Form & Structure

About Form & Structure

Welcome to Form & Structure, a podcast exploring the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series delves into the most pressing issues shaping the future of digital finance. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that enables builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.

Publisher

Patrick Murck, Founder & CEO of Surus

Category

business · technology

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

5 Dec 2024

Latest episode

8 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

39 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   8 Sept 2026

   Reg Crypto and the CLARITY Act: What the SEC's Proposal Misses, and Who's to Blame If CLARITY Stalls

   Greg Xethalis, General Counsel at Multicoin Capital, and Karen Ubell, Partner and Co-Chair of the Digital Currency & Blockchain practice at Goodwin, join Patrick Murck for the Policy & Regulatory Roundtable. Recorded August 26, the conversation covers the SEC's proposed Regulation Crypto Assets, where the CLARITY Act sits ahead of its September 15 cloture vote, and why the fight holding it up has almost nothing to do with securities law. Here is a link to the SAFT whitepaper: https://www.cooley.com/-/media/cooley/pdf/reprints/saft-project-whitepaper.pdf

2. 

   3 Jun 2026

   CLARITY Cleared Committee. What Comes Next for Crypto Policy with Sheila Warren & Greg Xethalis

   On May 14th, the Digital Asset Market CLARITY Act cleared the Senate Banking Committee — but a markup isn't a law, and passage isn't the finish line. Sheila Warren (Former CEO, Crypto Council for Innovation) and Greg Xethalis (General Counsel, Multicoin Capital) join Patrick Murck for Form & Structure's monthly policy roundtable to break down the main pillars of the CLARITY Act, why GENIUS may have been the bill that mattered, and the regulatory work ahead. As Greg puts it: "We've probably got five years of rulemakings ahead of us if clarity passes. If clarity doesn't pass, there's still two to three years of important rulemaking." A candid conversation on developer protections, the calendar risk facing the bill, and whether crypto's policy class is about to lose its main-character status.

3. 

   18 May 2026

   Karen Ubell on SEC/CFTC Guidance and the CLARITY Act's Final Mile

   In another episode of our recurring Policy & Regulatory Roundtable, Karen Ubell, Partner at Goodwin, joins Patrick Murck to discuss the SEC and CFTC's joint guidance on crypto assets and break down the framework. Karen warns its 'express promises' approach 'encourages no disclosures,' an unusual position for an agency 'founded on the basis of full and fair disclosure.' They also cover how the framework cites the 2017 SAFT (which she and Patrick both contributed to) as a valid mechanism a decade after the SEC was rumored to hate it, whether CLARITY actually crosses the finish line. Note: This episode was recorded before the Senate Banking voted to advance the CLARITY Act.

Who has been a guest on Form & Structure

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• Peter Glyman
• Greg Xethalis
• Karen Ubell
• Sheila Warren
• Jo Ann Barefoot

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4 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 42 / 100

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