A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
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A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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July 7, 2026
S4E14 - Lamar & Tom Talk Fine Art Photography
<p><strong>What is the difference between “fine art photography” and “taking pictures”?</strong> Nope, not your usual topic for our podcast. Plus, we’ve got pictures to share with you! </p><p>Lamar Roth, co-host of <strong>Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar & Tom</strong>, is a fine art photographer. He currently has a show going on in Newton, Kansas and often has opportunities to display his work both in Kansas and around the country, and continuously through his website at <a href="http://rothimages.com"><u>rothimages.com</u></a>. </p><p>In this podcast we are taking a break from the usual “stuff” going on around us to focus on the beauty of Lamar’s fine art photography and some of the stories behind the images. We think you’ll enjoy learning about Lamar’s journey from a Brownie camera to digital photography and seeing some of his incredible work. </p><p><strong>Don’t Skip This Paragraph - It’s Important! </strong>If you typically listen to our podcast, you’ll want to scoot over to YouTube to watch this podcast because we’ll be featuring some of Lamar’s photos. You can either get to it using this <a href="https://youtu.be/AaItmwg_9Pg"><u>YouTube link</u></a> or viewing it through our <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/klaushaus/p/lamar-and-tom-talk-fine-art-photography?r=5pobe&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Substack page</a></p><p>As usual, we have a fun and engaging conversation as Lamar lets Tom interview him about his work. Join us and let us know what you think!</p><p><strong>Learn More</strong></p><p>Check out <a href="http://rothimages.com"><u>Roth Images</u></a> where you can see a lot more of Lamar’s work and even purchase some that you really like. </p><p><strong>A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness</strong></p><p>Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through this <a href="https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5"><u>Google Forms Survey</u></a>. </p><p>There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:</p><ul><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?</strong></p></li></ul><p>What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.</p><p>Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.</p><p><strong>How We Check Ourselves</strong></p><p>Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.snopes.com/">Snopes</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="http://factcheck.org">FactCheck<u>.</u>org</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.politifact.com/">Politifact</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/">RealClearPolitics</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/">Reuters FactCheck</a> </p></li></ul><p>Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/">Media Bias/Fact Check</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news">All Sides</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive">Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart</a> </p></li></ul><p><strong>Meet Lamar and Tom</strong></p><p>Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. </p><p><strong>Want to watch us do the podcast? </strong>Visit the<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR4v8yaVTBZ1JDiDknghCsicISmXqKPcu"><u> Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel </u></a>at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions</u></a>. </p><p><strong>Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? </strong></p><p>Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at <a href="mailto:lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com"><u>lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com</u></a> and <a href="mailto:tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com"><u>tom3rdSpace@gmail.com</u></a>.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p>Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus</p><p>Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI</p><p>Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. </p><p>Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: <a href="mailto:lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com"><u>lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com</u></a> and <a href="https://www.rothimages.com/"><u>https://www.rothimages.com/</u></a></p><p><strong>Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom</strong> is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: <a href="mailto:hello@klaushausllc.com"><u>hello@klaushausllc.com</u></a>. </p><p>No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.</p><p>Recorded using <a href="http://riverside.fm"><u>Riverside.fm</u></a> from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, July 7, 2026.</p>
June 23, 2026
S4E13 - Happy 250th Birthday, USA!?!?
<p><strong>July 4, 2026 is the 250th Birthday of the United States of America.</strong> How are you planning to acknowledge this experiment in democracy that has lasted a quarter of a millennium? </p><p>In this Table Talk podcast Lamar and Tom talk about the 250th Birthday of the United States of America. To be honest, neither of these guys are too excited about it but they don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade. Tune in to learn more and why they feel as they do. </p><p><strong>Learn More</strong></p><p>The history of the United States of America is a complicated one. There is much to be proud of at our 250th birthday as a country. But, there are some things in our history that should prevent us from “getting on our high horse.”</p><p>Here are a couple of resources that give us a fair and loving look at ourselves. They could be a good way to acknowledge our 250th. </p><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-american-revolution" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American Revolution</a>, A Ken Burns documentary now playing on your local PBS station. </p><p><a href="https://plus.thegreatcourses.com/the-skeptics-guide-to-american-history" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Skeptics Guide to American History</a>, is a course you can purchase from The Great Courses. It is well worth the money ($49.99 from the Great Courses Plus or $29.00 from <a href="http://thegreatcourses.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thegreatcourses.com</a>. In this course you get some of the “back stories” of some of the most important events in American history. </p><p><strong>A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness</strong></p><p>Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a <a href="https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Forms Survey</a> at this link:<a href="https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5</a></p><p>There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:</p><ul><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?</strong></p></li></ul><p>What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.</p><p>Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.</p><p><strong>How We Check Ourselves</strong></p><p>Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.snopes.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snopes</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="http://factcheck.org" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FactCheck.org</a> </p></li></ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://www.politifact.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Politifact</a> </li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RealClearPolitics</a></li></ul></li><ul><li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reuters FactCheck</a> </li></ul><p>Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Media Bias/Fact Check</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Sides</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart</a> </p></li></ul><p><strong>Meet Lamar and Tom</strong></p><p>Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. </p><p><strong>Want to watch us do the podcast? </strong>Visit the<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR4v8yaVTBZ1JDiDknghCsicISmXqKPcu" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel </a>at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions</a>. </p><p><strong>Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? </strong></p><p>Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at <a href="mailto:lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com</a> and <a href="mailto:tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tom3rdSpace@gmail.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p>Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus</p><p>Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI</p><p>Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. </p><p>Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: <a href="mailto:lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com</a> and <a href="https://www.rothimages.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rothimages.com/</a></p><p><strong>Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom</strong> is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: <a href="mailto:hello@klaushausllc.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hello@klaushausllc.com</a>. </p><p>No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.</p><p>Recorded using <a href="http://riverside.fm" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Riverside.fm</a> - <a href="http://riverside.fm/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://riverside.fm/</a> - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, June 23, 2026.</p>
June 10, 2026
S4E12 A Conversation with The Iowa Investigator
<p>The Iowa Investigator tells 3-minute stories about his home state of Iowa. He has at least 85 thousand followers on TikTok and 31 thousand followers on Facebook and Instagram. Including us. Today we meet The Iowa Investigator. </p><p>The Iowa Investigator is J.T. Vonderhaar, an Iowa native who decided to give TikTok a spin only a few years ago while still working as a banker. He focused on interesting stories and facts from small town Iowa (towns less than 1,400 people at first). He challenged his viewer to share and spread the word about his stories if they wanted to hear more. They did. Today J.T. travels the state as The Iowa Investigator visiting towns (both small and large) and focuses on uncovering some of the most interesting stories Iowans, and others, have never heard. </p><p>J.T. is a graduate of Coe College in Cedar Rapids, Iowa where he majored in business administration and minored in history. He is a former basketball player who has also been an assistant and head coach for high school teams in Eastern Iowa. For more than 10 years, J.T.’s career was in banking. When The Iowa Investigator became one of the fastest growing TikTok-ers in the state, he left his full-time position to follow his passion to learn more about the forgotten and lesser known stories about his home state. </p><p><strong>Learn More</strong></p><p>To learn more about The Iowa Investigator and his stories, you need to visit his Facebook, Instagram, or TikTok pages. The following are links to his stories on Facebook. They are but a sampling of the more than 600 videos he has produced.</p><p>The Iowa Investigator discusses:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1H37wxjUMw/"><u>Jack Trice</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1H37wxjUMw/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1H37wxjUMw/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18GpNceQma/"><u>The Sweet 16 Capital of the World</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18GpNceQma/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18GpNceQma/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BC6pGYYbs/"><u>Iowa and the Underground Railroad</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BC6pGYYbs/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BC6pGYYbs/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EJx3avi9h/"><u>Iowa's Name</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EJx3avi9h/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EJx3avi9h/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DqtyzkTWS/"><u>Lexington of the North</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DqtyzkTWS/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DqtyzkTWS/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CJbVmqpSh/"><u>Nikita Khruschev's Visit to Iowa</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CJbVmqpSh/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CJbVmqpSh/</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CEQ4BFQQp/"><u>The Underfunding of Iowa Schools</u></a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CEQ4BFQQp/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CEQ4BFQQp/</u></a></p><p><strong>A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness</strong></p><p>Kindness seems out of vogue right now. But we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there are a lot of people in our world who are choosing kindness even in the face of cruelty.</p><p>Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a <a href="https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5"><u>Google Forms Survey</u></a> at this link:<a href="https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5"> <u>https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5</u></a></p><p>There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:</p><ul><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?</strong></p></li></ul><p>What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.</p><p>Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.</p><p><strong>Want to watch us do the podcast? </strong>Visit the<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR4v8yaVTBZ1JDiDknghCsicISmXqKPcu"><u> Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel </u></a>at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions</u></a>. </p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p>Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus</p><p>Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI</p><p>Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. </p><p>Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: <a href="mailto:lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com"><u>lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com</u></a> and <a href="https://www.rothimages.com/"><u>https://www.rothimages.com/</u></a></p><p><strong>Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom</strong> is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: <a href="mailto:hello@klaushausllc.com"><u>hello@klaushausllc.com</u></a>. </p><p>No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.</p><p>Recorded using <a href="http://riverside.fm"><u>Riverside.fm</u></a> - <a href="http://riverside.fm/"><u>http://riverside.fm/</u></a> - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, June 9, 2026.</p>
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