Get Messy is the mindset podcast for creatives who want sustainable, successful careers — without losing their sanity. Hosted by Maddie McGuire, a performer of 10+ years and currently in grad school to become a therapist, each episode goes deep on the mental side of the creative grind: core beliefs, mindset blocks, facing obstacles, making a living as a creative, chasing dreams, and what it takes to stay in the game.

Get Messy with Maddie
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Get Messy is the mindset podcast for creatives who want sustainable, successful careers — without losing their sanity. Hosted by Maddie McGuire, a performer of 10+ years and currently in grad school to become a therapist, each episode goes deep on the mental side of the creative grind: core beliefs, mindset blocks, facing obstacles, making a living as a creative, chasing dreams, and what it takes to stay in the game.
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July 8, 2026
70. Voice-Over Sessions: Red & Green Flags with Reps, Casting Director Workshops, and How to Go into Your Next V.O. Session with Confidence
<p>It’s always so refreshing to talk about the voice-over world with my peers, and I get to do just that with the lovely Olivia Sarafina Washington, who I am so excited to welcome back to Get Messy!</p><p><br></p><p>We cover some frequently asked questions, including: red and green flags with reps, and how to get them, the true value in casting director workshops, and some tricks and tips on how we show up to our voice-over sessions feeling confident and ready to work.</p><p><br></p><p>Olivia is always so much fun to talk with and truly provides so much incredible insight in this episode — stay tuned for part 2 where we get into all things money: how to manage it, how to work on your mindset so that you’re ready for it when the opportunity comes, and investments that we’ve made to give back to ourselves and our career.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is for anyone who has had burning questions about the voice-over world or is ready to level up in their voice-over career!</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Key Topics Discussed: </strong></p><ul><li>Getting Started & Representation</li><li>In-Person vs. Remote Auditioning</li><li>The Craft of Voice Acting</li><li>Business Side of V.O.</li><li>Classes & Coaching</li><li>Authenticity in Auditions</li></ul><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES:</p><ul><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-messy-with-maddie/id1765146695?i=1000731966429">Listen to Get Messy: Finding Your Voice Over Path | Olivia Sarafina Washington on Audition Strategies, Industry Challenges, and Building a VO Community</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tracy-lindley-talks-vo-strategies-marketing-and/id1765146695?i=1000728205786">Listen to Get Messy: Tracy Lindley Talks VO Strategies, Marketing, and Family Balance</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-messy-with-maddie/id1765146695?i=1000749239160">Listen to Get Messy: How to Actually Make It as a Multi-Hyphenate Artist (Without Waiting for Permission) with Taylor Meskimen</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-messy-with-maddie/id1765146695?i=1000770951571">Listen to Get Messy: I Almost Quit Acting… | Experiencing Burnout, Therapy, and Creative Revival</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>✨Connect with Olivia Sarafina Washington✨</p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/oliviasarafina/">@oliviasarafina</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7I1Cua0TqKZvixY4DnpixV?si=adb42244202948fd">Listen to Pink Pod Podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>✨Connect with Maddie✨</p><p><a href="https://maddiemcguirecoaching.com/">Explore Maddie's Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messywithmaddie/">@messywithmaddie</a></p>

July 1, 2026
69. Why Therapy Works: Hero's Journey, Nervous System Regulation & Donald Miller's “StoryBrand”
<p>I need you to stay with me for a second — because I'm about to tell you that a business book accidentally explained why therapy works.</p><p><br></p><p>A dear friend gifted me Building A StoryBrand by Donald Miller, and as I started doing the assignments, something clicked.</p><p><br></p><p>Here's the core idea: we all want to be the hero of our own story. And therapy? Therapy is one of the only spaces in your life that is entirely built around that. No shared spotlight. No performing. No managing anyone else's feelings. Just you, your obstacles, your goals, and a guide helping you take action toward the life you actually want.</p><p><br></p><p>We also get into survival vs. thriving, what your nervous system is actually trying to do for you, and why understanding that difference might be the thing that's been standing between you and the version of yourself you're trying to reach.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>TIMESTAMPS:</strong></p><p>[0:00] — A business book accidentally explained why therapy works<br>[0:37] — Welcome to Get Messy<br>[0:55] — The core idea: we all want to be the hero of our own story<br>[1:01] — Why businesses get their messaging wrong — and what it means for you<br>[1:26] — Therapy as the only one-sided relationship in your life<br>[1:57] — Addressing obstacles, goals, and devising a plan<br>[3:23] — The exit signs analogy — survival before thriving<br>[4:25] — Why your nervous system might be the obstacle standing in your way<br>[4:27] — Therapy as a way of finding your exit signs<br>[5:27] — Unpacking the why behind your goals<br>[6:05] — Real examples: audition rituals, letting go of control, creative careers<br>[6:31] — The hero's journey has defeats, pivots, and wrong turns — and that's okay<br>[6:41] — Therapy puts you in the hero role — the therapist is simply the guide<br>[7:37] — Why this book clicked for me — and why therapy works<br>[8:34] — I'm rooting for you today and always</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>TOPICS COVERED</strong></p><ul><li>Why Building A StoryBrand accidentally explained therapy</li><li>The hero vs. the guide — and why you need to know which one you are</li><li>Therapy as the only truly one-sided relationship in your life (and why that's a good thing)</li><li>Survival mode vs. thriving — and why your body prioritizes one over the other</li><li>The exit signs analogy and what it means for your nervous system</li><li>Why being a faulty hero is still being a hero</li><li>The hero's journey has defeats, pivots, and wrong turns — and that's the point</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>RESOURCES MENTIONED</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Building-StoryBrand-2-0-author/dp/1400251303">Building a StoryBrand by Donald Miller</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>✨ Connect with Maddie ✨</strong></p><p><a href="https://maddiemcguirecoaching.com/">Explore Maddie's Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messywithmaddie/">@messywithmaddie</a></p><p><br></p>

June 24, 2026
68. Nathalie Holmes on Breaking Up with Show Business, Training Teen Crisis Counselors, and Why Creativity Is the Best Therapy Tool
<p>This one felt like catching up with a best friend who also happens to have the most fascinating brain you've ever encountered. <strong>Nathalie Holmes</strong> is a creative-turned-mental-health-professional — actress, comedian, writer, former magician's assistant — who pivoted into crisis work during the pandemic after realizing her own experiences had given her something rare: the tools to hold space for others. She now trains teens to support their peers through a youth-led crisis hotline, brings expressive arts into therapy, and is in the final stretch of grad school pursuing her LMFT and LPCC.</p><p><br></p><p>We get into what it really means to break up with the creative career you always thought would define you, the grief of an identity shift, and how to let your dream evolve without losing yourself. We also talk about mask-making as therapy, what teens are actually carrying, the gap between being taught a craft and being taught a career, and why the most healing thing you can do might be a really long walk. Nathalie is warm, hilarious, and deeply wise — this one is a permission slip to honor every version of yourself.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>In This Episode:</strong></p><ul><li>Breaking up with show business and the identity grief that follows</li><li>The ocean metaphor: same human condition, different wave</li><li>Mask work, grief postcards, and expressive arts as a therapeutic entry point</li><li>Artfelt Collective — using pop culture and nostalgia to make mental health accessible</li><li>What acting school and grad school both forgot to teach (the business of your craft)</li><li>Being the jazz musician in a music theory class</li><li>When confidence and doubt show up at the same time — and what to do</li><li>All the Natalies in the car: a framework for your inner child and past selves</li><li>"You can't go through a life-changing event without your life changing"</li><li>The fear she's still sitting with: returning to being seen, neurospicy self-discovery, and showing up for her own ideas</li><li>Rapid fire: the messiest thing about Nathalie</li><p><br></p></ul><p>✨ Connect with Nathalie ✨</p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/prettyfunnynat/">@prettyfunnynat</a></p><p><br></p><p>✨Connect with Maddie✨</p><p><a href="https://maddiemcguirecoaching.com/">Explore Maddie's Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messywithmaddie/">@messywithmaddie</a><strong></strong></p>
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