This sister and brother doctor duo task themselves with dismantling the kyriarchy in medicine, mental health, and society-at-large. Dr. Nia J. Heard-Garris (MD, MSc)-- a physician and researcher by day and scholar-activist by night and will not stop until structural racism is eliminated. Dr. Nevin J. Heard (PhD) has a background in clinical counseling and focuses on multicultural and social justice issues. Nevin's work centers the lived realities of folx living at the intersections of marginalized identities. These siblings have engaged in cultural commentary since they were in diapers. Flesh 'N Bold will continue those conversations coupled with data, science, and guest appearances. We will make these ivory-tower discussions digestible for the dinner table. Flesh 'N Bold invites you to join the family as we listen, reflect, and challenge one another to enact change one podcast at a time.

Flesh 'N Bold
Claim This Podcastby Nevin J. Heard, PhD and Nia Heard-Garris, MD, MSc
Podcast Overview
This sister and brother doctor duo task themselves with dismantling the kyriarchy in medicine, mental health, and society-at-large. Dr. Nia J. Heard-Garris (MD, MSc)-- a physician and researcher by day and scholar-activist by night and will not stop until structural racism is eliminated. Dr. Nevin J. Heard (PhD) has a background in clinical counseling and focuses on multicultural and social justice issues. Nevin's work centers the lived realities of folx living at the intersections of marginalized identities. These siblings have engaged in cultural commentary since they were in diapers. Flesh 'N Bold will continue those conversations coupled with data, science, and guest appearances. We will make these ivory-tower discussions digestible for the dinner table. Flesh 'N Bold invites you to join the family as we listen, reflect, and challenge one another to enact change one podcast at a time.
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May 25, 2024
Flesh 'N Bold talks Legacy, Legacy, Legacy!
<p>Are we here already? We are at the last episode of Flesh “N Bold plus Mom. During this episode, Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris round out the retirement series by talking to their mother about her legacy and the impact she hopes to have had on others. What lessons has she carried with her about wealth, life, and giving? How do wealth transfers work for Black women and does quality of life change as we age? Even more questions…What will your legacy be? Take a listen, talk to your friends, your family, and your future self about what legacy means to you. As Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris wind down, but also ramp up, please like, share, and discuss!</p><p>Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris </p><p>Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear</p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajes.12227">Inherited Prospects: The Importance of Financial Transfers for White and Black College‐Educated Households’ Wealth Trajectories - Taylor - 2018 - The American Journal of Economics and Sociology - Wiley Online Library</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-3547143/v1">https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-3547143/v1</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10834-024-09956-w">‘This is How you Will Make It’: Mothers, Othermothers, and Black Women’s Family Financial Socialization</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/euiinb7ww35bzqlxdbfvy/Mothering_While_Black_Boundaries_and_Bur.pdf?rlkey=vq4m15h702zl03otjwpjg6dbz&dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/euiinb7ww35bzqlxdbfvy/Mothering_While_Black_Boundaries_and_Bur.pdf?rlkey=vq4m15h702zl03otjwpjg6dbz&dl=0</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J083v34n01_05">Quality of Life Satisfaction Among Black Women 75 Years and Older</a></p>

April 28, 2024
Strong For You: Grief N' Elderhood
<p>We know, we know, no one wants to talk about the end of life, death, or dying. But we are all going to die at some point, so let’s put it all out in the open. How do the aged population think about death? Do they get lonely when those around them cross to the other side? Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris explore their mothers’ experiences and feelings of grief, loss, and the trope of being a “strong Black woman.” In this episode of Flesh 'N Bold, our hosts explore who helps the helper b.k.a the strong Black woman, when she needs help, what about what to do when the future you expected is taken from you, and how do you avoid isolation? Listen up, grab your friends, your family, and your significant others and let Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris walk you through this interesting penultimate act with their mothers. And always, please like, share, and discuss!</p><p>Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris </p><p>Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear</p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://dspace.library.uvic.ca/items/397d8364-6469-46d0-b5ff-f53f70160c5c"><strong>Mourning me: An interpretive description of grief and identity loss in older adults with mild cognitive impairment (MCI) (</strong></a><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://uvic.ca"><strong>uvic.ca</strong></a><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://dspace.library.uvic.ca/items/397d8364-6469-46d0-b5ff-f53f70160c5c"><strong>)</strong></a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2190/A327-66K6-P362-6988"><strong>Disenfranchised Grief and Nonfinite Loss as Experienced by the Families of Death Row Inmates - Sandra J. Jones, Elizabeth Beck, 2007 (</strong></a><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://sagepub.com"><strong>sagepub.com</strong></a><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2190/A327-66K6-P362-6988"><strong>)</strong></a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=help-seeking+behaviors+of+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084107992&u=%23p%3DS8Z9q15Wt9oJ">https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=help-seeking+behaviors+of+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084107992&u=%23p%3DS8Z9q15Wt9oJ</a> </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=grief%2C+strong+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084424140&u=%23p%3DQSZPuW9cEegJ">https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=grief%2C+strong+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084424140&u=%23p%3DQSZPuW9cEegJ</a> </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.caregiver.org/news/tips-supporting-senior-widowed-parent/">https://www.caregiver.org/news/tips-supporting-senior-widowed-parent/</a> </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS893US893&oq=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCDMwMjVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">https://www.google.com/search?q=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS893US893&oq=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCDMwMjVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8</a> </p>

March 30, 2024
Healthcare 'N Retirement: Part deux, the visits (Part II)
<p>In this part two episode of health and retirement Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris continue their discussion on healthcare. Our dynamic duo picks right back up in this conversation with their mother on government-sponsored insurance and how the intersectionality of age, race, and gender shape healthcare experiences. And Dr. Heard-Garris gives us a first-hand account of her struggles. And it's clear Knuck if you buck was more than a song for her. Do doctors never listen? Does Black peoples’ pain matter? Should you ever go to the doctor alone? Here is the episode, you've been waiting for…so, please don’t forget to like, share, and discuss!</p><p>Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris</p><p>Music: “Clay”; “Dancing on the Talkfloor"; "Elephants On Parade"; "Gentle Chase"; "LA”; “Pythagoras"; by Podington Bear</p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p>Chrisler, J. C., Barney, A., & Palatino, B. (2016). Ageism can be hazardous to women's health: Ageism, sexism, and stereotypes of older women in the healthcare system. Journal of Social Issues, 72(1), 86-104.</p><p>Hansen, B. R., Hodgson, N. A., & Gitlin, L. N. (2016). It’sa matter of trust: Older African Americans speak about their health care encounters. Journal of Applied Gerontology, 35(10), 1058-1076.</p><p>Kosiak, B., Sangl, J., & Correa-de-Araujo, R. (2006). Quality of health care for older women: what do we know?. Women's health issues, 16(2), 89-99.</p><p>Myers, D., & Trad, M. (2021). Narratives of Older Black Women Communicating With Health Care Professionals. Radiation Therapist, 30(1).</p><p>[pregnancy– may not use ]- Mehra, R., Boyd, L. M., Magriples, U., Kershaw, T. S., Ickovics, J. R., & Keene, D. E. (2020). Black pregnant women “get the most judgment”: A qualitative study of the experiences of Black women at the intersection of race, gender, and pregnancy. Women's Health Issues, 30(6), 484-492</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1080/10410236.2021.1888453">https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1080/10410236.2021.1888453</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/abs/10.1080/073993399245764">https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/abs/10.1080/073993399245764</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://onlinelibrary-wiley-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1111/1467-9566.12141">https://onlinelibrary-wiley-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1111/1467-9566.12141</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/science/article/pii/S0277953622002891">https://www-sciencedirect-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/science/article/pii/S0277953622002891</a></p>
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