"I Hate Most Addiction Films": How Director Aaron Strand Broke Almost All Of The Rules
We're so accustomed to the tropes of addiction related films. Recovery is inspiration. There's a happy ending. The story is over when your protagonist comes out of therapy. As I listen to this conversation, it even invades how we talk to the directors of films.
But my guest today, Aaron Strand, director of the brilliant film WITHDRAWAL (2025) (https://boxd.it/Tb2Q), thinks about all of these things differently: he hates addiction films because normally directors try to "inflict pain on people for them to act correctly." He encourages filmmakers to "clean up their side of the street before starting to tell [their] story."
The concept of great art only coming from the tortured artist is a lie; stability has given him the ability to make a great film.
He went to NYU to study acting and a few years later came out a storyteller with something significant and truly unique to say. Aaron will change how you think about so many things: indie films and their theatrical tours; Slamdance; the money pit of FilmFreeway; how to tell a true addiction story, and a lot more.
In this episode, Aaron and I talk about:
how a narrative film like WITHDRAWAL helps explain why so many documentaries are going for that feel -- because it's powerful;
ensuring a film about trauma didn't cause trauma for the cast and crew;
if the story is hard for him to talk about;
his description of the film;
choices made that showcase class differences in the film;
his start studying acting at NYU and if he ever imagined making this film;
advice for acting students now;
when he knew he was ready to tell this story after ten years, especially after his first feature fizzled out;
his thoughts on people tackling difficult subject matters;
what he hates about addiction films;
the hardest day on set for WITHDRAWAL;
his article on Slamdance's Substack about independent film (even though his film didn't get into Slamdance);
the film tour for WITHDRAWAL and what projects might not work that way;
indie filmmaking with young kids;
what's next for him and when WITHDRAWAL will be streaming.
Aaron's Indie Film Highlights: A CELL PHONE MOVIE (2025) dir. by Will Sterling (https://boxd.it/TphU); THAT FRIEND (2026) dir. by Will Sterling and Alex Wall (https://boxd.it/PFDE); META TAKE ONE (2025) dir. by John Dierre and Ryan Dutter (https://boxd.it/TIfy)
Memorable Quotes:
" I would be pretty hard-pressed to explore this subject without being exploitative of the people involved."
" I do think that there's value in being open and talking about your past and moments of your past that are not just like the shiny parts that you usually show on social media."
" I started working out in the theater world of New York and that was something that was a point of tension at NYU."
"Everything about this film emerged from the wreckage of the other one."
On FilmFreeway: " I generally consider any sort of offer, anyone reaching out to you to be a scam unless they're gonna give you a full waiver code."
" I'm only going to theaters that will give me a ticket split deal."
"Certain genres are easier to market than others."
Links:
Follow Aaron On Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/strandedonstage/?hl=en)
Follow WITHDRAWAL On Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/withdrawalfilm/?hl=en)
Aaron's Slamdance Substack Article (https://slamdancefilmfestival.substack.com/p/just-because-you-build-it-doesnt)
2 Oct 2026
"It's Actually A Sunny Day In Ireland" Damian McCann, director of AONTAS (2025), Ireland's Oscar Pick for 2027
The most Irish friendly film podcast is back with another Irish guest, director Damian McCann, who brings a host of firsts with him -- first Irish language film made in Northern Ireland; first guy to be doing the laundry when he found out that his film, AONTAS (2025) (https://boxd.it/SEHG), is Ireland's nominee for the 2027 Oscar for Best International Film; and first guy to ask his parents about how to rob a bank and then use that information to make a banger of a heist film.
On the last part: maybe. Hopefully. This is fantastic filmmaking that moves the bar foward for original screenwriting; Irish language films; and Irish filmmakers. Here's to hoping we get to hear some Irish at the 2027 Oscars.
Damian and I discuss:
the weather in the film -- they rent RAIN MACHINES in Ireland?;
why it's important that his new film is the first Irish language film made in Northern Ireland;
how he got his start in filmmaking;
the choice of making an Irish language film;
what he took from his first feature and documentary work;
the format of reverse chronology;
how he researched robbing banks;
linking objects to visually tell people about flashbacks instead of text;
is there a reverse chronology club of filmmakers who tried this concept?
how he found out about Ireland's nomination for the Oscars and what the campaign looks like;
the production company he founded to create bilingual films and what's next for him.
Damian's Indie Film Highlights: KNEECAP (2024) dir. by Rich Peppiatt (https://boxd.it/ILxI); THE QUIET GIRL (2022) dir. by Colm (https://boxd.it/yvgm)Bairéad (https://boxd.it/yvgm); (https://boxd.it/yvgm) FOUR MOTHERS (2024) dir. by Darren Thornton (https://boxd.it/EUa6)
Memorable Quotes:
" It's actually a sunny day in Ireland, which is such a rarity that we are-- you're actually legally not allowed to complain at all throughout the day."
" I often say that a lot of Irish speakers will talk this way, that you're an activist first and then your job second."
"I just had it in my head that I wanted to make a heist film."
"As soon as you start writing [reverse chronology], you realize why people don't do it very often."
"The ideal case here is some people hate it and some people love it."
"The phone rings, do you fancy the Oscars?"
Links:
Follow Púca Pictures (https://www.instagram.com/puca_pictures/)
25 Sept 2026
Paula González-Nasser — Six Years Scouting, One Film: THE SCOUT (2025)
Not a pop psychology show, but if it was, I'd explore more with my guest, writer and director Paula González-Nasser of the brilliant film THE SCOUT (2025), how she made her first feature about a job she didn't care for. I can't imagine a scenario where she was working as a location scout, and thought, this is my first feature film.
And yet.
THE SCOUT works brilliantly as a observational movie about the little seen lives of location scouts, even though their work has an outsized influence on the sets that you see in films. She captures all the little nuances of that life through wide shots and long takes. And she's here to share how she made it happen.
Paula and I talk about:
the theatrical premiere of THE SCOUT at the Film Forum -- including Q&As on September 25th and September 26th (https://filmforum.org/film/the-scout)!
how she responds to the criticism that the film is slow;
how much of her location scouting experience for six years winds up in the film and when she realized the job was her debut feature;
the shocking part that the film only worked for her when she stripped out her own personal experience;
the unexpected setup required for wide, static, long takes and the incredible work by her DP;
how she knew when it worked;
why she kept her main character, played by Mimi Davila, away from the supporting cast;
the process between its premiere and its theatrical debut;
what's next for her.
Memorable Quotes:
" If the slowness is by design, I hope people can at least understand or appreciate the reasons behind it, even if they don't like it."
"I'm so glad that it took me not doing the job anymore and having some distance away from it to really appreciate the job."
"I don't think I would have said yes to dinner. That's where I draw the line."
"I was very naive in thinking like, "Oh, I could just do these wide shots in the same amount of time." And it's like, no, it requires a lot of setup and lighting and timing and blocking."
"This film should be observational almost in the same way that the scout is observing these spaces and the people within these spaces."
"My style or my voice, I don't think has changed. If anything, I've really leaned into what I discovered about myself through this film."
Links:
THE SCOUT at the Film Forum (https://filmforum.org/film/the-scout)
Follow Paula On Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p.a.gn/)
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