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Friends Between Worlds

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<p>Welcome to Friends Between Worlds, a place for people who feel the tension of our modern world. We help you feel less alone, and gain cutting-edge perspectives from some fascinating thinkers of our time.</p>

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Episode thumbnail for We’ve taken our modern worldview as far as it will go: Discovering ‘Mind Space’ with Dr. Ron Purser

March 30, 2026

We’ve taken our modern worldview as far as it will go: Discovering ‘Mind Space’ with Dr. Ron Purser

<p>To join the conversation please visit:</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode4" target="_blank">https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode4</a></p><p></p><p>This episode features Dr. Ron Purser, professor of management at San Francisco State University and author of multiple books including 'McMindfulness: How Mindfulness Became the New Capitalist Spirituality', and the newly released 'Mind Space: Discovering Meditation Without the Meditator'. We discuss his background and the influence of the Time Space Knowledge (TSK) vision on his life. Topics include the critique of McMindfulness, limits of the modern worldview, and Descartes' perspective on the self. The conversation explores cultural angst and the impact of mindfulness without ethics. It explores the dimensions of space and time, and how ethics arise from wonder.</p><p></p><p>Key Topics</p><ul><li>Critique of McMindfulness and corporate mindfulness</li><li>Introduction to Mind Space and its principles</li><li>The role of space, time, and ethics in perception</li><li>The impact of the modern worldview and neoliberalism</li><li>Practices for experiencing higher space and openness</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>03:12 An impenetrable book</p><p>06:01 Stealth Zen at the fringes of organizational studies</p><p>10:18 What is McMindfulness?</p><p>14:09 We've taken our modern worldview as far as it will go</p><p>16:37 We're suffering from a very cramped worldview</p><p>18:26 Lost in productivity</p><p>22:04 It's so close that it seems too good to be true</p><p>23:04 Breakout mentality and focal setting</p><p>29:41 Staying stuck in the heroic approach</p><p>32:24 What Descartes forgot</p><p>33:47 Agency</p><p>34:30 Identity is a high-maintenance activity</p><p>35:48 Overcompensation and reality projects</p><p>39:16 Polluted mind streams</p><p>41:00 Exploring Mind Space</p><p>47:08 The interplay of wonder and ethics</p><p>51:54 Encounter as a meeting of value</p><p>56:57 Space and time have your back</p><p>58:39 Closing questions</p><p>01:09:50 Outro</p><p></p><p>Learn more about Dr. Purser here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://ronpurser.com/" target="_blank">https://ronpurser.com/</a></p><p></p><p>Keywords: Mindfulness, McMindfulness, Mind Space, space and time, ethics, modern worldview, spirituality, management, Buddhism, societal change</p><p></p><p>Theme music is “Building Without Materials” by Aaron Vaurio Jackson: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aaronvauriojackson.com/home" target="_blank">https://aaronvauriojackson.com/home</a></p><p></p><p>This conversation was recorded on March 5, 2026</p><p></p><p>*These show notes were generated with help from an AI</p>

Episode thumbnail for For the Great Turning, we need just about everyone: Returning self to nature with Dr. Jeanine Canty

February 10, 2026

For the Great Turning, we need just about everyone: Returning self to nature with Dr. Jeanine Canty

<p>To join the conversation please visit:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode3" target="_blank">https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode3</a></p><p></p><p>In this conversation with Dr. Jeanine Canty, professor of transformative studies at California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) and author of 'Returning the Self to Nature', we delve into the influence of open-heartedness, the concept of the Great Turning, the ailing of Western civilization, the link between narcissism and the ecological crisis, and the transition to becoming menders of Earth-based wisdom. We explore the impact of embodying open-heartedness and the need to foster it in a divided world. Additionally, we discuss the undoing of collective narcissism and its role in healing the planet, as well as the original trauma and primal matrix in the context of ecological consciousness. The conversation covers the concept of the false self and its connection to attachment theory, exploring the impact of damaged relationships with primary caregivers and Mother Earth. It then transitions to a discussion on narcissism, self-awareness, and the importance of recognizing false realities. Finally, the conversation explores the need to establish a participatory relationship with the natural world.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Who do we know around us?: Disrupting loneliness loops with Dr. Olivia Sagan

January 5, 2026

Who do we know around us?: Disrupting loneliness loops with Dr. Olivia Sagan

<p>To join the conversation please visit: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode2" target="_blank">https://www.axonleadership.com/friendsbetweenworlds/episode2</a></p><p></p><p>In this conversation with Dr. Olivia Sagan, Director for the Centre for Applied Social Sciences at Queen Margaret University, we explore the relationship between loneliness and solitude, the societal and structural factors contributing to loneliness, and the importance of self-compassion and community. We discuss the impact of neoliberal materialism on experiences of loneliness, and the unique challenges faced by younger generations. The conversation emphasizes the need for a shift in discourse around loneliness, advocating for a perspective that recognizes the potential for personal growth and connection through mindfulness practices, creative outlets, and community engagement.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Loneliness is often confused with solitude, which can be a positive experience.</li><li>Shame and self-loathing are common feelings associated with loneliness.</li><li>The discourse around loneliness can contribute to a 'loneliness loop' where negative feelings compound.</li><li>Epistemic injustice occurs when individuals feel unheard and unseen, exacerbating loneliness.</li><li>The narrative around loneliness often overlooks structural factors contributing to the issue.</li><li>Creative outlets can help individuals cope with loneliness and foster self-discovery.</li><li>Younger generations face unique challenges, including economic insecurity and the impact of social media.</li></ul><p></p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>03:20 To be shaped by mountains</p><p>06:52 Solitude vs loneliness</p><p>09:29 Facets of loneliness</p><p>14:46 Loneliness loops and epistemic injustice</p><p>20:52 Loneliness in neoliberal society</p><p>27:39 Generational challenges</p><p>33:17 Old stuff isn't working anymore</p><p>38:30 The we-ness in the wellness</p><p>40:17 Loneliness hysteria</p><p>44:33 Loneliness and WEIRD psychology</p><p>46:35 Changing the loneliness discourse</p><p>47:01 Benefits of loneliness</p><p>51:36 Our fragmented attention</p><p>53:51 Meditation, self-compassion, and environmental conservation</p><p></p><p>Learn more about Professor Sagan at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.qmu.ac.uk/schools-and-divisions/psychology-sociology-and-education/psychology-sociology-and-education-staff/professor-olivia-sagan" target="_blank">https://www.qmu.ac.uk/schools-and-divisions/psychology-sociology-and-education/psychology-sociology-and-education-staff/professor-olivia-sagan</a></p><p></p><p>Keywords: loneliness, solitude, mental health, public health, emotional well-being, social connection, epistemic injustice, community, self-compassion</p><p></p><p>Theme music is “Building Without Materials” by Aaron Vaurio Jackson: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aaronvauriojackson.com/home" target="_blank">https://aaronvauriojackson.com/home</a></p><p></p><p>This conversation was recorded on November 5, 2025</p><p></p><p>*These show notes were generated with help from an AI</p>

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What is Friends Between Worlds?
<p>Welcome to Friends Between Worlds, a place for people who feel the tension of our modern world. We help you feel less alone, and gain cutting-edge perspectives from some fascinating thinkers of our time.</p>
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