Molly and Ramanan chat with cli-fi authors and imagine our climate-changed future <br/><br/><a href="https://www.futureverse.earth?utm_medium=podcast">www.futureverse.earth</a>
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April 28, 2025
Ep. 13. Sam J. Miller: Resilience In Dystopia
<p>In this episode of Futureverse, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.mollywood.co/">Molly Wood</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://hoo.be/ramanan">Ramanan Raghavendran</a> sit down with acclaimed author <a target="_blank" href="https://samjmiller.com/">Sam J. Miller</a>. They explore themes of dystopia, activism, and the intersection of technology and nature while reflecting on the realities of marginalized communities, the impact of AI governance, and the hopeful resilience of people in the face of adversity.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.futureverse.earth?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.futureverse.earth</a>
February 26, 2025
Ep. 12. Naomi Oreskes: Climate Science, Fiction, and the Fight Against Denialism
<p>In this episode of Futureverse, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.mollywood.co/">Molly Wood</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://hoo.be/ramanan">Ramanan Raghavendran</a> sit down with acclaimed author and scientist, Naomi Oreskes. They delve into the world of climate communication, from historical turning points to the influence of money and ideology in climate denial. She also shares insights from her books and discusses the hurdles of addressing capitalism in the climate conversation and the power of fiction in tackling climate issues and the urgent need for effective science communication.</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.futureverse.earth/i/153100432/naomi-sure-well-i-started-my-career-as-a-geologist-i-worked-as-an-exploration-and-mining-geologist-in-australia-but-when-i-was-in-graduate-school-i-got-interested-in-history-and-philosophies-of-science-as-a-way-to-explore-bigger-questions-about-the-role-of-science-in-society-and-i-did-that-work-for-about-about-a-decade-and-i-published-a-couple-of-pretty-serious-academic-books-on-the-development-of-scientific-knowledge-mostly-about-plate-tectonic-theory-and-continental-drift-theor"><strong>02:29 </strong></a><a target="_blank" 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href="https://www.futureverse.earth/i/153100432/molly-right-and-i-wonder-sort-of-picking-up-on-this-idea-of-pivotal-moments-and-your-investigation-of-sort-of-who-was-coming-at-you-with-climate-denialism-i-often-wonder-if-one-of-the-failures-of-imagination-of-scientists-and-media-is-the-inability-to-understand-that-in-fact-sometimes-its-just-money-it-is-literally-about-the-money-and-that-is-an-animating-life-force-that-its-hard-for-a-scientist-or-a-journalist-to-really-believe">The Role of Money and Ideology in Climate Denial</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.futureverse.earth/i/153100432/ramanan-i-knew-coming-into-this-discussion-that-within-the-first-five-minutes-we-would-learn-new-things-that-we-want-to-take-an-entirely-different-directions-but-im-to-try-and-haul-us-back-to-our-main-thread-which-is-your-books-and-were-now-going-to-drill-into-the-collapse-of-western-civilization-so-molly-and-i-started-this-podcast-to-focus-on-climate-fiction-which-is-not-the-preponderance-of-your-work-but-this-one-is"><strong>08:57 </strong></a><a target="_blank" href="https://www.futureverse.earth/i/153100432/ramanan-i-knew-coming-into-this-discussion-that-within-the-first-five-minutes-we-would-learn-new-things-that-we-want-to-take-an-entirely-different-directions-but-im-to-try-and-haul-us-back-to-our-main-thread-which-is-your-books-and-were-now-going-to-drill-into-the-collapse-of-western-civilization-so-molly-and-i-started-this-podcast-to-focus-on-climate-fiction-which-is-not-the-preponderance-of-your-work-but-this-one-is">Exploring Climate Fiction and Imagination</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.futureverse.earth/i/153100432/naomi-and-so-that-was-great-and-then-of-course-there-was-more-work-to-revise-it-and-all-of-that-but-now-i-think-i-mean-id-like-to-write-more-fiction-but-fictions-hard-fictions-really-hard-its-really-hard-i-feel-like-non-fictions-a-lot-easier-but-whats-great-about-fiction-i-think-is-this-imaginative-capacity-right-that-it-allows-us-to-go-beyond-our-immediate-experience-and-imagine-things-that-havent-happened-but-could-and-particularly-science-fiction-but-really-al"><strong>12:01 </strong></a><a target="_blank" 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This episode is also available on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/futureverse-podcast/id1683364412">Apple Podcasts</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2CDIEfWk4iOXEobJi3TBae">Spotify</a>.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.futureverse.earth?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.futureverse.earth</a>
October 24, 2024
Ep. 11. Jeff VanderMeer: Absolution — Return of the Southern Reach
<p>In this episode of Futureverse, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.mollywood.co/">Molly Wood</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://hoo.be/ramanan">Ramanan Raghavendran</a> interview author <a target="_blank" href="https://www.jeffvandermeer.com/">Jeff VanderMeer</a> to discuss, among many things, his latest novel, <em>Absolution</em>, the unexpected fourth installment of the Southern Reach series. The conversation explores the tangled web of human-environment relationships and how novels can serve as testing grounds for exploring ecological and psychological ideas. VanderMeer also talks about why he challenges the very terminology of “climate fiction” — he’s quite convincing!</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>(00:07) Exploring the Concept of Climate Fiction</p><p>(01:10) The Mysteries of Area X</p><p>(03:02) Writing Absolution: A Journey</p><p>(09:14) Interrogating Solutions in Climate Fiction</p><p>(14:13) Hyperobjects and Their Impact</p><p>(20:06) The Role of Non-Human Perspectives</p><p>(24:38) Frustrations with Bureaucracy</p><p>(33:12) Future Works and Adaptations</p><p>Time stamps and the full transcript are below. This episode is also available on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/futureverse-podcast/id1683364412">Apple Podcasts</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2CDIEfWk4iOXEobJi3TBae">Spotify</a>.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.futureverse.earth?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.futureverse.earth</a>
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