GetAgile #37 | Is Your Team Integrating Continuously, or Just Running a CI Server? | Terry Yin
In this episode, Tomasz Wykowski talks with Terry Yin, a seasoned software product developer specializing in helping large-scale software development organizations. They discuss what Continuous Integration really means and why most teams that claim to be doing CI are, in fact, only running a CI server.
Terry explains why integration tests can hide the lack of real integration, and how deterministic versioning, trunk-based development, and a shared codebase support true Continuous Integration in multi-team environments.
They also discuss the organizational factors that make continuous integration difficult, how team goals and structures shape technical practices, and why high-quality engineering requires more than tooling.
You will learn:
why CI is not the same as having a CI server,
how end-to-end tests support fast, reliable feedback,
what "unit tests" should actually test,
why deterministic versioning and trunk-based development matter,
how organizational design influences technical practices.
Recorded during the AgileByExample Conference in Warsaw.
Learn more about Terry at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terryyin/
Terry's LeSS in Action course: https://less.works/course-details/less-in-action-large-product-developers-a-k-a-the-glad-developers-amstelveen-4089
29 Oct 2025
Get Agile #36 | Mapping Strategy and Why AI Won't Replace Developers | Simon Wardley
In this episode, Tomasz Wykowski from ProCognita talks with Simon Wardley - creator of Wardley Mapping - about how mapping helps leaders make sense of rapid change, why AI won't replace developers, and what strategic mistakes organizations are already making.
Simon explains how mapping strategy reveals patterns of technological evolution, why efficiency often creates more complexity, and how AI will increase the demand for skilled engineers rather than eliminate it. They also explore the long-term consequences of not hiring juniors, the cultural impact of large language models, and the need for open and transparent AI development.
Recorded during the AgileByExample Conference in Warsaw.
Learn more about Simon at https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonwardley/ and about Wardley Mapping from https://medium.com/wardleymaps and https://www.swardleymaps.com/.
24 Sept 2025
Get Agile #35 | How Should Strategy Shape Organizational Design? | Rowan Bunning
In this episode, Tomasz Wykowski from ProCognita talks with Rowan Bunning, Scrum trainer and long-time Agile practitioner, about designing organizations for real adaptability instead of copy-pasting “big framework” solutions. Drawing on experiences from Australia, New Zealand, and the UK, Rowan explains how to align org design with strategy, choose clear optimization goals, and avoid the Spotify/Safe cargo-cult trap.
You will learn:
why copying popular scaling models often fails,
how to start from strategy and define the capabilities your org actually needs,
how to use the Opposite Test to validate if your strategy isn’t just a buzzword,
ways to reach executive alignment on optimization goals,
how to visualize work and constraints using value stream mapping and sense-making to support decisions,
why providing solutions without understanding the right capabilities isn’t a good idea, and what to do instead,
how tools like Org Topologies and the Star Model help make options and trade-offs explicit.
This episode was recorded during the LeSS Conference in Singapore.
Resources mentioned in the conversation:
Org Topologies (by Alexey Krivitsky and Roland Flemm): https://orgtopologies.com/
Creating Agile Organizations (by Cesario Ramos and Ilia Pavlichenko): https://creatingagileorganizations.com/
Large-Scale Scrum (by Craig Larman and Bas Vodde): https://less.works/
You can learn more about Rowan at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowanbunning/ and his website https://www.adaptws.com.au/.
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