Fish Water People

About Fish Water People

At CalTrout, we work hard every day to restore California’s freshwater ecosystems and to keep them healthy for years to come, but we don’t do it alone. The Fish Water People podcast highlights the individuals who make our work possible, at CalTrout and beyond. Join podcast host and CalTrout Executive Director Curtis Knight as we talk about the science, policy, restoration, equity, and more that goes into making the changes we want to see in the world. The Fish Water People podcast is brought to you by California Trout and Bridget Shaw and Drew Alvarez at Pusher, Inc.

Publisher

California Trout

Category

science

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

7 Apr 2023

Latest episode

7 Jul 2025

Latest episodes

17 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   7 Jul 2025

   Restoration Takes Everyone, with Griff Griffith and Chuck Bonham

   Natural resource interpreter Griff Griffith and California Department of Fish and Wildlife Director Chuck Bonham discuss forest restoration, balancing conservation with community needs, and California's potential as a model for natural resource stewardship in this interview episode.

2. 

   29 May 2025

   Guided by Nature, Governed by Law with Michael Rogner & Karrigan Börk

   Restoration expert Michael Rogner details River Partners' riparian habitat restoration in California's Central Valley, while law professor Karrigan Börk examines California water law and ecological protection in this interview episode.

3. 

   28 Jan 2025

   Connections and Crossings: Wildlife in the Modern World, with Beth Pratt and Ben Goldfarb

   From P-22 - dubbed the "Brad Pitt of mountain lions" - navigating LA freeways to steelhead battling urban barriers, the latest Fish Water People podcast episode dives into an urgent question: how can we help wildlife move through a world designed primarily with human movement in mind? Join us as we connect with Beth Pratt, wildlife advocate, author, and California Director for the National Wildlife Federation, who reveals why data alone is not enough to motivate environmental action. She discusses how compelling personal stories transformed public perception of urban animals and drove the construction of the world’s largest wildlife crossing, the Wallis Annenberg Wildlife Crossing in Los Angeles County. Ben Goldfarb, journalist, author, and Beaver Believer, also joins the conversation and reveals how innovative crossings - from overpasses to culverts - give animals new paths to survival. Together, these conservation leaders are painting a realistic picture of how cities and wildlife can coexist, one crossing at a time. This episode was recorded prior to the catastrophic fires in LA. Our hearts are with all those affected, and we are devastated for the communities that have been so quickly and shockingly displaced by these fire events. For those seeking assistance or looking for ways to help, please explore the below resources. Resources for those affected: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KMk34XY5dsvVJjAoD2mQUVHYU_Ib6COz6jcGH5uJWDY/[…]Ri24fIxe9aMSv-llwdHVOO4AlbYQwX4oAg_aem_C43zmedFY43xZbhHxML6Pw (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KMk34XY5dsvVJjAoD2mQUVHYU_Ib6COz6jcGH5uJWDY/htmlview?usp=sharing&fbclid=IwY2xjawIHHgZleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYdho611RgPabEu89ke9-zhkRi24fIxe9aMSv-llwdHVOO4AlbYQwX4oAg_aem_C43zmedFY43xZbhHxML6Pw) Ways to help (LA Times): https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-08/how-to-help-victims-of-pacific-p[…]cf18-fcec4d0f13-232602681&mc_cid=fcec4d0f13&mc_eid=9d09952d18 (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-08/how-to-help-victims-of-pacific-palisades-eaton-and-hurst-fires?utm_source=California+Trout+List&utm_campaign=fcec4d0f13-CAMPAIGN-Photo-Contest-2020-Winners_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cf2a51cf18-fcec4d0f13-232602681&mc_cid=fcec4d0f13&mc_eid=9d09952d18) Ways to help (KQED): https://www.kqed.org/news/12021150/where-to-donate-help-los-angeles-wildfire-eaton-fire-palisades-pasadena (https://www.kqed.org/news/12021150/where-to-donate-help-los-angeles-wildfire-eaton-fire-palisades-pasadena)

4. 

   18 Dec 2024

   The Klamath: Behind the Scenes, with Shane Anderson and Brook Thompson

   Join us for behind the scenes stories from the Klamath River as we explore the before and after of this historic dam removal project. We chat with Shane Anderson, 2x Emmy award winning documentary filmmaker, and Brook Thompson, Yurok & Karuk Native and Ph.D. Student. Damon Goodman, CalTrout Regional Director, also joins the conversation to share some exciting updates from CalTrout's monitoring program on the Klamath as we work to uncover and better understand the impacts of dam removal. Learn more about our work here (https://caltrout.org/projects/tracking-the-repopulation-of-fishes-after-dam-removal-on-the-klamath-river).

5. 

   2 Aug 2024

   Reel Talk: Angling Perspectives Across California, with Kelsey Gallagher, John Fochetti, and Michael Wier

   Join us for a fishy episode of the Fish Water People podcast as we explore the diverse angling opportunities across California! We chat with Kesley Gallagher, CalTrout board member and life-long angler, John Fochetti, fishing guide in Northern California, and Michael Wier, CalTrout videographer, field reporter, and big fish aficionado. Our guests take us on a journey through California's remarkable fisheries, starting with the challenging corbina hunts on SoCal beaches. From these adventures, we venture to the majestic waters of the North Coast, uncovering world-class trout fishing hotspots around Redding. We also explore the exhilarating experience of CalTrout’s Five Rivers Challenge, where anglers fish five rivers in just three days. Throughout the episode, our guests share their unique experiences, valuable insights, and deep love for California's waters. Whether you're an avid angler or simply appreciate the Golden State's aquatic wonders, this episode is sure to reel you in! Guest biographies: John Fochetti: John Fochetti Fly Fishing has been operating in Northern California for over 16 years, and throughout that time he has gained intimate knowledge of the many waters of Northern California. In addition, the countless hours have honed his skills as a teacher, welcoming novice and advanced anglers alike. He guides the Klamath, Trinity, Pit, Hat, Mccloud, Upper Sacramento, Lower Sacramento, Fall River, and Shasta Lake for trout steelhead and bass. Kesley Gallagher: She has 24 International Game Fish Association (IGFA) records and she is an IGFA Representative for California. She is an Elite Sage Pro, and has been fly-fishing since 10 years old. The largest fish she has landed on fly is a striped marlin at 135# in Magdelena Bay and the largest trout she has landed was 21.5# from Pyramid Lake in Nevada.

6. 

   17 Jun 2024

   A Historic Win for Southern Steelhead: Understanding the Endangered Listing, with Dr. Sandra Jacobson and Redgie Collins

   Step into the spotlight with Southern steelhead! These iconic fish are making headlines from Politico to the LA Times, but what’s behind the buzz? Dive into the latest episode of the Fish Water People podcast, where Dr. Sandra Jacobson, CalTrout’s South Coast and Sierra Headwaters Regional Director, and Redgie Collins, CalTrout’s Legal and Policy Director, explore the landmark decision to list Southern steelhead as endangered under California’s Endangered Species Act. Journey from CalTrout’s role in spearheading the petition to the unanimous Fish and Game Commission vote, unraveling the critical role of science, policy, and community support in securing protections for these iconic fish. Together, we’ll uncover the decision’s significance, its impact on California’s waterways, and the challenges posed by fish passage barriers. Our collective efforts in habitat restoration, dam removal, and legislative action culminated in this groundbreaking milestone. Join us in celebrating this triumph and charting the path forward for conservation efforts, while uncovering fun Southern steelhead facts along the way! Hint: steelhead are one of the only living organisms to change their gene expression to tolerate both salt water and freshwater environments!

7. 

   16 Apr 2024

   Breaking Barriers: Inside the Klamath Dam Removal Project, with Mark Bransom

   Ever wondered what it takes to orchestrate a river’s rebirth? Join Fish Water People podcast host and CalTrout Executive Director, Curtis Knight, as he dives into the latest updates on the monumental Klamath River dam removal and restoration project. In this special short-tape episode, Curtis welcomes Mark Bransom, CEO of the Klamath River Renewal Corporation, back to the show to discuss recent developments in the removal of dams along the Klamath River. From breaching dams to managing sediment flow, Mark provides an insider’s perspective on the challenges and triumphs of this once-in-a-lifetime restoration endeavor. Don’t miss out on this riveting journey of resilience and renewal of one of California’s most iconic rivers! If you share our vision of a better California and resilient wild fish and you want to be a part of it, now is the best time of the year to do it. Join us at our annual Trout Camp Gala in San Francisco on May 3. Learn more and buy a ticket here: https://caltrout.org/trout-camp-gala (https://caltrout.org/trout-camp-gala)

8. 

   15 Mar 2024

   Win-Wins for Rivers and Ranches, with Mike Belchik and Gareth Plank

   How can conservation groups, Tribes, and ranchers come together to create healthier watersheds? Hear from CalTrout Mt. Shasta/Klamath Regional Director Damon Goodman, Yurok Tribe Senior Fisheries Biologist Mike Belchik, and Farmers Ditch Company member Gareth Plank on how the three groups work together to realize a better future for the Scott River Valley. The Scott River, one of the largest Klamath River tributaries, is a crucial source of water for farms and ranches. The river also provides unique and highly productive habitat for fish including Chinook salmon, federally threatened coho salmon, steelhead, and Pacific lamprey, all of which the Yurok Tribe depends on for sustenance and ceremony. In recent years, fish numbers have declined on the Scott, due in large part to the extended drought, legacy environmental damage from the gold mining era, and disease outbreaks in the main-stem Klamath. In 2023, CalTrout, the Yurok Tribe, and Farmers Ditch Company signed a Memorandum of Understanding for collaborative work that envisions a future where salmon populations and family farms both flourish. The primary objectives of the partnership are to restore salmon habitat and improve on-farm water use efficiency on the main-stem Scott River. Learn more about the partnership and the exciting projects it has spawned in the latest episode of Fish Water People! Water touches all of us in both practical and magical ways. What's your relationship with water? What makes California’s rivers and waterways special to you? Let us know! To have your voice featured on an upcoming episode of the show, record a voice memo and email it to ⁠⁠podcast@caltrout.org⁠⁠ (mailto:podcast@caltrout.org).

9. 

   5 Feb 2024

   Science's Role in the Story of Recovery, with Stephanie Carlson & Gabe Rossi

   Life history diversity in salmon and trout populations is crucial to building resilience - especially in a rapidly changing environment. But what is life history diversity all about? And how can scientific research leave the lab and inform actual on-the-ground recovery actions? We talk with UC Berkeley and CalTrout collaborators Stephanie Carlson, Ph.D., and Gabe Rossi about science's role in the story of recovery and restoration as an action to unlock life history diversities for fish. You can think of salmon life history diversity like a financial portfolio: a diverse portfolio will be much more resilient to the changes happening around it than one with all the same assets. We zoom in to the Eel River where salmon have faced incredible adversity and yet are still showing up, and we explore applied science, CalTrout and UC Berkeley's collaboration in the watershed, and optimism for a return to abundance. Darren Mierau, CalTrout's North Coast Regional Director, also joins the conversation to discuss his team's work in the Eel River watershed with Cal Poly Humboldt to understand non-native pikeminnow as a threat to salmonids and the team's efforts to suppress this non-native predator population. When the academic world joins forces with entities like CalTrout that are enacting restoration projects, we can have a real chance for recovery of these fish species hovering on the brink. Water touches all of us in both practical and magical ways. What's your relationship with water? What makes California’s rivers and waterways special to you? Let us know! To have your voice featured on an upcoming episode of the show, record a voice memo and email it to ⁠podcast@caltrout.org⁠ (mailto:podcast@caltrout.org).

10. 

    5 Jan 2024

    Stories of Abundance, with Obi Kaufmann

    What does art have to do with salmon? And how can we use art as a tool and practice to improve and better understand the natural world around us? We talk with prolific illustrator, author, and naturalist Obi Kaufmann about how art as a form of storytelling can hold the key to a better future for all of us. We explore stories of abundance, myths, science, and history in our quest to unravel California's complex relationship with and reliance upon fresh water. Water touches all of us in both practical and magical ways. What's your relationship with water? What makes California’s rivers and waterways special to you? Let us know! To have your voice featured on an upcoming episode of the show, record a voice memo and email it to podcast@caltrout.org (mailto:podcast@caltrout.org).

11. 

    14 Nov 2023

    Managing Natural Resources, with Wade Crowfoot and Jacob Katz

    California is a national and global leader for environmental solutions. But how does resource management in California actually work? We talk with the person who leads it all, California's Secretary for Natural Resources Wade Crowfoot, to find out how California approaches resource management and how the state tackles key priority areas including water, climate change, and outdoor access for all. Beyond California, we explore international conservation initiatives including the 30x30 initiative which strives to conserve 30% of lands and waters by 2030. CalTrout Lead Scientist Jacob Katz also joins the conservation as we explore the Sacramento Valley floodplains and the important sources of fish food that these natural landscapes can provide when activated.

12. 

    21 Sept 2023

    What Water Wants, with Erica Gies and Nick Bouwes

    How are people around the world interacting with water? We talk with award-winning journalist and National Geographic Explorer Erica Gies about her book “Water Always Wins: Thriving in an Age of Drought and Deluge”. In the Netherlands, we explore how the Dutch are helping to lead the way on progressive floodplain management techniques. In the Central Valley, we touch on how climate change is influencing groundwater supplies. We also bring beavers into the conversation! Nick Bouwes, an aquatic ecologist, shares his experiences at the forefront of efforts to re-introduce beavers back into watersheds here in the Western U.S.

13. 

    10 Aug 2023

    Undamming the Klamath: A Deep Dive, with Amy Cordalis and Mark Bransom

    History is being made right now on the Klamath River. By the end of 2024, four Klamath River dams will be removed — the largest dam removal and river restoration project in U.S. history. We talk with Amy Cordalis, a member of the Yurok tribe, about tribal empowerment, what a restored Klamath River means to native people, and her optimism for the future. Mark Bransom of the Klamath River Renewal Corporation also joins the conversation to walk us through the dam removal process, what we can expect from sediment release from the reservoirs, and post dam removal restoration activities. Join us for this deep dive into the Klamath with an extended episode of the Fish Water People podcast.

14. 

    30 Jun 2023

    A Year of Fishing in California, with George Revel

    Fish Water People podcast host and CalTrout Executive Director Curtis Knight talks about all the great fishing to be had every month in California with George Revel, owner of Lost Coast Outfitters and long-time CalTrout Board of Directors member. George is a three-time National Fly Fishing Champion, rod designer, FFF Master Certified Fly Casting Instructor, and Past President of the Golden Gate Angling and Casting Company. Plus, Fly Fishing Ambassador and renown Trout Camp caretaker Craig Ballenger shares stories about CalTrout's Trout Camp from the very beginning to current day. Did you know there just might be buried treasure amidst the trees, beauty and fishing spots there?

15. 

    6 Jun 2023

    Nature-Based Solutions, with Felicia Marcus

    Our planet is changing drastically, but while nature is throwing a lot at us, it's also an amazing source of solutions if we take the time to learn how natural processes can aid in climate-change mitigation. Plus, nature-based solutions are often cheaper and come with a whole host of benefits that traditional infrastructure lacks. We talk with climate expert Felicia Marcus, an attorney, consultant, and founding member of the Water Policy Group, a fellow at the National Academy of Public Administration, and the William C. Landreth visiting fellow at Stanford University's Water in the West Program. CalTrout Associate Director of Policy Analise Rivero also joins the conversation as we discuss how crucial California water rights are, a topic that will impact us all, and we explore why California is so far behind other states in how we regulate water.

16. 

    7 Apr 2023

    California's North Coast, with Congressman Huffman

    Fish Water People podcast host and CalTrout Executive Director Curtis Knight sits down with Congressman Jared Huffman to talk Governor Newsom’s Executive Order in the delta, the Potter Valley hydroelectric project, restoration work at Redwood Creek, the Yurok Tribe, California condors, and so much more. How do all of these topics intertwine with CalTrout’s work? We journey through the redwoods to find out. Congressman Huffman weighs in with his district’s perspective, and CalTrout Regional Director Darren Mierau also joins the conversation. Learn more about CalTrout and our work to ensure healthy waters and resilient wild fish for a better California. Visit caltrout.org (https://caltrout.org).

17. 

    7 Apr 2023

    Introducing Fish Water People

    At CalTrout, we work hard every day to restore California’s freshwater ecosystems and to keep them healthy for years to come, but we don’t do it alone. The Fish Water People podcast highlights the individuals who make our work possible, at CalTrout and beyond. Join podcast host and CalTrout Executive Director Curtis Knight as we talk about the science, policy, restoration, equity, and more that goes into making the changes we want to see in the world. And of course you can expect the occasional fish story! Learn more about CalTrout and our work to ensure healthy waters and resilient wild fish for a better California. Visit caltrout.org (https://caltrout.org/).

Who has been a guest on Fish Water People

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Griff Griffith
• Chuck Bonham
• Michael Rogner
• Karrigan Börk

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Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

11 ratings

Spotify

5.0 / 5

12 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 31 / 100

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34

Social presence

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YouTube

0

Engagement

71

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