22 Sept 2026
Getting Kinky: Exploring BDSM, Fetish and Desire | Shelby Devlin
What if what turns you on is considered kinky, taboo or outside the norm? And what happens when we stop hiding our desires and start exploring them with curiosity, openness and free of shame? And what if the desires we’re taught to hide could actually tell us something important about ourselves?
In this open, thought-provoking conversation, sex and intimacy coach Shelby Devlin talks about the world of kink, BDSM, sexuality and the desires that often sit outside what society considers “normal.” Shelby brings a wealth of experience to a conversation that goes far beyond stereotypes, asking why certain desires become taboo—and what happens when we give ourselves permission to understand them rather than judge them.
The conversation begins by unpacking why kink and BDSM can become part of our “shadow selves”—the parts of our sexuality we may hide because of cultural expectations, shame or fear of judgement. Shelby explores how our environment, experiences and culture can influence what we find pleasurable, and why there may be far more diversity in human sexuality than we're comfortable talking about.
But this episode goes deeper than simply understanding kink. Shelby explores the complex relationship between trauma, agency, power and pleasure, including how consensual kink can sometimes provide a space to explore control, surrender and experiences in a way that can feel empowering. She also makes an important distinction between fantasy and reality—and why understanding that difference matters.
At the heart of the conversation is communication and consent. From negotiating boundaries in BDSM to navigating non-monogamy and talking openly about fantasies, Shelby explains why healthy sexual exploration isn't about getting everything right—it’s about being curious, communicating honestly and continually checking in with yourself and your partner.
The conversation also challenges some of the biggest misconceptions around kink: that BDSM is always about pain, that particular fantasies must have a single psychological cause, or that having a kink means something is “wrong” with you. Instead, Shelby encourages a more curious approach to sexuality—one that embraces self-knowledge, pleasure and the enormous diversity of human desire.
With Shelby's upcoming book The Pleasure Protocol ,(out December 2026) this episode asks a bigger question: What could change if we stopped asking whether our desires are normal—and started asking whether they are understood, consensual, healthy and right for us?
In this episode you will:
Explore why kink and BDSM are often pushed into the shadows of sexuality
Discover why almost anything can become a kink or fetish
Learn the difference between fantasy and reality—and why it matters
Understand the foundations of consent, boundaries and negotiation in BDSM and kink
Explore the relationship between trauma, agency, control, surrender and pleasure
Understand why BDSM isn't necessarily about pain
Explore how self-knowledge and masturbation can help us understand our own pleasure
Consider how gender stereotypes can influence the way we experience and express desire
Learn why curiosity can be a powerful way to reduce shame around sexuality
Explore the role of kink-aware therapists, coaches and sex educators
Explore how honest communication can strengthen sexual and romantic relationships
Consider the challenges of talking openly about fantasies, kink and non-monogamy
Discover why owning your desires doesn't mean you have to act on every fantasy
More from Shelby:
Pre-order The Pleasure Protocol:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pleasure-Protocol-Contemporary-Guide-BDSM-ebook/dp/B0GRSS4YN5 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pleasure-Protocol-Contemporary-Guide-BDSM-ebook/dp/B0GRSS4YN5)
Website:
shelbydevlin.com (shelbydevlin.com)
Instagram:
@coachshelbydevlin
YouTube:
https://youtu.be/fDhEcOThiuM?si=LPLRz_IBBpc8Tna6 (https://youtu.be/fDhEcOThiuM?si=LPLRz_IBBpc8Tna6)
Keywords:
BDSM, kink, sex education, trauma, communication, shadow selves, sexual health, relationships, fetish, societal taboos, sexuality, shame, consent, pleasure, therapy, education, non-monogamy, fantasies