Join Francis Fukuyama for conversations with leading policymakers and thinkers as he explores how to revitalize liberal democracy in the United States, while addressing the authoritarian challenges to liberal democracy abroad. A project of American Purpose at Persuasion. <br/><br/><a href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/frankly-fukuyama?utm_medium=podcast">www.persuasion.community</a>

Frankly Fukuyama
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Join Francis Fukuyama for conversations with leading policymakers and thinkers as he explores how to revitalize liberal democracy in the United States, while addressing the authoritarian challenges to liberal democracy abroad. A project of American Purpose at Persuasion. <br/><br/><a href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/frankly-fukuyama?utm_medium=podcast">www.persuasion.community</a>
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May 8, 2026
Dara Massicot on Where the Russia-Ukraine War Stands Today
<p>Dara Massicot is a military analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who previously worked for the Department of Defense and the Rand Corporation. Learn more about Ukraine’s defense tech sector in <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/ukraine-is-now-an-arms-superpower">this recent piece</a> in American Purpose.</p><p>You can watch the full conversation below:</p><p>All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/t/frankly-fukuyama-podcast">here</a>.</p><p>Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.</p><p><strong>Connect with us!</strong></p><p>X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a></p><p>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

March 1, 2026
Francis Fukuyama on Trump’s War With Iran
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_7">www.persuasion.community</a><br/><br/><p>We’re trying something new! Frank featured on today’s episode of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/podcast">The Good Fight,</a> so we’re sharing it with subscribers to the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/frankly-fukuyama">Frankly Fukuyama</a> podcast! If you’d like to sign up to The Good Fight or Frankly Fukuyama, please click <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/account">here</a> and toggle the correct buttons! We hope you enjoy the conversation.</p><p>Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is <a target="_blank" href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374606718/liberalismanditsdiscontents">Liberalism and Its Discontents</a>. He is also the author of the “<a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/francis-fukuyama">Frankly Fukuyama</a>” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion.</p><p>In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss whether the unprecedented strikes on Iran will lead to the downfall of the mullahs, whether America can avoid getting drawn into a Middle Eastern quagmire, and whether the midterms will turn Donald Trump into a lame duck.</p><p>If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following <a target="_blank" href="https://yaschamounk.substack.com/subscribe?next=https%3A%2F%2Fyaschamounk.substack.com%2Faccount%2Fadd-podcast%3Futm_source%3Dall-podcasts&skipPodcastSetupPage=true">this link on your phone</a>.</p><p>Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community</p><p>Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.</p><p><strong>Connect with us!</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3nhfO2XVPsv2wZafZ5n7Hk">Spotify</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-fight/id1198765424">Apple</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3RoZV9nb29kX2ZpZ2h0LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz">Google</a></p><p>X: <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Yascha_Mounk</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a></p><p>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUtopianMagazine">Yascha Mounk</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/persuasion-community/">Persuasion Community</a></p>

February 4, 2026
Stephen E. Hanson and Jeffrey S. Kopstein on America as a Family Business
<p>Francis Fukuyama is joined by Steve Hanson and Jeff Kopstein to discuss why Donald Trump’s regime can be described as “<a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/the-patrimonial-president">patrimonial</a>,” how this approach leads to high corruption, and why reversing it will pose special challenges.Stephen E. Hanson and Jeffrey . Kopstein are professors of political science at William and Mary College and the University of California, Irvine, respectively.</p><p>Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.</p><p><strong>Connect with us!</strong></p><p>X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a></p><p>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>
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