For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.

For Heaven's Sake
Claim This PodcastHosted by Yossi Klein Halevi, Donniel Hartman
Published by Shalom Hartman Institute, Ark Media
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For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.
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Recent Episodes

September 16, 2026
Naza: When a Film is the News
Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi interview discuss how the provocative film "Naza" becomes a powerful tool in the global debate over Israel's moral standing.

September 9, 2026
Israel Votes: New Year, New Hopes
Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore how a divided society finds the moral courage for democratic renewal amidst electoral deadlock.

September 2, 2026
Israel's Election: What Do Israelis Really Want?
Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore the paradox of Israel's frozen political landscape amidst underlying societal shifts as they discuss the upcoming elections.
249 total episodes available with 114 transcripts
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Naza: When a Film is the News
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[…] We desperately need a conversation here on what might have gone wrong. And I'm still phrasing it as a question because I don't know. And most Israelis don't know. We don't have anywhere near a total picture. What we all or most of us do sense is that the total picture that's being presented in that film is a lie. And so the question that we have to start confronting is is did we abuse the category of, as you call it, collateral killings, which is an inevitable category in any war, even more so in a war under the conditions that the IDF had to fight, where we're fighting an enemy that doesn't wear uniforms, that deliberately blends in with civilian society, that takes over civilian infrastructure like hospitals, And generally, when Israelis discuss the question of collateral damage, it ends there. […]
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