Join Francis Fukuyama for conversations with leading policymakers and thinkers as he explores how to revitalize liberal democracy in the United States, while addressing the authoritarian challenges to liberal democracy abroad. A project of American Purpose at Persuasion.
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Bob Wright on the Future of Artificial Intelligence
Bob Wright is a journalist, author, and podcast host. His latest book is The God Test.
In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Bob Wright discuss why artificial intelligence may be more transformational than any previous technology, how AI systems can develop unintended goals that escape the control of their creators, and whether we should take the “doomer” case for catastrophic AI risk seriously.
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14 Aug 2026
On Executive Authority
Francis Fukuyama explores how President Trump has tried to expand executive authority, the impact of his actions on how America will be governed in the future, and the choice facing the next U.S. president.
In an event exclusively for readers of American Purpose and Persuasion, Yascha Mounk will be interviewing Francis Fukuyama about his life and thought at 5pm on Sunday, September 6 at The Abbey Centre, London. Find out more and get tickets here (https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-with-francis-fukuyama-tickets-1988168963891). Paying subscribers of Persuasion and American Purpose can access a code for a free ticket here (https://www.persuasion.community/p/events-code).
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27 Jul 2026
Josh Harder on Why America Needs to Build
In this conversation, recorded at the New Liberal Action Summit organized by the Center for New Liberalism in Washington, D.C., Francis Fukuyama interviews Representative Josh Harder about the obstacles to building things in the United States, the importance of building housing to reduce prices for all Americans, and how to implement abundance policies across the country.
Josh Harder represents California’s 9th district and was one of the founders of the Build America Caucus, a bipartisan alliance to get America building things again.
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