From Therapy to Social Change

About From Therapy to Social Change

We believe that insights and practices from the realm of therapy can contribute to a better world for all. At least, that's our hope... In an era marked by climate crisis, conflicts, and escalating inequality, any positive contribution is surely welcome. But what, more specifically, can the fields of therapy, psychology, psychiatry, and mental health offer to create a more equitable, sustainable, and flourishing world? This is the question we aim to explore in this podcast series. Hosted by Mick Cooper, Professor of Counselling Psychology and author of 'Psychology at the Heart of Social Change' (Policy Press, 2023), as well as a father of four, and John Wilson, a Psychotherapist, Educator, and Co-Director of Onlinevents, we will engage in conversations with a diverse array of therapists, writers, and other perceptive and influential individuals. We aim to delve into the depths of the human psyche while connecting it to current social and political issues—all with energy, enthusiasm, and a touch of humour, we hope! Sponsored by Onlinevents: https://www.onlinevents.co.uk/

Publisher

Mick Cooper & John Wilson

Category

health & fitness

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

27 Oct 2023

Latest episode

21 Mar 2025

Latest episodes

18 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   21 Mar 2025

   The Age of Humachines: Artificial Intelligence, Social Justice, and the Annihilation of Being Human. Michael D. B. Harvey in Conversation with Mick Cooper

   What happens when the line between human and machine begins to blur? Michael Harvey, author of "The Age of Humachines," takes us on a fascinating journey through the rapidly transforming technological landscape where machines are increasingly humanized and humans face mechanization. Harvey introduces us to the five categories of humachines reshaping our world: cognitive systems mimicking human reasoning, emotional technologies reading our feelings, relational machines transforming our commun...

2. 

   11 Feb 2025

   Alex Sobel MP in Conversation: Being Real in the Political World

   What is the reality of political life and how does it affect our MPs? Can they be the real human beings that they are? In this podcast, TaSC members Robbie Curtis and Mick Cooper talk to Labour MP Alex Sobel, as he discusses his journey from environmental and anti-fascist activism to representing an ‘unwinnable’ Labour constituency. With a much-appreciated openness, Alex sheds light on the personal and professional challenges of political life, providing a candid look at some of the mental he...

3. 

   10 Feb 2025

   David Bedrick on Unshaming and Empowerment: From Personal Healing to Systemic Change

   Imagine growing up with a constant sense of shame, only to realize later how powerful unshaming witnesses can be in healing that wound. This episode features the insightful David Bedrick, a teacher, counselor, and author, who sheds light on the profound impact of shame on our personal development. Through intimate stories, he reveals how his challenging upbringing, marked by his father's violence and his mother's denial, shaped his understanding of the dual role witnesses play in either perpe...

4. 

   20 Dec 2024

   Maryam Riaz in Conversation: Liberation Psychology, Islam, Psychotherapy and Paths to Social Justice

   Maryam Riaz, a Muslim BACP-accredited psychotherapist and senior lecturer, shares her insights on liberation psychology, Islam, and social justice, empowering therapists to address systemic inequalities and promote social change.

5. 

   31 Oct 2024

   Embracing Queer and Autistic Identities: Danny van Deurzen-Smith in conversation with Robbie Curtis

   What if your identity is a tapestry of diverse threads, each contributing to a complex, vibrant whole? This episode invites you to uncover the intricate intersections of queerness and autism with our insightful guest, Danny, an autistic and queer existential coach. Danny's journey of self-discovery as a queer person with a late autism diagnosis sheds light on the unique experiences of feeling like an outsider while embracing the strengths and challenges of neurodivergence. Through personal st...

6. 

   24 Oct 2024

   Exploring boarding school trauma and its impact on leadership and society

   CW: Suicide, trauma, abandonment, sexual abuse, alcoholism, rape, slavery, self-harm, homophobia.What happens when privilege, trauma, and leadership intersect within the walls of a boarding school? We invite you to join our compelling conversation with Tom Greaves, Piers Cross, and Jonny Lovett, as they unravel their personal journeys through the labyrinthine world of boarding education. This episode challenges the notion of resilience, questioning whether the experiences of isolation, bullyi...

7. 

   17 Sept 2024

   Simon Cross in Conversation with Robbie Curtis: From Baptist Evangelicalism to Progressive Faith

   What happens when a conservative evangelical embarks on a transformative journey toward progressive Christianity? Join us in an interesting conversation with Simon J. Cross as he unpacks his remarkable shift in faith and ideology. Simon reflects on his evangelical upbringing and the limitations he encountered within traditional evangelical frameworks. He explores how he balances his deep-rooted Christian identity with progressive values, offering profound insights into the importance of chang...

8. 

   8 Aug 2024

   Kirk Schneider in Conversation with Robbie Curtis: Addressing Primal Fears to Bridge Societal Divides ahead of the 2024 US Election

   Can understanding primal fears reshape our polarised society? Join us for an interesting conversation with Kirk Schneider, an esteemed psychologist in existential-humanistic existential-integrative psychotherapy. Kirk shares his groundbreaking concept of the "polarized mind," a state driven by primal fear and anxiety, and reflects on how his upbringing, political interests and the US' response to the Iraq War shaped his thoughts on societal issues. Drawing insights from Otto Rank and Ernest B...

9. 

   30 May 2024

   Integrating Social Activism into Therapeutic Practice - Dwight Turner in Conversation with John Wilson and Mick Cooper

   What if your personal and political identities could revolutionize your approach to therapy? Join us for an enlightening conversation with Dwight Turner, a renowned psychotherapist and social activist, who intricately weaves his journey from a British Caribbean upbringing, school, and military experiences to his transformative time in Berlin. Dwight shares how his exposure to therapy and political literature ignited a passion for integrating activism with his clinical work, challenging the traditional boundaries of psychotherapy. In this episode, we discuss the need for diversity and decolonization within the therapy field. We explore Dwight's role at the University of Brighton, emphasizing the integration of feminist and political perspectives into the training of humanistic psychotherapists. We also look at the importance of therapists' ethical self-awareness to prevent bias projection, advocating for training programs that reflect historical and political contexts. This discussion underscores the collective responsibility of the psychotherapeutic profession to evolve, incorporating voices and narratives from minority communities to foster inclusive and impactful practice. In this episode, Dwight provides invaluable insights into maintaining professional boundaries while challenging oppressive systems, emphasizing the potential for political change within clients through the therapeutic relationship. This episode is a call to action for therapists to stay engaged in political discourse and advocate for sustained social change beyond the election cycles. This Podcast is sponsored by Onlinevents (http://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)  (https://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)

10. 

    14 May 2024

    A Journey Through Psychology and Activism – Sally Zlotowitz in Conversation with Mick Cooper

    How can psychologist tackle social injustice in mental health services and drive systemic change? Sally Zlotowitz—co-founder of Psychologists for Social Change and Chief Executive of Art Against Knives—shares her journey from cognitive neuropsychology to the world of community psychology. Sally’s personal narrative—witnessing, for instance, the impact on her family pet shop of corporate expansion—shows the deep interconnections between psychology, activism, and social justice that have shaped her career, politics, and philosophy. This episode explores the layers of psychology's Eurocentric and individualistic roots, scrutinizing depoliticization within the psychological field. Sally discusses the importance of embracing social context, collective action, and participatory action research in community psychology. Her stories reveal how these approaches can challenge the traditional medical model, bringing forth methodologies that empower marginalized communities. Discussing into her co-founding role in Psychologists for Social Change, Sally shares how the community confronts austerity, advocates for systemic shifts, and offers solidarity and action against a backdrop of global crises. The dialogue goes on to examine the evolving roles of therapists in championing economic and racial justice. Highlighting the impact of mutual aid during hard times and the potential for collaboration between health services and community organizations, Sally discusses how local action can lead to changes. As we navigate the challenging landscape of social, economic, and global issues, this episode highlights the power of community engagement and the relentless pursuit of a more equitable world. This Podcast is sponsored by Onlinevents (http://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)  (https://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)

11. 

    14 May 2024

    Cassandra Geisel in Conversation with Will Higham: Unraveling the Complexities of Community Mental Health Systems

    Navigating the complicated maze of community mental health is no small feat. Will Higham joins us with insights reflecting his experience from years of working in community mental health across the UK. In conversation with Cassandra Geisel (MBACP), TaSC member with experience in working in community based suicide prevention, we gain an understanding of co-production in mental health services and the necessity for responsive, justice-oriented healthcare systems. As we traverse the shifting political terrain of the UK, Will's personal experiences become a lens through which we examine the broader implications of mental health policies and the urgent need for government-led health initiatives. The conversation looks at the current state of mental health in the UK and how it is at a point of humanitarian crisis. Something different needs to happen. Can we rely on the upcoming elections to spark that change? Forming alliances within the healthcare sector, especially in mental health, is akin to a delicate dance—one that requires balance, precision, and an acute understanding of community needs. Our discussion turns to the challenges of integrating smaller community groups with larger NHS structures, the significance of equitable funding, and the balance between clinical and social health models. We discuss the importance of clinicians venturing beyond the confines of therapy rooms to engage in deep partnership work, and the transformative power of such alliances in strengthening mental health support services for everyone involved. The conversation goes on to reflect on the critical role of local initiatives in propelling national health missions forward, particularly in the realm of mental health. The conversation examines the nuance between therapy sessions and a client's socio-environmental conditions. We explore how policy decisions impact communities grappling with health inequalities and the importance of recognising the gaps in care that are often filled by grassroots organisations. How do we, as therapists, learn from the knowledge and assets that exist in community spaces? What does collaboration across the mental health sector look like? The conversation ends in a call to action for cross-sector collaboration, recognizing the collective effort required to address the mental health crisis and inspire a more resilient, healthy society. Website: Together, we can transform community mental health (rethink.org) (https://www.rethink.org/aboutus/what-we-do/community-mental-health-unit/) This Podcast is sponsored by Onlinevents (http://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)  (https://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)

12. 

    14 May 2024

    David Weaver in Conversation: Intersecting Mental Health, Politics, and Societal Transformation

    What is it like to stand at the crossroads of identity, ancestry, and social change? David Weaver joins us to share his insights on the therapy profession's role in societal transformation. With his unique perspective as a social worker, political advisor, and leadership consultant, David unravels the threads of personal history and professional ambition, weaving a narrative that is both intimate and profound. In dialogue with John Wilson, David covers the complex terrain of systemic racism within the therapy field, dissecting how economic strains, like the ongoing cost of living crisis, exacerbate this problem. David encourages us to look at actionable solutions, stressing the urgency of embedding diversity and social justice into the fabric of psychological services. The conversation calls on therapists and communities to work together in crafting a future where mental health can flourish within a diverse society. At the heart of David’s experiences and perspective is the possibility of hope. He takes us through the power of voting, community dialogues, and the need for political advocacy to amplify the voice of mental health in policy-making circles. As we chart the intersection of mental well-being and political action, David's expertise shines a light on the importance of hope and engagement in the democratic process. He takes us through the power of voting, community dialogues, and the need for political advocacy to amplify the voice of mental health in policy-making circles. This isn't just an episode; it's a testament to the collective responsibility we share to foster change and a reflection on the legacy we aspire to leave for the generations that follow. Join us as we navigate these pivotal conversations with David Weaver and envision a world where resilience is not just imagined but actively built, one community at a time. This Podcast is sponsored by Onlinevents (http://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)  (https://www.onlinevents.co.uk/)

13. 

    1 Mar 2024

    Talking Across Difference: Islamic and Jewish Experiences in the (Counselling) World—Myira Khan and Mick Cooper in Dialogue, with Nicola Blunden

    What are the intersections of faith, culture and counselling? Myira Khan and Mick Cooper—with Nicola Blunden as Chair—explore our personal identities as a Muslim woman and Jewish man, and how this intersects with our professional training and identities. Through open dialogue, we discuss how global events shape our clinical practice and the unique perspectives we bring to the therapeutic space and training by our faith and cultural identities. We also talk about the prejudices and microaggressions we have faced in the counselling and professional world beyond. How does identity impact on professional life? Myira and Mick reveal the weight of representation and the complexities of navigating professional spaces with unique cultural and faith perspectives. We share personal accounts of the delicate balance between being voices for our communities and individual expression. We confront the invisible struggles and stereotypes faced in interfaith spaces, and emphasize the importance of privilege awareness and proactive steps to dismantle harmful biases. In this thought-provoking episode, we culminate with rich discussions about the personal significance of religious attire, such as Myira's choice to wear the hijab, and the judgments faced by individuals. Our exchange underlines the importance of compassion and open communication in training and counselling services. Join us to understand the emotional and mental challenges practitioners face to celebrate the value of community and support among peers across different faiths and cultures, and the profound impact on existence and belonging.

14. 

    29 Feb 2024

    Ben Mullings in Dialogue with Mick Cooper: A Mental Health Political Party for Australia—Successes, Challenges, and Lessons Learnt

    Dr Ben Mullings, counselling psychologist, has been a fierce advocate for mental health reform in Australia. In this podcast dialogue, Ben describes his journey of establishing the Alliance for Better Access campaign, the battles against Medicare cutbacks, and his pivotal role in establishing the Australian Mental Health Party—the first of its kind worldwide. This conversation is a deep dive into the complexities of shaping policy, the resilience required to challenge political indifference, and the undying spirit of community rallying for the rights to accessible mental health care. Navigating the political landscape requires more than just knowledge; it demands personal grit and a will to reveal the human stories behind policy statistics. Ben takes us through his personal experiences of adversity that ignited his drive to forge a path for others to follow. We trace the steps from his own struggles with homelessness to his empowerment through education and into the heart of political advocacy. It's a story that unravels the often-unseen intersection of mental health with social policies and the persistent myth that well-being is a mere consequence of employment and education. Through Ben's lens, we uncover the intricate layers of policy reform and the necessity for systems that authentically support each individual's journey. The trials and triumphs of creating a political party are numerous, yet Ben's account of launching the Australian Mental Health Party is a testament to the tireless pursuit of a fairer world. He candidly explores the hurdles—from protecting members' privacy to sculpting a platform that intertwines health, education, and economic policies with human welfare at their core. This episode is an invitation to reflect on the balance of personal sacrifice and the quest for inclusive policymaking. Ben's story is a poignant reminder of the power of solidarity and the essential role of community engagement in the relentless pursuit of humanistic change.

15. 

    17 Feb 2024

    Emmy van Deurzen in Dialogue with Mick Cooper: Existential Philosophy, Phenomenology, and the Journey to a Sustainable Future

    Emmy van Deurzen is a remarkable woman whose life story is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit. Not only has Emmy led a global renaissance of existential therapy, but she has been figural to the development of psychotherapy in the UK and across Europe. Today, she is at the forefront of the Existential Movement (https://www.existentialmovement.world/), which strives to bring existential ideas to social and political life. Emmy's narrative weaves the psychological aftermath of World War II with an unyielding pursuit of understanding and global improvement. Through her lens, we gain invaluable insight into existential philosophy's impact on social activism and how it shapes one's dedication to fostering global change. Venturing into the therapeutic realms, Emmy  describes phenomenology and its profound potential for psychotherapy and for global wellbeing. By embracing the complexity of each individual's perspective, she highlights how subjective realities converge within the therapeutic community, creating a healing narrative tapestry. In our final segments, we probe the fluid nature of identity and the urgency of ecological consciousness. Emmy shares her vision for a harmonious coexistence with nature's diversity, advocating for a paradigm shift towards sustainability and interconnectedness. This episode not only invites reflection on our place within the cosmos but also challenges us to innovate collaboratively across cultures, fostering a global community poised to thrive. Join us as we unravel these compelling conversations, setting the stage for a future that embraces creativity, understanding, and a collective responsibility for our planet.

16. 

    10 Jan 2024

    Eyal Rozmarin in Dialogue with Mick Cooper: Identity, Contemporary Psychoanalysis, and Social Change

    Eyal Rozmarin (https://www.eyalrozmarin.com/) is a relational psychoanalyst, widely published author, and an emigrant from Israel to the US.  In this dialogue with Mick Cooper, author of Psychology at the Heart of Social Change (https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/psychology-at-the-heart-of-social-change), Eyal describes the complex tapestry of identity formation and social dynamics, sharing his his own path of transformation. Eyal examines the intricate ways in which societal narratives, external perceptions, and the longing to belong sculpt our inner selves. The episode explores how our identities are interlaced with culture, politics, and the collective yearnings for community. Eyal invites us into the depths of psychoanalytic theory through, for instance, the ideas of Jean Laplanche, and illuminates the influence of language and culture in shaping who we are. The dialogue explores the evolving landscape of relational psychoanalysis, enriched by feminist and queer perspectives, questioning conventional beliefs about gender and sexuality. Eyal examines the role of belonging and its often paradoxical relationship with violence. In a world rife with conflict, this dialogue underscores the possibility of using psychoanalytic thinking to forge connections across divides.

17. 

    10 Nov 2023

    Claudia Turbet-Delof: From Poverty and Racism to Counsellor & Councillor

    Walk the journey of an inspiring human rights advocate who hails from Latin America. Claudia is a rare combination of both counsellor and councillor: a fierce believer in the power of socialism and person-centred therapy. From her childhood marked by poverty, racism, and intergenerational trauma to her work as a counsellor, Claudia’s experiences are insightful and compelling, and her belief in mental health as a fundamental human right. Mick Cooper and John Wilson's conversation with Claudia navigates through her life in the UK, her work with Hackney Council, and her role in the Words Matter campaign. Claudia’s work centres around bringing issues of social injustice, poverty, and race into her practice in the most compassionate way. We delve deep into the intersection of politics and therapy and how the role of therapists can extend into the political sphere. As we explore the effects of social inequalities on mental health, we also underscore the importance of holding the government accountable for the mental health of its citizens. Towards the end of our discussion, Claudia shares her unique vision of making supervision available for all professions. This episode is a profound exploration of the powerful connection between social injustice and mental health. Claudia's journey from a migrant to a counsellor to a councillor, her understanding of the intersectionality in therapy and politics, and her dream to make a difference in the world is a testament to courage and resilience.

18. 

    27 Oct 2023

    John Wilson in Conversation with Mick Cooper: From Cult to Containment

    Imagine growing up in a community where the group is considered more important than the individual. This was the reality for our guest, John Wilson, a therapist whose unique upbringing in a cult drastically shaped his perspective on life and then therapy. His compelling journey from a highly controlled group to the therapeutic world offers fascinating insights into the impact of cult mentality on individual self-worth and community dynamics. We explore the importance of creating safe spaces for human interaction, an idea that John holds dear. He shares how his personal history helps him understand group dynamics and build environments where individuals can express themselves freely and safely. His protective masculine energy, a response to his upbringing, now aids others in connecting with their inner child and feeling heard and respected. It's an intriguing exploration of how personal experiences can guide us towards fostering trust, respect, and a robust sense of community. As we wrap up our conversation, John outlines his vision for transforming violence and building an empathetic world. He illuminates how he aids individuals in understanding violent and destructive desires and guides them towards non-violent, constructive behaviors. John embodies an optimistic belief in an empathetic world, believing that technology can bring us closer together. His experiences and work serve as an inspiring testament to the power of personal journeys in shaping our perspectives and approaches to building a better world. Prepare for a riveting conversation that showcases the power of therapy in effecting social change.

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