The For Wild Places Podcast is a campfire of conversations with interesting, accomplished, and inspiring people from the trail running and environmental space. Each month, we sit down with someone for a Trail Chat, and get to know them better.
15. Chasing raw, untamed stories and runners, with adventure photographer and videographer Calumn Hockey
Today's guest, Calumn Hockey, is a self-taught adventure photographer who has shot some of Australia and Aotearoa/New Zealand's most iconic trail and ultra races. This conversation is a little different to our usual trail chats, as Calumn shares stories behind some of his favourite photographs. To see the photos we discuss in this episode, head to this Instagram post [https://www.instagram.com/p/DR_JgnyAbi-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==]. We hear the stories behind the images, and the effort and patience that goes into getting a quality shot. In our follow-up conversation from December 2025, Calumn reflects on the past two years, the impact trail and ultra running have had on his career, and the many places and people he's captured along the way.
Check out more of Calumn's work on his website [https://calumnh.com/] or Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/calumnhockey/]. If you'd like to join Cal at the Gold Coast Backyard Ultra [https://www.instagram.com/goldcoastbyu/], sign up now. [https://www.goldcoastbyu.com.au/]
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30 Nov 2025
14. One race, three endings: The power of patience, mental resilience and optimism with Lou Clifton
Today's guest, Lou Clifton, is an inspiration to so many in the Australian trail and ultra running scene. Lou discovered the world of trail running in 2014 and has since gone on to grace trails and podiums both nationally and abroad. Not only is Lou an elite kick-ass athlete, but she is also incredibly kind, patient, determined, and, pragmatically and unwaveringly, optimistic.
These two conversations span two years, both fresh off one of Lou's most elusive races - The Grampians Peaks Trail 100 Miler. A lot can happen in two years, and these two conversations bookend a challenging time that tested Lou's mental resilience and patience.
Follow Lou's adventures and races on Instagram at @loumclifton [https://www.instagram.com/loumclifton/] or on Strava [https://www.strava.com/athletes/6886908?oq=lou%20clifton].
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21 Nov 2025
13. The meandering and magical story of 'unlikely hiker' turned off-track explorer, Caro Ryan
In today's episode, we're catching up with the effervescent Caro Ryan, aka Lotsa fresh air. Caro is a self-proclaimed unexpected outdoors chick who spends her days exploring the many beautiful multi-day walks across our continent and embracing the freedom of off-track exploration. Caro is the wearer of many hats - educator, tour guide, search and rescue volunteer, podcast host and most importantly, a genuinely kind and bright human.
We first caught up with Caro in December 2023, fresh off Caro's completion of the newly opened Grampians Peaks Trail. We then caught up in early November 2025, where we picked up the conversation talking about storytelling, the pros and cons of social media, and regenerative tourism. [https://www.islanderway.co/regenerative-tourism]
Although the Blue Mountains may be Caro's home trails, she has wandered near and far and has years of experience she is eager to share. Motivated by a desire to give others the tools they need to feel comfortable and get out into nature, Caro is an open book when it comes to her experience navigating the complexity of social media, combining work and pleasure, and our modern approach to adventure.
Sign up for one of Caro's Nav Courses, get a copy of her book or simply get lost in the treasure trove of travel tips at www.lotsafreshair.com [http://lotsafreshair.com/]. You can also follow Caro on Instagram @lotsafreshair [https://www.instagram.com/lotsafreshair/] or YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/user/Lotsafreshair/videos].
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14 Nov 2025
12. The power, pitfalls and practicalities of a purpose-driven life in the outdoors, with Chris Ord
This week, we catch up with Chris Ord, who has helped craft the local trail running scene for over a decade. Chris is the founder of Trail Run Mag and has gone on to found Tour de Trails, which is responsible for some of the most loved and inclusive events on the Victorian calendar. When he's not race directing, Chris is a consultant with TRC Tourism or hosting trail running tours around the world. Our first conversation with Chris took place in October 2023 and covered a lot of ground, including the transformative effect that spending time outdoors in nature has had on Chris and the broader community, which led to him creating a purpose-driven career.
We then caught up two years later, where we continued the conversation on the impacts of climate, and in particular, how Race Directors in Victoria are navigating the risk and reward of hosting epic events in the Alpine over the summer and shoulder months.
Stay up-to-date with Chris's adventures and advocacy on his Instagram account, @onelifewild [https://www.instagram.com/onelifewild/], or discover your next trail event or tour on Tour de Trails' social media [https://www.instagram.com/tourdetrails/] or website [https://tourdetrails.com/].
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4 Nov 2025
11. Unlocking the unstoppable combination of consitency, passion and showing up with Melissa Robertson
In this week's podcast, we catch up with ultra runner, software developer and consistency queen, Melissa Robertson.
Melissa lives on NSW's Central Coast but has explored many of Australia's most iconic trails and races, from backyard ultras to 200-milers and 24-hour events. When she's not training, recovering or travelling, Melissa works remotely as a software developer for the Australian Antarctic Division.
Will first caught up with Melissa in April 2023, fresh off the heels of attempting the Barkley Marathons, a race Melissa described as 'insane'. We then caught up with Melissa in October 2025, two and a half years, and many accomplishments later. We talk about consistency, training in all conditions, her upcoming move to lutriwita/Tasmaia and training for UTMB 2026.
Melissa's love and passion for running is embedded in who she is, and we are so grateful to her for sharing this infectious energy with us. These two conversations serve as a reminder of how much we are capable of when we stop making excuses and get out onto the trails, day after day, rain or shine.
Thank you, Melissa, for being such an inspiration to those juggling 9-to-5 and big, outdoor adventure goals. You can follow Melissa's adventures on Instagram, @melissa_trailrunner. [https://www.instagram.com/melissa_trailrunner/]
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26 Oct 2025
10. Transcending mountains, weekends and the binary, with Aubri Drake
In this week's podcast, we catch up with prolific thru-hiker, weekend explorer and non-binary adventurer, Aubri Drake.
Today's guest, Aubri, lives in Washington State, USA, near the White Mountains, where they love to explore the technical, varied terrain. Aubri is a prolific hiker and has completed many of the US's most iconic hikes.
In our first chat in March 2023, Will and Aubri unpack Aubri's then-recent hiking adventures in Washington State, upcoming ultra-adventures at the Leadville 100, and the extremely concerning state of non-binary politics in the USA.
Our follow-up conversation was in October 2025, and meanders through Aubri's recent exploration into cycling, and their incredible accomplishment of hiking 574 of New Hampshire's 48 4,000-foot peaks. We also discuss the incredibly troubling state of social justice in the United States right now, and reflect on how important and special the trail and outdoor community is during challenging times.
You can follow Aubri's adventures on Instagram, @genderqueer_hiker [https://www.instagram.com/genderqueer_hiker/] or via their blog, Transcending Mountains [https://transcendingmountains.blog/].
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19 Oct 2025
9. The power, pressure and positivity of sports activism with Majell Backhausen
Join us as we chat with ultrarunner and explorer Majell Backhausen, who's raced globally, captured incredible trail footage, and helped grow the Takayna Trail. We discuss his journey from running on a treadmill in the North Sea to supporting community-driven conservation efforts in Australia.
Majell shares highlights from recent events, including raising over $400,000 for the Bob Brown Foundation, and reflects on the power of community and adventure. This episode features two conversations—one from March 2023, before the End to an End documentary, and another from April, after his latest Takayna Trail adventure.
You can follow Majell's adventures on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/majellb/] or hear more from him on Stokely. [https://www.instagram.com/stokelypodcast/?hl=en] Takayna Trail 2026 has already sold out, but you can still register [https://bobbrown.org.au/event/takayna-trail/] to volunteer.
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30 Jun 2025
8. Negotiating the training, travel, racing and injury equation with Simone Brick
Simone Brick discusses her extensive experience in trail and ultra-running, sharing insights on balancing training, racing, travel, and injury prevention, in this interview.
23 Mar 2025
7. Marathons, mindset & movement building: Making positive change with Erchana Murray-Bartlett
Coach, athlete, world record holder, change maker, and overall excellent human are just some ways we can describe today's guest, Erchana Murray-Bartlett. We first caught up with Erchana in November 2022, when she was 89 days into her 150-day, 150-marathon 'Tip to Toe' [https://www.tiptotoe2022.com/] journey. Not only did Erchana smash the world record, but she also raised over $100k to support The Wilderness Society's efforts to end extincions in Australia.
We then checked in with Erchana, just over two years after she finished Tip to Toe. In this conversation, we chat about her recovery, the soon-to-be-released film 150, and her most recent project - running as an independent candidate in the upcoming Australian federal election.
You can follow Erchana's adventures and campaign for McPherson on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/erchana_/], or find out more about her coaching business, Project Run [https://www.projectrun.net/]. If you'd like to share the trails with Erchana, join us at the Pilliga Ultra [https://mailchi.mp/forwildplaces/pilligaultra2025] this September.
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6 Mar 2025
6. Lessons from 25 years in ultra running with Krissy Moehl
US race director, coach, author, and pioneer of the US ultrarunning scene, Krissy Moehl, joins us to chat about all things longevity, community, patience, and adventure. Krissy is a legend of ultra running and has been a part of the sport from its early dirtbag days to race calling at UTMB in 2024. Krissy's lessons in life and running are invaluable, so much so that she's written the go-to book on running your first ultra.
After our initial chat from 2023, we checked in with Krissy in early 2025 to hear how her 23rd-year race directing at the Chuckanut 50 is shaping up and the importance of the community during difficult times.
You can follow along on Krissy's adventures on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/krissymoehl/], check out her impressive racing history or buy a book on her website, [https://krissymoehl.com/] or find out more about the Chuckanut 50. [https://chuckanut50krace.com/]
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27 Feb 2025
5. The joys (and perils) of multi-disciplinary adventures at home and away, with Milly Young
From the plains of WA comes Milly Young, an adventure-seeking, mountain-climbing, ultra-running woman of unstoppable resilience and infectious love of wild places.
We first caught up with Milly to recap her FKT on southwest Tasmania's Port Davey / South Coast Track, where not even a broken toe could stop her from swimming across rivers, smashing gels and ultimately, making it to the finish line. We checked back with Milly from her new hometown of Chamonix, France, where skiing, climbing and running in the mountains keeps her fit, happy and occasionally, injured.
You can find out more about Milly on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mil_young/?hl=en], read more about her 2024 PTL journey via Tracks & Trails [https://www.tracks-and-trails.com/blog/milly-young-puhsing-limits-at-the-ptl], or listen to her podcast, Breaking Trail. [https://open.spotify.com/show/5IJxHRU3r0g1UZS3rAEPgg]
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20 Feb 2025
4. Mountain running, team USA and loving your local trails with Michelle Merlis
US mountain runner Michelle Merlis joins us to talk about motivation, moving in the mountains and managing the balance between training and work.
We then checked in with Michelle two years later to hear how the transition into full-time athlete life is treating her, including moving house, international travel and sharing her trails with friendly black bears.
You can find out more about Michelle on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mountain.runner.michelle/], or via her website [https://www.michellemerlis.com/].
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7 Dec 2024
3. Running with purpose on the AAWT, and other ultra adventures
Matt Gore and Giles Penfold recount their record-breaking 2021 traverse of the Australian Alpine Walking Track, sharing insights on fundraising, trail navigation, and the challenges of creating a feature film about their adventure.
22 Nov 2024
2. Goal setting, embracing new experiences and getting after it with Josh Wiffen
Josh Wiffen, ultrarunner and artist, shares his inspiring journey of perseverance and passion for trail and ultra running, from Western States to Chicamocha Canyon, igniting listeners to plan their next adventure.
13 Nov 2024
1. Sustainability, product design and selling shoes with Sam Burke
Sam Burke, co-founder of Tarkine joins Will and Hilary for our first Trail Chat. We first caught up with Sam in June 2022 as Tarkine's founding crowdfunding campaign was drawing to a close.
We caught up with Sam two years and thousands of pairs of Tarkine's later and got a first-hand account of what it's like to take on global shoe brands.
Tarkine is a Perth-based running shoe company that strives to combine modern running technology with sustainable, well-made footwear. During this chat, we learn about the challenges of making eco-friendly products and what it's like to see people wearing a product you laboured over in the wild.
Find out more about Tarkine here. [https://tarkine.com/]
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10 Nov 2024
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The For Wild Places Podcast is a campfire of conversations with interesting, accomplished, and inspiring people from the trail running and environmental space. Each month, we sit down with someone for a Trail Chat, and get to know them better.
Hosted by FWP co-founder and accident-prone outdoors woman, Hilary McAllister.
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To learn more about For Wild Places, head to our website [https://www.forwildplaces.com/], follow us on socials [https://www.instagram.com/forwildplaces/] or subscribe [https://bit.ly/fwpweeklynews] to our weekly newsletter.
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