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Having spent over four decades overcoming childhood adversities and helping others with my post-traumatic wisdom, I decided to change careers and pursue my purpose at the age of 49. I became a Certified in Trauma Recovery, Rapid Transformational Therapy Practitioner, and Parts Work soon after, I launched Flip Your Mindset, a podcast that serves as a no-cost entry point for those looking to resolve their own traumas. Through Flip Your Mindset™, my goal is to help listeners transform their perspectives and see their lives through a new lens. As a foul-mouthed, unapologetic Buddhist enthusiast, I'm not afraid to use colorful language to express my emotions, but I draw the line at any derogatory or dehumanizing language. Join me and let's explore new ways to overcome life's challenges and emerge stronger and more resilient than ever before. Thank you for listening. <br/><br/><a href="https://flipyourmindset.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">flipyourmindset.substack.com</a>

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Episode thumbnail for Ep 196: Leaving the Mormon Church: Religious Trauma and Rebuilding Identity with Audra Phelps

August 3, 2026

Ep 196: Leaving the Mormon Church: Religious Trauma and Rebuilding Identity with Audra Phelps

<p>Hi friend,</p><p>I want to tell you about a moment from this week’s episode that I have not stopped thinking about.</p><p>My guest, Audra Phelps, had been out of the Mormon church for eight years. Eight years. She was making Thanksgiving dinner from scratch, the way a good Mormon wife does it, and she noticed she felt resentful in her own kitchen. So she did what I would want any of us to do. She got curious about the feeling instead of pushing it down.</p><p>Why am I resentful?</p><p>Because I don’t like making apple pie.</p><p>Okay, so why am I making apple pie?</p><p>Because it’s my husband’s favorite. Except he had never once asked her to make it.</p><p>So she decided right there she would make her own favorite instead. And she stood in that kitchen, a woman in her forties who had been baking pies her entire adult life, and realized she had no idea what kind of pie she liked.</p><p>That is what identity loss actually looks like. Not a breakdown. Not a dramatic scene. A blank where an answer should be.</p><p>Here is what stayed with me</p><p><strong>Your nervous system keeps the rules long after you stop believing them.</strong></p><p>Audra had already said out loud that she was not Mormon. She had already told her husband, her kids, her parents. The belief was gone. The programming was not. Eight years later it was still running the pie.</p><p>This is the part people miss when they talk about leaving anything, whether it’s a church, a marriage, a family role, a job that shaped who you thought you were. Deciding is the fast part. Your body takes longer, because your body learned those rules as a survival strategy, and survival strategies do not release just because you changed your mind.</p><p><strong>She was taught to distrust herself before she could speak in full sentences.</strong></p><p>When Audra questioned something as a child, she was told those feelings came from Satan and that it meant her faith was weak. Pray more. Read more. Obey more.</p><p>Sit with that. A curious child asks a question, and the answer she gets is that her own inner signal is dangerous.</p><p>I told her while we were recording that my nervous system was activating just hearing it, and I meant that literally. Because I know what happens to a person who is trained to treat her own knowing as a threat. She stops asking. Then she stops noticing. Then one day she cannot answer a question about pie.</p><p><strong>The pattern is not about religion.</strong></p><p>Audra works with women leaving the Mormon church. I work with women leaving narcissistic relationships. We got about twenty minutes in and realized we were describing the same thing with different vocabulary.</p><p>Conditional love. Isolation from anyone outside the system. A smear campaign when you leave. Family recruited against you. And on the other side, a woman who says the same sentence I hear in my practice constantly: I know what I’m not, but I don’t know what I am.</p><p>The container changes. The wound does not.</p><p>The part I want you to take with you</p><p>If you are somewhere in the middle of this right now, questioning something big, not ready to name it out loud, please hear what Audra said. It took her ten years. Ten. She did not wake up one day and walk out. She moved through it letter by letter, and the last letter came when she read something and finally had a visceral reaction she could not talk herself out of.</p><p>You are not behind. You are not weak for taking a long time. Slow is how people leave things that were built to keep them.</p><p>And when you get to the other side and someone asks you what you want, and you have no answer, that is not failure. That is the starting line.</p><p>Start with the pie.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Audra Phelps</strong> Website: https://mamaaudra.com Free masterclass: Five Shifts Every Former Mormon Mom Needs to Make Program: Reclaimed, her 8 week identity rebuild for women leaving the church</p><p><strong>P.S.</strong> Audra ordered a different pie every week until she found her answer. It was blackberry. If you cannot answer a question that small about yourself right now, the HURRT Survey is a good place to start looking at why. It maps how what happened to you before 18 may still be running the show today. Take it free here: https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt</p><p><strong>P.P.S.</strong> If anxiety has been driving the bus for too long, The Calm Code is my 8 week small group program where you learn to heal it from the inside out instead of managing it forever. Details here: https://www.flipyourmindset.com/thecalmcode</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe</a>

Episode thumbnail for Ep 195: Making Sense of Human Behavior

July 27, 2026

Ep 195: Making Sense of Human Behavior

<p>Have you ever caught yourself saying, why am I like this?</p><p>Why can’t I stop overthinking. Why am I still replaying that conversation three days later. Why do I apologize when nothing is wrong. Why do I say yes when every part of me wants to say no.</p><p>Or maybe you’ve never asked those questions about yourself. Maybe you’ve asked them about someone else. Why is my partner so angry. Why can’t my spouse talk about feelings. Why would anyone stay in that relationship. Why does my mother criticize everyone.</p><p>Notice that almost every meaningful question we ask about ourselves or the people we love starts with the same word.</p><p>Why.</p><p>We are desperate to understand behavior. But I don’t think we’ve ever really been taught how. I think we were taught something else. I think we were taught how to judge.</p><p>We label before we ask a single question</p><p>A child melts down in a grocery store and before anyone has asked anything, someone decides that kid is spoiled. Someone drinks too much and we say no self control. Someone doesn’t leave an abusive relationship and we ask why don’t they just walk away. Someone cries easily and we say too sensitive. Someone takes care of everyone else and we say they need boundaries.</p><p>Lazy. Needy. Manipulative. Weak. Difficult. Codependent. Selfish. Dramatic. Toxic. Broken.</p><p>Sometimes the labels aren’t completely wrong. Here’s what I wonder instead: do labels create understanding, or do they sometimes stop us from being curious?</p><p>The moment I believe I already know why somebody behaves the way they do, I stop asking questions. I stop wondering. And I think curiosity is exactly what’s been missing.</p><p>What a detective knows</p><p>One of my favorite things to do is watch detective shows. Not because I’m fascinated by crime. I’m fascinated by the investigation.</p><p>Think about what a detective does not do. They don’t walk into a scene, look down at a footprint and say well, there’s the problem. The footprint isn’t the problem. The footprint is a breadcrumb. It tells us someone was here. It tells us something happened. It points toward a story.</p><p>What if behavior works the same way?</p><p>What if anxiety is evidence. What if perfectionism is evidence. What if people pleasing is evidence. Or emotional shutdown, or controlling behavior, or rage, or avoidance.</p><p>Not evidence that someone is broken. Evidence that something happened, or something was learned, or something had to be adapted to.</p><p>I think most of us spend our lives trying to erase the evidence instead of understanding what the evidence is pointing to. We spend years trying to stop a behavior without ever becoming curious about why the behavior existed in the first place.</p><p>Before you write back to tell me I’m excusing people</p><p>I know some of you are already pushing back. Are you saying every behavior makes sense? Because some behaviors are flat out awful.</p><p>It’s a fair question, and it’s one of the biggest misunderstandings of my work. When I say behavior always makes sense in context, I am not saying every behavior is acceptable.</p><p>I’m not saying abuse is okay. I’m not saying coercive control gets a pass. I’m not saying manipulation should be tolerated because we understand where it came from.</p><p>Understanding is not excusing. Understanding is not permission. Understanding does not mean staying in an unsafe relationship. Understanding does not remove accountability from the person doing the harm. When someone is violent or controlling, safety comes first. Always. No wavering.</p><p>We can work to understand how a pattern developed while also saying clearly: this is harmful, this has consequences, this cannot continue.</p><p>Compassion and accountability are not opposites. If we only have accountability, we become judgmental. If we only have compassion, we become permissive. Healing requires both.</p><p>Curiosity asks how did this happen. Wisdom asks what needs to happen now. Two very different questions, and we need them both.</p><p>The sentence that guides almost everything I do</p><p>Behavior always makes sense in context.</p><p>Not because every behavior is healthy. Not because every behavior is acceptable. Not because every behavior should continue. But because every behavior has a history. Every behavior has a function. Every behavior solved a problem for someone, or at least tried to.</p><p>So the question is not does this behavior make sense. The better question is this:</p><p><strong>What context would have to exist for this behavior to make perfect sense?</strong></p><p>The moment you ask it, you’ve stopped judging. You’ve become an investigator. And curiosity opens a door that judgment slams shut.</p><p>The smoke detector</p><p>If your smoke detector keeps going off, you might be tempted to rip it off the ceiling. I’ve watched people do it. But that’s not where we should start. We should ask what does it think it’s detecting?</p><p>Maybe it’s a real fire. Maybe it’s burnt toast. Maybe my oven is at 500 degrees because I’m making pizza and there’s no fire at all, just heat. Either way, the detector is doing exactly what it was designed to do. It’s working with the information it has. Sense heat, go off. It doesn’t have eyes.</p><p>So I wonder how many of us are walking around with nervous systems that respond to burnt toast as though the house is on fire.</p><p>For years I thought anxiety was attacking me. That my body was betraying me. Then one day I asked a different question. What if anxiety isn’t the problem? What if it isn’t trying to hurt me? What if it’s trying to help me, just with dated instructions?</p><p>That is a completely different conversation.</p><p>Two children</p><p>Imagine a little girl who learned that the safest thing she could do was never upset anyone. So she becomes agreeable, helpful, easy. She learned to read a room before she ever learned to read herself. She noticed when mom was overwhelmed. She sensed when dad was frustrated. She figured out that if everyone else was okay, she was probably okay too.</p><p>Everyone praises her. So mature. Such a good kid.</p><p>And she grows into an adult with no idea how to ask for what she needs, who feels responsible for other people’s emotions, who apologizes for taking up space and feels guilty for resting.</p><p>Should she keep abandoning herself? Of course not. But should she hate the little girl who figured out how to survive something? I don’t think so either. That little girl did exactly what children are wired to do. She adapted.</p><p>Now imagine a different child. This one isn’t anyone’s favorite. Impulsive, reactive, loud, labeled defiant. Constantly corrected. Why can’t you just behave. What’s wrong with you. You always cause problems. Maybe there’s a diagnosis. Maybe there’s chaos at home. Maybe the only attention available came from creating more of it.</p><p>Hear those messages enough times and they stop sounding like something other people say. They become something you say. I’m always the problem. I mess everything up. People would be better off without me.</p><p>A child doesn’t just learn how to behave. A child learns who they believe they are. And once those beliefs take root, the brain gets remarkably good at collecting evidence to support them.</p><p>Neither of those children is broken. One survived by becoming the good one. One survived by becoming the problem. One adaptation was rewarded and one was punished. Both made sense in the context they developed in.</p><p>The part that gives me hope</p><p>If those beliefs were learned, they can be questioned. If those patterns were learned, they can be updated. If your nervous system adapted once, it can adapt again.</p><p>It doesn’t happen overnight, and it isn’t an event. It’s a relationship with yourself. It’s the slow work of teaching your mind and body that the world you’re in today is not the world you learned to survive.</p><p>Which brings me to the biggest misunderstanding about healing. People think healing means becoming somebody else. It doesn’t. Healing is becoming less driven by survival and more guided by your Self. The version of you that existed before fear started writing the script. Healing isn’t creating a new self. It’s uncovering the one that’s been there the whole time, dimmed out in the background.</p><p>That’s why I say healing begins with safety. No nervous system gives up protection until it believes the protection is no longer necessary. You don’t argue a nervous system into feeling safe. You help it experience safety over and over and over, until one day you pause instead of panic, or you say no without apologizing, or you ask for help, or you finally rest.</p><p>Three questions to sit with this week</p><p>* What’s one behavior you’ve spent years criticizing that now makes a little more sense?</p><p>* What’s one person you’ve judged whose story you’re suddenly a little more curious about?</p><p>* What’s one belief about yourself you no longer want to accept without getting curious about it?</p><p>My hope isn’t that you finish this episode thinking well, that was interesting. My hope is that you finish it thinking, maybe I’m not broken.</p><p>Because when behavior begins to make sense, people begin to make sense. When people begin to make sense, shame begins to loosen its grip. Curiosity replaces judgment. Self compassion replaces self criticism. And healing finally has somewhere to begin.</p><p>Until next time, please be curious.</p><p><strong>We cannot heal what we don’t understand.</strong></p><p><strong>P.S.</strong> If you’ve been asking what’s wrong with me for a long time, the HURRT Survey is a good place to start asking a better question. It maps how what happened before 18 may still be running the show today, and you get a personal snapshot right away. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt">Take the HURRT Survey</a></p><p><strong>P.P.S.</strong> The smoke detector analogy in this episode is one of the core frameworks inside The Calm Code, my program for people who are done managing anxiety and ready to understand it. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.flipyourmindset.com/thecalmcode">Learn more about The Calm Code</a></p><p>Want to talk it through with me directly? <a target="_blank" href="https://partners.simply.coach/stacey-uhrig/1-1-consultation">Book a free 75 minute consultation.</a></p><p><strong>Listen elsewhere:</strong> <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7pa0wjLj7p5JAWjmZLtAHM">Spotify</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flip-your-mindset/id1618807948">Apple Podcasts</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@flipyourmindset">YouTube</a> | <a target="_blank" href="http://instagram.com/staceyuhrig">Instagram</a></p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe</a>

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July 20, 2026

Ep 194: The Truth About Adoption Trauma, Attachment, and the Nervous System

<p>“A baby doesn’t remember that? Well, their nervous system does.”</p><p>That line stopped me in my tracks this week.</p><p>My guest on Flip Your Mindset is Kelly Tondre, a trauma therapist, therapeutic coach, adoptive sibling, and adoptive mom of three. Kelly has lived every side of the adoption constellation. And she told me something I wish every adoptive parent heard on day one.</p><p><strong>The wound starts before words</strong></p><p>In the adoption world we call it the primal wound. A baby comes into the world wired for one thing above all: connection. When that first attachment breaks, even at birth, even in the most loving adoption, the nervous system registers it as a threat to survival.</p><p>People love to say “they were adopted at birth, they won’t remember anything.”</p><p>The mind doesn’t remember. The body does. We call it preverbal trauma, and it shapes how a child scans the world for safety long before they can explain what they feel.</p><p><strong>When trauma gets the wrong name</strong></p><p>Here’s where it gets heavy. These kids grow up, their survival responses get bigger, and the only place most families know to go is a general therapist working from a checklist of symptoms.</p><p>So the child collects labels. ADHD. ODD. Anxiety. Bipolar. What Kelly calls the alphabet soup.</p><p>But the diagnosis that actually fits, developmental trauma disorder or complex PTSD, is not even in the manual American clinicians use. So kids get treated for conditions they may not have, the treatment doesn’t work, and parents walk away believing they’re failing.</p><p>Kelly has spoken one on one with hundreds of adoptive parents. 99% of the ones who sought therapy told her the same thing: I had to educate my own therapist.</p><p>Sit with that.</p><p><strong>Love is not enough</strong></p><p>Both Kelly and I were handed the same mantra when we adopted: just love them. Love heals all wounds.</p><p>It doesn’t. Love matters. Love is the ground everything grows from. But love without trauma education sets the whole family up to fail. You cannot love a nervous system into feeling safe while you’re dysregulated yourself.</p><p>That’s the part nobody says out loud. The parent’s nervous system is the most powerful tool in the house. A regulated parent is what helps a dysregulated child find calm. Kelly calls the alternative co-dysregulation: your child’s storm sets off yours, your storm confirms their fear that home isn’t safe, and the loop feeds itself.</p><p>Kelly lived that loop for years. She describes it as driving with the gas pedal and the brake fully pressed at the same time. On the outside, fixing, advocating, problem-solving. On the inside, shutting down.</p><p><strong>The way through</strong></p><p>The work Kelly does now with adoptive and foster parents starts with the parent, not the child. Widening your own window of tolerance. Naming the grief you were never allowed to feel. Accepting the parts of you that are angry, resentful, exhausted, without letting them write the story.</p><p>And underneath all of it, one shift: stop asking what’s wrong with this child, and start asking what happened to them.</p><p>Not everyone is called to foster or adopt. But every one of us knows a family in this constellation. They don’t need our judgment. They need our curiosity and our support.</p><p>Connect with Kelly at <a target="_blank" href="http://tondretherapeutics.com">tondretherapeutics.com</a></p><p>Books we mentioned: What Happened to You by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey, The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog by Dr. Bruce Perry.</p><p>Until next time, I’ll see you on the flip side.</p><p> Work with me → <a target="_blank" href="https://partners.simply.coach/stacey-uhrig/1-1-consultation">https://partners.simply.coach/stacey-uhrig/1-1-consultation</a>]</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe</a>

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Having spent over four decades overcoming childhood adversities and helping others with my post-traumatic wisdom, I decided to change careers and pursue my purpose at the age of 49.

I became a Certified in Trauma Recovery, Rapid Transformational Therapy Practitioner, and Parts Work soon after, I launched Flip Your Mindset, a podcast that serves as a no-cost entry point for those looking to resolve their own traumas.

Through Flip Your Mindset™, my goal is to help listeners transform their perspectives and see their lives through a new lens. As a foul-mouthed, unapologetic Buddhist enthusiast, I'm not afraid to use colorful language to express my emotions, but I draw the line at any derogatory or dehumanizing language. Join me and let's explore new ways to overcome life's challenges and emerge stronger and more resilient than ever before.

Thank you for listening. <br/><br/><a href="https://flipyourmindset.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">flipyourmindset.substack.com</a>

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