Clover Hogan has been on the planet 24 years, and spent the past 13 working to save it. She believes it’s possible. She also believes that the threat even greater than climate change is how powerless we feel to stop it.
In Season 3, Clover invites us behind the scenes of what it’s really like to be a climate activist. You’re going to hear from activists on the stuff that doesn’t get talked about, like burnout, getting cancelled and the ethical compromises of making money. And even what it’s like to alienate friends and family. Over the season, we hope to find some answers: namely, what activism can look like when it's more open, honest and human. Make sure to stick around to the end of each episode, when our guests spill their climate confessions.
Listen to this podcast if you’re anxious that the future will be a dystopian blockbuster. If you know the solution is bigger than buying another reusable coffee cup. And if you want to make a difference but don’t know where to start.
After all, we don't need 100 perfect activists - but millions of imperfect ones.
How to make an oil executive cry: Christiana Figueres and Luisa Neubauer
Sometimes you just have to disrupt the system!
Christiana Figueres is a renowned leader in global climate change, known for her role as Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC from 2010-2016. She successfully led international climate negotiations in Cancun, Durban, Doha, Warsaw, and Lima, culminating in the historic Paris Agreement of 2015. She's credited with pioneering collaborative diplomacy. Today, she co-founded Global Optimism, co-hosts the podcast ‘Outrage & Optimism’, and co-authored ‘The Future We Choose: Surviving the Climate Crisis’.
Luisa Neubauer is a youth climate activist and lead organizer of the German “Fridays for Future“ movement. Luisa was named one of the TIME100 Next of 2022. In 2021, Luisa and others won the landmark constitutional court ruling “Neubauer vs. Germany“ against the German government in a struggle for political climate action. Through her activism she’s met with president Macron, Angela Merkel and Barack Obama and has published three best-selling books on the climate crisis.
In the final episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Christiana Figueres and Luisa Neubauer to explore how to bring about system change to the structures that created and continue to worsen the climate crisis. Firstly, Clover and Christiana explore the importance of finding common ground and creating spaces that foster genuine dialogue and understanding. Then, Clover speaks with Luisa to dive into her experience as a climate justice activist. Stick around to hear Christiana and Luisa spill their climate confessions.
“We don't share our views on the science… But do we share humanity? Are we both a member of the human family? and at least to that question we can always answer a resounding yes” - Christiana Figueres
“It’s not about providing the facts to a head of state, but about providing the facts and the culture and the hope to people everywhere to then be empowered to change, to rise, to build power that challenges the status quo.” - Luisa Neubauer
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How to burnout with a bang: Arifa Nasim
Why has burnout culture been normalised in activism and how can we change it?
Arifa Nasim founded Educate2Eradicate, a non-profit organisation committed to spreading knowledge to prevent the hundreds of thousands of individuals at risk from experiencing forced marriage, genital mutilation and honour-based abuse. Arifa has educated more than 5,000 individuals and plans to grow Educate2Eradicate into a holistic program, training larger organisations and offering counseling and legal advice to victims. Arifa was an official UK delegate to the Sustainable Development Goals Summit.
In the penultimate episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Arifa Nasim to explore why burnout culture has become normalised within activism and what we can do to actively change it. Finally, Arifa spills her climate confession!
Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about female genital mutilation, suicide and forced marriage. So please listen with care.
“There is a reason I’m much happier now; there is time for spiritual rest, and creative rest and physical rest. Now that I know better, I don’t know that I’d ever go back” -Arifa Nasim
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15 Apr 2024TRANSCRIPT
How to have a public meltdown: Mitzi Jonelle Tan
How does the climate crisis make you feel?
Mitzi Jonelle Tan is a full-time climate justice activist based in Metro Manila, Philippines. She is the convenor and international spokesperson of Youth Advocates for Climate Action Philippines, the Fridays For Future of the Philippines. A strong voice on anti-imperialism, anti-colonization, and the intersectionality of the climate crisis, she is committed to changing the system and building a world that prioritizes people and planet, not profit, through collective action.
In the 7th episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Mitzi Jonelle Tan to explore the difference between eco-anxiety and eco-trauma, and how to understand our emotions. They discuss how to keep showing up and the power of community in cultivating mindset shifts from anxiety to agency. Finally, Mitzi spills her climate confession!
“Knowing that you’re not alone in it really helps. Knowing that the collective action aspect of activism is so crucial. Even if you don’t see anyone else who is anxious, there are people who are fighting alongside you fighting.” - Mitzi Jonelle Tan
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[…] And so with those people who I don't share too much with, what I tend to do is go to that common ground first and try to connect to those people at that level and building a bridge with someone before you engage in questions where you know that the answers are going to be difficult for you. […]
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