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2018 First episode About Fork It Fork It 是一个针对区块链技术的中文播客节目，四位主播分别为 Terry (https://twitter.com/poshboytl) , Jan (https://twitter.com/janhxie) , Kevin (https://twitter.com/knwang) 和 Daniel (https://twitter.com/lgn21st)。他们还一起创办过中文技术播客节目 Teahour.FM (http://teahour.fm/)。这一次他们因为区块链技术再一次相聚，并创办了 Fork It. 从一线从业者眼中，了解区块链技术的方方面面和发展方向.... 为了让大家更好的进行交流，我们建立了 Fork It Group (https://t.me/forkitfm)，大家如果对节目、对区块链有任何想法，请在群里尽情讨论～主播们也会积极参与哦。 除了在泛用型播客客户端收听订阅《 Fork It 》，您还可以在喜马拉雅 (https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/19792413/) 、网易云音乐 (https://music.163.com/#/djradio?id=792240368) 和 Google Play Music (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyqhlkv32e3mw6rv2bgw2hj6ehu) 收听节目。 What are you waiting for? Let's Fork It!
Publisher Fork It
Category technology
Language zh
Explicit No
First episode 29 Oct 2018
Latest episode 15 Sept 2022 Latest episodes 24 episodes in the feed.
15 Sept 2022
#23 - PoS 是谎言么？ 本期是由 Daniel (https://twitter.com/lgn21st) 和 Terry (https://twitter.com/poshboytl) 共同主持，我们邀请了 BTCStudy (https://www.btcstudy.org/) 的内容负责人阿剑老师，来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论，他的观点和立场。
阿剑老师曾经是以太坊中文社区非常硬核的研究者，翻译者，内容贡献者，主持人的愿望是话题能够深入浅出，但是阿剑老师实力不允许，所以如果你对 PoW/PoS 以及分布式共识算法的设计思想和基础概念有所了解，那么会帮助你理解为什么通过阿剑老师的分析可以得出 PoW 全面优于 PoS 这个结论。
如果对 “Ethereum Merge” 的问题分析以及什么是 “比特币思想” 更感兴趣，不妨直接跳到 1:10:00 开始听。
访谈结尾处阿剑老师最让我动容的一段话，我摘录于此：一个技术范式应该想到它应该保护自己的用户，它应该保护共识，它应该珍惜每一分来之不易的共识，它应该容纳每一个可能容纳的个体去进入这个生态，去能够用它来继续做梦，去 为一个遥远的我能够想象的美好未来去奋斗。
Show Notes
关于 Ethereum Merge https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge (https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge)
Forkit 关于 PoW v.s. PoS https://forkit.fm/22 (https://forkit.fm/22)
Leslie Lamport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport)
拜占庭将军问题 The Byzantine Generals Problem https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf (https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf)
Stake Grinding attacks 权益研磨攻击 https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack (https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack)
Nothing at stake attacks https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027 (https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027)
Long range attacks https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9 (https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9)
Poelstra：论权益与共识
英文：https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf (https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf)
中文：https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/ (https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/)
PoS的根本缺陷在于循环论证 https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124 (https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124)
social consensus https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51 (https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51)
Weak Subjectivity 弱主观性 https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/ (https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/)
Balancing attack 平衡攻击 https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079 (https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079)
zack-bitcoin：PoS 辩护意见大全
英文：https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md (https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md)
中文：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww)
PoW 与 PoS 的真正区别：判质费用决定了谁更适合构建货币
中文：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA)
对 PoS 的简单批评：
中文：https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/（2020.10）对 (https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/%EF%BC%882020.10%EF%BC%89%E5%AF%B9) PoS 的简单技术批评.pdf
关于大区块以及比特币扩容之争 https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html (https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html)
以太坊的扩容方案以二层 Rollup 为核心 https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698 (https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698)
通过 EIP-4488 降低 Calldata 成本 https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488 (https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488)
Optimistic Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/ (https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/)
Zero-Knowledge Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups (https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups)
Validium Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/ (https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/)
John Adler：基于委员会的分片的安全性与可扩展性
英文：https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193 (https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193)
中文：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg)
Ruben Somsen：SNARK 与区块链的未来：
英文：https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b (https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b)
中文：https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/ (https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/)
Vitalik：Proto-Danksharding FAQ
英文：https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq (https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq)
中文：https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769 (https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769)
EthFans 以太坊爱好者的告别信 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA)
BTCStudy https://www.btcstudy.org (https://www.btcstudy.org)
矿工不会接受EIP -1559，因为这是永久的收益剥夺 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050 (https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050)
失而复得但是评论全部丢失的预言家周报第 130 期《以太坊的隐忧》 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA)
关于被举报的预言家周报第 130 期（在微信中打开可以看评论） https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww)
隔离见证 SegWit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit)
比特币升级提案 Taproot 技术解读 https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/ (https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/)
BTCStudy 文化标签页，了解比特币精神的入口 https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/文化/ (https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96/)
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Nostr https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr (https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr)
Zettelkasten 卡片式笔记方法简介 https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/ (https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/)
北斗儿童3D凹凸地图 https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm (https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm)
Special Guest: 阿剑.
30 Aug 2022
#22 - PoW vs PoS Tornado.cash 被制裁，ETH 即将升级到 PoS, 超过 66% Staking Service 是美国的合规机构。
ETH升级后可能会面临协议级审查吗？如果会，这将意味着什么？如果是 PoW 会不会有什么不同？
带着这些问题，让我们节目的老朋友王博(Cipher) 给你慢慢聊聊 PoW vs PoS 的话题。
Shownotes
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U.S. Treasury Sanctions Notorious Virtual Currency Mixer Tornado Cash (https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0916)
OFAC (https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/office-of-foreign-assets-control-sanctions-programs-and-information)
Ethereum The Merge (https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/)
Mining 向左，Staking 向右——公链的两大演进方向与价值分析 (https://talk.nervos.org/t/mining-staking/3028)
Poll: If regulators ask you to censor at the ethereum protocol level with your validators will you (https://twitter.com/LefterisJP/status/1558944794658873344)
坎蒂隆效应 (https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%9D%8E%E8%92%82%E9%9A%86%E6%95%88%E5%BA%94/9181511)
通往奴役之路 (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%80%9A%E5%BE%80%E5%A5%B4%E5%BD%B9%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF)
Brian Armstrong: … if we did we'd go with B i think… (https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong)
MEV (https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/mev/)
Flashbots (https://github.com/flashbots/pm)
Haseeb (https://twitter.com/hosseeb)
How DeFi cannibalizes PoS security (https://haseebq.com/how-defi-cannibalizes-pos-security/)
Long Range Attack (https://dlt-repo.net/long-range-attack-in-proof-of-stake-pos-blockchains/)
Weak Subjectivity (https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity)
Nothing-at-stake problem (https://golden.com/wiki/Nothing-at-stake_problem)
托拉斯 (https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/%E6%89%98%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AF)
Proof of Capacity (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/proof-capacity-cryptocurrency.asp)
Economic Proof of Work (https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1117)
OPPO Watch 3 (https://www.oppo.com/cn/accessories/oppo-watch-3-pro/)
Special Guest: 王博.
29 Jan 2021
#21 - 和彩云比特钟锐聊聊挖矿那些事 这期我们请到了来自彩云比特的钟锐聊聊挖矿那些事。
挖矿到底是怎么一回事？ 各地挖矿情况有什么不一样？云算力被包装成各种理财产品，其背后有哪些需要注意的地方？
散户和机构挖矿之间有哪些博弈？对于一个想要入行挖矿行业的新手，需要做哪些准备，才能快速上手，避免踩坑？
本期包含大量挖矿相关的有趣内容，更多细节，敬请收听节目~
注：由于录制问题，声音在少许几处会有滋滋的电流声，我们做了一些处理，但仍无法完全消除，如果影响到了您的收听，还请见谅。
摘要
彩云比特创建于 2013 年，算是行业的见证者了。
挖矿相对来说风险可控。
云南水电资源丰富，而且稳定，外省很多矿主来这边安营扎寨。
云算力现在大部分是短期资金，给客户做一个理财计划，这在挖矿的世界里其实是不合逻辑的。
我们追求的是稳定的长期增长。我们社区的整个逻辑，是希望能过滤掉一些喜欢赚快钱的人，大家能有长期思维。
盘点下来，能让客户挣到钱的算力，好像也就只剩彩云的算力了。
我们希望矿工能挣到最多的钱。
面对这么多矿工，接触下来，还是中国人最有钱。
虽然有机构逐渐参与到挖矿这个行业里，但我们还是希望外部散户更多进来一起玩，因为资本进来会改变一些事情的本质。
我们不太喜欢挣一些自己不该挣的钱。
挖矿这个市场，总体来说，还是老人带新人玩。
一个聪明的矿工需要了解市场规律，掌握行业发展周期，在合适的时间进入和退出。
无论是挖矿还是投资，本质是要让自己生活更美好。
Shownotes
彩云比特 (https://www.cybtc.com/)
烤猫 USB (https://www.btcfans.com/article/2013-2466)
烤猫相关帖 (https://www.cybtc.com/search.php?mod=forum&searchid=4&orderby=lastpost&ascdesc=desc&searchsubmit=yes&kw=%E7%83%A4%E7%8C%AB)
Bitcoin Talk (https://bitcointalk.org/)
吴忌寒 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihan_Wu)
张楠赓 (https://www.baike.com/wiki/%E5%BC%A0%E6%A5%A0%E8%B5%93?view_id=zs6ynrx029c00)
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鲜花饼 (https://item.jd.com/71430353574.html)
经贸宾馆 火腿面包 (http://www.dianping.com/shop/H6A5HuKTmcVvdBB1)
黄石 (https://movie.douban.com/subject/27036727/)
Special Guest: 钟锐.
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