A podcast for thoughtful Christians seeking timeless wisdom in the words of Scripture and the Church Fathers. Hosts Myron Steeves and Martin Isreb offer calm, reverent conversation on classical theology, philosophy, and Christian living.
"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding."
—Proverbs 4:7
Visit www.gettingwisdom.org for show notes & reference guides.
Myron and Martin reflect on why our emotions should follow faith rather than drive it, and discuss civility rules on keeping confidences, avoiding vulgar speech, and not interrupting. They read Aquinas on the work of the third day of creation, Calvin on angels and devils, and the first chapter of Dallas Willard's Hearing God.
"See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant… worship God." —Revelation 22:9 (KJV)
03:09 Opening Reflections: Emotions are an output 13:57 Rules of Civility: Discretion 26:50 Roadside Attractions: Catalina Island 30:15 Summa Theologica (Prima Pars, Q69) 38:33 Institutes (1.14) 51:47 Hearing God (Ch. 1)
25 Jun 2026
Grave Among Grave Men
Myron and Martin reflect on why the Christian life is not necessarily materially easier than any other life and discuss a civility rule about matching one’s tone to the occasion. They read Aquinas on corporeal creation and Calvin on the order of the Trinity.
“We must not suppose that this corporeal matter serves the angels at their nod, but rather that it obeys God’s.”
—St. Augustine, cited in Summa Theologica, Prima Pars, Q65
07:45 Opening Reflections: Not materially better
26:24 Roadside Attractions: Chrysler Building
44:31 Rules of Civility: Tone
54:41 Summa Theologica (Prima Pars, Q65)
1:01:25 Institutes (1.13)
12 May 2026
A Pleasant Countenance
Myron and Martin reflect on the Good Samaritan and the command to love God with heart, soul, strength, and mind. They discuss grand Dallas hotels, civility in countenance and conduct, and read Aquinas and Calvin on demons, pride, and eternal divinity of the Son.
“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind.”
—Luke 10:27
07:00 Opening Reflections: Loving God with your mind
28:40 Roadside Attractions: Hotels in Dallas, TX
39:49 Rules of Civility: Behavior around others
54:00 Summa Theologica (Prima Pars, Q63–64)
1:10:03 Institutes (1.12–1.13)
For a reference guide to the Rules of Civility and a complete index of the Calvin and Aquinas readings discussed on the podcast, visit www.gettingwisdompodcast.com.
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