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Inspiring conversations about early learning. The Froebel Trust podcast is for you if you've ever wondered what a Froebelian approach to early education is all about - and want to know what it looks like in action. Get in touch and find out more at www.froebel.org.uk

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Episode thumbnail for Episode 20: Maths in the early years

January 12, 2026

Episode 20: Maths in the early years

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji';" xml:lang="EN-GB">Love it or hate it, Maths is a key part of everyday life that enables us to make sense of the world around us.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji';" xml:lang="EN-GB">In episode 20 of the Froebel Trust podcast, presenter Colin Kelly is joined by expert guests to discuss how educators can support young children to develop early mathematical skills. 💡</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji';" xml:lang="EN-GB">Joined by historian of science and mathematics, Michael Friedman and Froebel Trust Travelling Tutors, Jane Whinnett MBE and Pete Moorhouse, they share how you can teach the subject even if you're not confident with maths. 🌿</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji';" xml:lang="EN-GB">Visit the Froebel Trust website to download the podcast transcript, further free resources, information of Froebel Trust Short Courses and learn more about the speakers ➡️ <a href= "https://bit.ly/4qIflVE">https://bit.ly/4qIflVE</a></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>If you'd like to contact us with questions about this podcast or suggestions for future episodes, you can email </strong><a title= "mailto:%E2%80%98office@froebeltrust.org.uk%E2%80%99" href= "mailto:%E2%80%98office@froebeltrust.org.uk%E2%80%99" data-outlook-id= "bc11e3df-1bb6-4b97-a455-0cbfd14fe5ab"><strong>office@froebeltrust.org.uk</strong></a></p> <p class="x_m-8103512205709382931xp1"><strong><span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US">The Froebel Trust's new strategy will be created in 2026 and educators, academics and stakeholders in the early childhood sector are being asked to help shape it. The Trust is asking people to complete a short survey so it can target its resources to help meet the needs and interests of the early childhood sector and Froebelian community. <span class= "x_m-8103512205709382931apple-converted-space"> </span></span></strong><strong><span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US">To participate, please complete<span class= "x_m-8103512205709382931apple-converted-space"> </span>the anonymous<span class= "x_m-8103512205709382931xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"><a title= "https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TELL-US-2026" href= "https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TELL-US-2026" target="_blank" rel= "noopener" data-outlook-id= "66d3cc28-2ce6-4d5c-8524-1a44f3a27664">short survey</a></span><span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US">by 19 February 2026.</span></strong></p>

Episode thumbnail for Episode 19: Froebelian Education: Past, Present and Future

November 5, 2025

Episode 19: Froebelian Education: Past, Present and Future

<p>Following the <a href= "https://international-froebel-society.org/">International Froebel Society</a> Conference in the summer, in this episode of The Froebel Trust Podcast we catch up with six Froebelians across the globe on their reflections on Froebelian education. </p> <p>Together with presenter Colin Kelly, they explore Froebel's influence throughout history, why Froebelian pedagogy is so important for modern educators and young children today, and how the approach can be used to navigate both modern day and future challenges.</p> <p><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">"You're</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> part of a professional </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">c</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">ommunity that has succeeded in many places over </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">very long</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"> periods of time and often under circumstances that were </span><span class= "NormalTextRun AdvancedProofingIssueV2Themed SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">pretty tricky</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> for all different sorts of reasons. </span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">S</span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">o</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> I think </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">that's</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> important just to know that </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">you're</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> not alone</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">."</span></p> <p><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0">Dr. Kristen</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW101072227 BCX0">Nawrotzki</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"> </span></span></strong></p> <p><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">"Everything about</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">Froebel</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> for myself</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">helps me to meet the needs of my children and helps me to get it right for them and think about </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">what's</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> important for them and </span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">put</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> them </span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">at</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> the heart of everything </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">we're</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">doing."</span></span></span></span></p> <p><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">Donna Kilpatrick</span></span></span></span></strong></p> <p><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> "[Froebelian education] is a way of thinking about education that puts the child at the</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">centr</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">e</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> that really has a very sound value base that I think offers teachers and educators </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">o</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">pportunities to make sense of it as </span><span class= "NormalTextRun AdvancedProofingIssueV2Themed SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">learners in their own right</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">."</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">Dr Karen Vincent</span></span></span></span></span></strong></p> <p><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">"<span class="TextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">I think </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">it's</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> a great contribution to inclusive education too, because in his engagement with educationally disadvantaged children and young people affected by poverty and disability, </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">Froebel</span></span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">is already regarded as a pioneer of inclusion and a school for all, I think."</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">Dr Andrea Schmid</span></span></span></span></span></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">"</span></span></span></span></span></span></strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW181254608 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW101072227 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW65626297 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW194248 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW15489667 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">O</span></span></span></span></span></span><span class= "TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">ne of my </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">favo</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">u</span></span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">rite phrases, </span><span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">'</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">life is messy.</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">'</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">[...]</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">it's</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> part of being alive and that makes us human.</span></span> <span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">But if AI starts making everything more predictable, you know. Too much listening, too much coping with children's emotions and over </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">empathi</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">s</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">ing</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> with their every little </span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">emotions</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> and </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">eliminating</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> conflicts or failure. Then, I mean </span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">can</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">you really call that education?"</span></span></p> <p><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">Grace Choi</span></span></strong></p> <p><span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">"<span class="NormalTextRun SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">Early years educators are part of a profession and part of one of the characteristics of a profession is having a common history that </span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">becomes, and</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script"> knowing that becomes part of our professional </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">sociali</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">s</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">ation</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW265103625 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Script">and builds community."</span></span></span></p> <p><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW185177520 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Script">Professor Larry Prochner</span></span></strong></p> <p>Join us as we take a journey through Froebelian education past, present and future and find out how a Froebelian approach has been and continues to be used to support educators of young children. </p> <p>Guests in this episode: </p> <ul> <li><strong>Professor Larry Prochner</strong></li> </ul> <p><span class="TextRun MacChromeBold SCXW218487047 BCX0" lang= "EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">Professor Larry </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW218487047 BCX0">Prochner</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0"> </span></span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">is a professor of early childhood education at the <a href= "https://www.ualberta.ca/en/index.html">University of Alberta.</a> He has been a member of research teams for two Froebel Trust-funded history projects—</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">Froebelian Endeavours</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0"> and </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">Reimagining Teaching.</span><span class="TextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0" lang= "EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0"> He is the editor, with Kristen </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW218487047 BCX0">Nawrotzki</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">, of the forthcoming book </span></span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0">Nature and Early Education: Global Perspectives on Outdoor Learning for Young Children,</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW218487047 BCX0"> to be published by Routledge. He serves on the executive committee of the <a href= "https://international-froebel-society.org/">International Froebel Society</a> and was co-president for several years.</span><span class="EOP SCXW218487047 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{}"> </span></p> <ul> <li><strong>Dr Kristen Nawrotzki</strong></li> </ul> <p><span class="TextRun MacChromeBold SCXW85350832 BCX0" lang= "EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0">Dr. Kristen </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW85350832 BCX0">Nawrotzki</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0"> </span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0" lang="EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0">is a historian of education at <a href="https://www.ph-heidelberg.de/en/home/">Heidelberg University of Education</a> in Germany. She has authored </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0">numerous</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW85350832 BCX0"> studies of the movements for Froebelian education in the US, UK and elsewhere and is a former co-president of the International Froebel Society.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW85350832 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p> <ul> <li><strong>Dr Karen Vincent</strong></li> </ul> <p>Dr Karen Vincent is an Honorary Senior Lecturer in Early Childhood Education at <a href= "https://www.canterbury.ac.uk/">Canterbury Christ Church University</a>. Her experiences as a teacher in early years settings are at the root of her pedagogical research interests. She is currently engaged in researching with nurseries in Kent to explore pedagogical interactions in the outdoors.</p> <p>This is part of a <a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/research-library/freedom-with-guidance-outdoors"> Froebel Trust funded project to explore the use of wearable technology to explore freedom with guidance</a>. She is also engaged in a collaborative project with <a href= "https://www.bcu.ac.uk/">Birmingham City University</a> and the <a href="https://www.uwe.ac.uk/">University of the West of England</a> exploring experiences of Early Childhood Studies graduates in the workplace. She co-wrote <a href= "https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/supporting-early-literacies-through-play/book267335"> Supporting Early Literacies through Play</a>, with Dr Kate Smith. Karen is Secretary and Vice Chair of the England branch of the <a href="https://ipda.org.uk/">International Professional Development Association</a> (IPDA), Senior Fellow of the <a href= "https://ahc.leeds.ac.uk/ethics/dir-record/research-projects/810/higher-education-academy"> Higher Education Academy</a> and a <a href= "https://www.tactyc.org.uk/">TACTYC</a> Trustee.</p> <ul> <li><strong>Donna Kilpatrick</strong></li> </ul> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW147375074 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW147375074 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0" lang="EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">Donna Kilpatrick is a </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">Mum of two girls aged 19 and 17. </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">She has</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> taught in Falkirk schools for over 25 </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">years and</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">is</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> proud to be the Head Teacher of <a href= "https://www.whitecross.falkirk.sch.uk/">Whitecross Primary School and Nursery</a></span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">.  </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">Donna</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">recently</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> started </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">her </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">Froebel journey and ha</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">s</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> been so inspired by the teaching </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">that she </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">received at the <a href="https://www.ed.ac.uk/">University of Edinburgh</a> where she</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">completed the <a href= "https://education-sport.ed.ac.uk/professional-learning/intensive-courses/froebel"> Froebel in Childhood Practice Course</a></span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">.  </span></span><span class="EOP SCXW147375074 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW147375074 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW147375074 BCX0" lang="EN-GB" xml:lang= "EN-GB"><span class="TextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0" lang="EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">Donna has </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">had the opportunity to learn from the most amazing educators but also had the privilege to meet them at the IFS Conference in Erfurt. </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">She is</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> passionate to ensure that play and</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">the <a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/about-us/froebelian-principles">Froebelian</a></span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"><a href="https://www.froebel.org.uk/about-us/froebelian-principles"> Principles</a> continue to be developed in </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">he</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">r practice </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0">at her</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW147375074 BCX0"> nursery and school.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW147375074 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p> </div> <ul> <li><strong>Grace Choi</strong></li> </ul> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW150768564 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW150768564 BCX0"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0">Grace Choi </span><span class="TextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0" lang= "EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0">is the President of the <a href= "https://international-froebel-society.org/">International Froebel Society</a> and the Principal of <a href= "http://rainbowkidsintl.edu.np/">Rainbow Kids International Kindergarten</a> in Beijing, China. For over a decade, Grace has been committed to advancing Froebelian principles in early childhood education, focusing especially on Froebel Gift Blocks teacher training since 2012. As the founder of Rainbow Teacher Training School, Grace has worked closely with educators and organizations like the Korean Froebel Society and Taiwan Froebel and Montessori Society to bring Froebel's child-</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW150768564 BCX0">centered</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0"> approach to educators in China and beyond.</span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW150768564 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW150768564 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW150768564 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0" lang="EN-GB" xml:lang="EN-GB" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0">In recent years, Grace has shifted her attention to the intersection of technology and Froebelian education. She believes that in the face of rapid technological advances—especially in areas like AI and digital learning—it is more important than ever to focus on </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0">maintaining</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0"> a holistic, child-</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW150768564 BCX0">centered</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0"> approach to education. Instead of simply adapting Froebelian education to fit into the modern tech-driven world, Grace is passionate about exploring how Froebel's principles can coexist with technological innovation, preserving the integrity of Froebelian pedagogy in a world increasingly shaped by machines and digital platforms.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW150768564 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW150768564 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW150768564 BCX0"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW150768564 BCX0">Grace's work is grounded in the belief that the future of education must prioritize the whole child -nurturing intellectual, emotional, and social development- not just focusing on solutions that serve narrow human advancement. She is dedicated to pioneering a future where Froebelian values continue to inspire holistic learning environments amid the challenges of the digital age.</span><span class= "EOP SCXW150768564 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div> <ul> <li><strong>Dr Andrea Schmid</strong></li> </ul> <p><span class="outlook-search-highlight" data-markjs="true">Dr Andrea</span> Christine Schmid is a professor of the <a href= "https://www.uni-erfurt.de/en/">University of Erfurt</a> in Thuringia/Germany at the Faculty of Educational Science and the Department of Special and Social Education. Her main areas of focus in research and teaching are as follows: special needs education and inclusion, Reform- and Froebel Pedagogy, health and professionalization research and counseling. She heads the Froebel Research Unit at the University of Erfurt and is Vice President of the <a href= "https://international-froebel-society.org/">International Froebel Society</a>.</p> <p><strong>Links and resources for educators related to Episode 19:</strong></p> <p><a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/training-and-resources/short-courses">Froebel Trust Short Courses</a> - A series of short courses for educators and carers in early years settings.</p> <p>A series of Froebel Trust pamphlets - available to download for free on the <a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/training-and-resources/pamphlets">Froebel Trust website.</a></p> <p>A transcript of Episode 19 is available to download at <a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/training-and-resources/podcast">froebel.org.uk/training-and-resources/podcast</a></p> <p><strong>Visit the <a title="Froebel Trust" href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Froebel Trust</a> website to access a range of free resources and find out more about a Froebelian approach to early childhood education.</strong></p> <p><a href= "https://www.froebel.org.uk"><strong>froebel.org.uk</strong></a></p>

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September 9, 2025

Episode 18: Connecting with Parents, Families and Communities

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">“Today the most urgent need in education is that the school should be united with the life of home and family.”</span> <span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Froebel in Lilley 1967, p.156.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Froebel advocated for understanding and building upon the child’s prior life experiences and knowledge. How can a Froebelian approach support modern day educators to connect with the families and communities of the children in their setting?</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">The latest episode of the Froebel Trust podcast focuses on connection and celebrates the launch of the Froebel’s Trust’s pamphlet, <a title= "A Froebelian approach to connecting with parents, families and communities: a starting point" href="https://bit.ly/4lZkZjn">A Froebelian approach to connecting with parents, families and communities: a starting point</a>. It explores the importance of relationships and the ways educators and leaders in early years settings can connect with parents, families and communities to understand more about each child’s individual experiences. Only then can we truly start from where the child is.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">“…It really is our job to be able to open up those conversations in meaningful ways and really get to know their child in meaningful ways, because only then can we support their child, can we develop those relationships and bonds with those children.”</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Holli Williams, Head of Schools at Linden School Nursery Schools in London</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">During this episode, the authors of the pamphlet, Froebel Trust Travelling Tutors Holli Williams and Rachna Joshi explain why it’s so important for educators to build connections with the parents, families and communities of children in their setting. They share examples of simple ways educators can begin to build relationships, how to approach challenges around connection and the difference strong connections can make to children.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">We then hear how connecting with parents, families and communities has been taken one step further at a setting in Sheffield. Fufy Demissie, a senior lecturer in early years at Sheffield Hallam University shares how the University’s nursery has developed a special connection with the families it supports.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> A transcript of this episode is available at: froebel.org.uk/training-and-resources/podcast </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <strong><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> Episode 18 Resources and Links</span></strong></p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-add-space: auto; text-indent: -.25in; line-height: normal; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; background: white;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><span style= "font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">·<span style="font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';">   <a title="Connecting with parents, families and communities: a starting point" href="https://bit.ly/4lZkZjn" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">  </a></span></span></span> <a title= "Connecting with parents, families and communities: a starting point" href="https://bit.ly/4lZkZjn" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <!--[endif]--></a><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><a title="Connecting with parents, families and communities: a starting point" href="https://bit.ly/4lZkZjn" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Download Connecting with Parents, Families and Communities: A starting point on the Froebel Trust website</a>. Free to download. </span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-add-space: auto; text-indent: -.25in; line-height: normal; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; background: white;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><span style= "font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">·<span style="font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';">     </span></span></span> <!--[endif]--><span style= "color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext;"><a href= "https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02643944.2025.2538886#d1e364">Developing a mapping tool to support connection and loving relationships in early years settings. Pastoral Care in Education, 1-18</a></span><span style="color: #333333;">.</span> <span style= "font-family: 'Open Sans',sans-serif; color: #333333; background: white;"> Pearse, S., & Boylan, M. (2025). This includes the relationship mapping tool. </span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-add-space: auto; text-indent: -.25in; line-height: normal; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; background: white;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><span style= "font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">·<span style="font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';">     </span></span></span> <!--[endif]--><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Guests appearing in this episode:</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <strong><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> Holli Willams</span></strong></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Holli Williams is a Froebel Trust Travelling Tutor. Holli is Head of Schools at Linden Tree Nursery Schools, a small chain of privately-owned settings in Southwest London. Linden Tree has undertaken all six Froebel Short Course Elements, which began their transformation to a Froebelian educational approach in all their settings.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;"><br /> </span> <span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">  </span><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><br /> </span> <span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Holli is also a Trustee of the Froebel Trust.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;"> </span></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;">  </span></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Rachna Joshi</span></strong><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;"> </span></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;" xml:lang="EN-GB">Rachna is a Froebel Trust Travelling Tutor and an early childhood teacher, action-researcher and consultant. She works with under-threes, Nursery and Reception children in classroom settings and holds an MA in Early Childhood Studies. Rachna also writes for organisations like Tapestry and Early Education. Her recent work includes embedding music into settings via grants to purchase outdoor music walls, open-ended music resources and workshops for children and their families.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;"> </span></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: black;">  </span></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"> Fufy Demissie</span></strong></p> <p class="paragraph" style= "margin: 0in; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"> Dr Fufy Demissie is a senior lecturer in the Sheffield Institute of Education.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">She began her career in higher education after 10 years of teaching in Foundation Stage settings.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">  </span><span style="font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">She currently coordinates the Continuing Professional Development network and the student placement programme for the Early Years Community and Research Centre (EYCRC) at the Meadows nursery, Sheffield.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">   </span><span style="font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"><br /> <br /> Fufy teaches on the BA and PGCE early years courses at Sheffield Hallam University and supervises doctoral candidates.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Her own research focuses on understanding the role of dialogic pedagogies in professional learning in the early years and beyond. Recent projects include an Erasmus project on Global Citizenship and Mathematics education and a classroom intervention to promote metacognition in early childhood settings.</span><span style= "font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;"> Fufy is also a trustee of the Froebel Trust.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <strong><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> Courses:</span></strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> Visit the </span><span style= "color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext;"><a href= "http://www.froebel.org.uk/"><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: teal; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Froebel Trust website</span></a></span><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> to access more free resources and find out more about the Froebel Short Courses.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <strong><span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> If you’d like to contact us with questions about this podcast or suggestions for future episodes, you can email </span></strong><span style= "color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext;"><a href= "mailto:%E2%80%98office@froebeltrust.org.uk%E2%80%99"><strong><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Open Sans'; color: teal; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">office@froebeltrust.org.uk</span></strong></a></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; line-height: normal; background: white;"> <span style= "font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Open Sans',sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">  </span></p>

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What is Froebel Trust Podcast?

Inspiring conversations about early learning.

The Froebel Trust podcast is for you if you've ever wondered what a Froebelian approach to early education is all about - and want to know what it looks like in action.

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