining how people move through cities — not with cars, but with something entirely new, starting with the electric motorcycle.</p><p><br></p><p>We met at Infinite Machine's headquarters in New York City, where Joe walked us through the design philosophy behind “non-car” vehicles, why electrification unlocks radical new form factors, and what it means to bet on autonomous people over autonomous cars.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 – Intro: Color Outside the Lines</p><p>01:50 – A New Symbol for Freedom</p><p>05:52 – The Stolen Vespa</p><p>09:49 – The P1 vs. The Vision Pro</p><p>12:52 – Hard Modernism</p><p>17:26 – Painters Who Paint Factories</p><p>19:42 – Ten Times the Trips</p><p>23:33 – The Vespa Has No Engine</p><p>27:51 – Ask New Questions</p><p>32:00 – The Company as Medium</p><p>34:11 – Outro: What Memories Will You Make</p><p><br></p><p>S2:E5 Joseph Cohen: Infinite Ride</p><p>Hosted by Soleio and produced by Room 3: room3nyc.com @room3nyc</p><p><br></p><p>First of Kind is powered by our sponsors:</p><p>Framer — framer.com</p><p>Cursor — cursor.com</p><p>Vercel — vercel.com</p><p>Profound — tryprofound.com</p><p><br></p><p>Website: firstofkind.com</p><p>YouTube: youtube.com/@firstofkind</p><p>𝕏: x.com/firstofkind</p><p>Threads: threads.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Instagram: instagram.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Hashtag: #FirstofKind</p><p><br></p>

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March 4, 2026

Koen & Jorn: Framer Reloaded

<p>When do you know to pivot or surrender?</p><p><br></p><p>Koen Bok and Jorn van Dijk co-founded Framer, the web design platform that helps designers ship beautiful sites fast. 55% of YC companies run on it. Designers love it. But Framer almost didn't make it.</p><p><br></p><p>What began as a high-fidelity prototyping tool born inside Facebook's design culture became—after a near-death pivot five years in—the premier site builder for designers who ship. </p><p><br></p><p>Over drinks at the Lone Palm in San Francisco, Koen and Jorn recall what it took to step back from the brink of oblivion and chart a new course — for themselves and the field of digital design.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Intro: Lone Palm, Last Call</p><p>01:34 What is Framer Today?</p><p>02:39 Pick a Problem You Love</p><p>06:14 Three Interactions to Fifty</p><p>08:20 Rough Riding / Why VC is Good</p><p>11:38 Three Options Left</p><p>14:31 The Pivotal Lunch</p><p>20:46 Act III: Solving the Walkie-Talkie</p><p>29:08 Artistry meets Wall Street</p><p>32:20 Stay Weird, Keep Building</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to Jane Seabrook and the Lone Palm team for permitting us to film the first ever video podcast at their storied bar.</p><p><br></p><p>–</p><p><br></p><p>Koen Bok &amp; Jorn van Dijk: Framer Reloaded</p><p>First of Kind, S2:E4</p><p>Hosted by Soleio and produced by Room 3: room3nyc.com</p><p><br></p><p>First of Kind is powered by our sponsors:</p><p>Framer — framer.com</p><p>Cursor — cursor.com</p><p>Vercel — vercel.com</p><p>Profound — tryprofound.com</p><p><br></p><p>Website: www.firstofkind.com</p><p>𝕏: x.com/firstofkind</p><p>Threads: threads.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Instagram: instagram.com/firstofkind_</p><p>Hashtag: #FirstofKind</p><p><br></p>

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In music, we have genre-defining artists. In software, we have first-of-kind designers. First of Kind is the story of design and tech told through conversations with its pioneers. Hosted by Soleio. Produced by Room 3. Sponsored by Framer, Cursor, Vercel and Profound. The future belongs to designers who build. firstofkind.com

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