Defining genres through genre defining albums and the bands that made them.
In Genrefining, Cody and Connor trace the history of music genres through the most influential and innovative albums that shape them. Equal parts history and commentary, this podcast is for anyone interested in learning more about music and listening to kick-ass songs as they do it.
Now airing Season 1: Pop-punk!
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Bonus Episode: When We Were Young 2024 Festival Recap
On October 20, 2024, Connor and Cody saw the greatest music festival of their lives: When We Were Young, Full Album Edition. This episode begins with a preview of the festival (who we most wanted to see, bold predictions for the day, etc.) and ends with a recap of the day. Listen along and relive all the nostalgia-bait with us!
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29 Oct 2025
Bonus Episode: Buzzcocks, Circle Jerks, and Descendents 2024 Concert Recap
A little over a year ago, Cody went to see two bands from our pop punk podcast, Buzzcocks and Descendents, along with Surfbort and Circle Jerks, at the Fillmore Silver Springs. Listen along as Connor interviews Cody about the show.
Our apologies about the slight sound issues during brief moments of the episode. We recorded together in person on a single microphone in a hotel room on the busy Fremont Street in Las Vegas.
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18 Nov 2024
1982-1994 Music Draft
While the period between 1982’s Milo Goes to College and 1994’s Dookie saw punk music spread and evolve around the globe, the subgenre of pop-punk itself did not have many standout albums. In this episode of Genrefining, Cody and Connor pick their favorite pop-punk songs (sometimes applied very loosely) released between Milo and Dookie from each major music scene to fill in the gap.
Song time stamps:
Los Angeles
CO — Offspring, Jennifer Lost The War — 00:05:33
CW — Social Distortion, Telling Them — 00:08:26
New York City
CW — The Queers, I Met Her At The Rat — 00:11:57
CO — Gorilla Biscuits, New Direction — 00:14:25
United Kingdom
CO — Siouxsie and the Banshees, Cities in Dust — 00:17:46
CW — The Undertones, Thrill Me — 00:21:34
Bay Area
CW — Jawbreaker, Want — 00:24:01
CO — Screeching Weasel, Hey Suburbia — 00:29:11
Midwest
CO — Smoking Popes, Need You Around — 00:33:23
CW — Hüsker Dü, Makes No Sense At All — 00:36:46
Washington DC
CW — Rites of Spring, Spring — 00:41:02
CO — Fugazi, Waiting Room — 00:44:27
Grab bag!
CO — Pavement, Trigger Cut/Wounded-Kite At :17 — 00:48:13
CW — The Dickies, Banana Splits — 00:52:11
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16 Nov 2024
Milo Goes to College
“Everything about how I sing and play guitar came from this band”
In this music and talk podcast episode, Connor and Cody explore how the Los Angeles hardcode punk scene birthed the biggest pop-punk album of the decade, 1982’s Milo Goes to College. From its catchy choruses, melodic basslines, and angsty lyrics delivered with a snarl, Milo laid the foundation for the future of the genre (and we don’t mean fish-core).
Fill up your gas tank, put scotch tape on your motor, and get this album stuck in your head.
Song time stamps:
Myage: 1:15:35
Tonyage: 1:43:49
Suburban Home: 2:04:30
Hope: 2:28:23
Bikeage: 2:37:46
Jean is Dead: 3:14:30
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16 Nov 2024
Bonus Episode: Blink-182 2023/2024 World Tour Recap
Cody and Connor take a break from listening to pop-punk albums alone at home to go see the iconic, ineffable, and irreverent Blink-182 on their 2023/2024 World Tour! We discuss everything from the opening acts Destroy Boys and Turnstile, the stickers on Tom DeLonge’s guitar, Blink’s setlist, and our favorite moments from the show.
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27 Oct 2024
Singles Going Steady
“The soundtrack of my teen years”
The development of pop-punk continues with the Buzzcock’s first US release, their 1979 compilation album, Singles Going Steady. In this music and talk podcast episode, Connor and Cody document how Peter Shelley’s witty, love-struck, and often obscene lyrics provided a template for the Milos, Billie Joes, and Mark & Toms of the soon-to-be California punk scene.
Plug in your headphones and prepare to fall in love with some you shouldn’t’ve.
Song time stamps:
Orgasm Addict: 1:02:09
What Do I Get: 1:16:28
Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've): 1:42:36
Everybody's Happy Nowadays: 1:58:58
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27 Oct 2024
Ramones
"Aha, this is the Beatles"
Join Cody and Connor as they discuss the first pop-punk album ever made, 1976's Ramones by Ramones. From chronicling the alternative music scene prior to Ramones to detailing how the speed and simplicity of tracks like Blitzkrieg Bop and Judy Is a Punk catalyzed an entire genre, this music and talk podcast is an informative and entertaining listen for music fans young and old.
Song time stamps:
Blitzkrieg Bop — 58:35
Beat on the Brat — 1:08:14
Judy is a Punk — 1:16:45
Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World — 1:25:59
I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend — 2:09:07
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